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This is a good indicator that class wrestling is not really needed for the INDIVIDUAL portion of the state tournament. I still think the TEAM portion is a different story. Agreed.
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SIZE QUALIFIERS A- 7 2A- 10 3A= 17 4A- 12 5A- 10 My numbers for FW say that 2A qualified as many as 5A! So of the spots not taken by 3A, Single A took 44% and 5A took 56%. What a travesty!!
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Its hard for me to say big schools are at an advantage around the Ft Wayne area with the popularity of wrestling in small school communities like Adams County. South Side, Snider, Northrop, Homestead, and Northside are are 5A and got a total of 2 kids through. South Adams is 1A. Because of some very hard work and community involvement they have 3 going down to state. I don't know of any big Fort Wayne schools sending this many down mainly because wrestling is not as popular there.
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I think he has brought good attention to Indiana wrestling especially with his article in ESPN so I am pulling for him
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That is why they should have had Purdue Engineers design it, they know what they are doing That is such a non-truth if you have ever driven around the campus. ;D Haha hard to argue with that
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That is why they should have had Purdue Engineers design it, they know what they are doing
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Wow, I read that article and its a shame. I cringed reading that, I am rooting for him to be able to pull it out next week
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Our youth wrestling USAW program has very good numbers. We have numbers that are comparable to those of many states that would be considered better wrestling states. I don't have the numbers, but recall looking at the participation numbers and being very surprised at how high we rank. That is surprising
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Just wondering what has happened this year, is he 100% healthy or just some really good competition
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To move up on the list and become a better state we need to expand youth wrestling and work as hard and smart as we can
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Your forgetting that the large schools have kids on JV that don't get to wrestle so don't act like the big schools have this magical advantage. For everyone who makes it to state, their back up doesn't so small schools have the advantage that everyone gets to wrestle. I loved going to a small school
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I am not sure if your aim is off or you just can't shoot. What you are saying is if "your" kids are not going to state and winning medals then the time they spend is not worth it. Nothing could be further from the truth. Nothing personal but I am glad you are not coaching my son with comments like this. High school sports, but especially wrestling is about teaching the value of hard work and dedication, growing as a person, handling your self in success as well as defeat. It is about getting better, setting "obtainable" goals and working toward those goals. Sucess lies in the journey, not the outcome. I can say this because my son had some goals in his wrestling career. He never reached all those goals but has he looks back wrestling made him a better person, it made him see what he could accomplish if he was dedicated and put in some self sacrifice. Like I said he never reached all of thos goals but wrestling helped him grow and mature and that my friend is something worth while. So you should never take the approach like your statement above. Well said, you learn how hard you have to work for something you want that bad. When your applying for medical school or vet school there are only so many spots no matter what excuse you have. Thats life
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How many did the small school ACAC get through today? I Think it was 9
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Wow, im surprised Tyler Baker is out, Qualified as a freshman and i thought he might go for a title by senior year
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Wow, the ACAC has gotten 9 through to state
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I think the reason we are the 10th - 15th state in the nation for wrestling is because there are 9-14 other states with more history and infrastructure set up to train wrestllers from an early age, not because they have classes.
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Wow, so a 4 did upset a 1 at 215. Anthony Fodrea-Winchester beat Austin Phillips-Elkhart Central
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They are probably just as proud as whoever will get 3rd at 171 at state this year. So is their school and community not going to celebrate their state championships? Is the principal going to say to them... we aren't going to put a picture of you in the hallway because you aren't the "true" state champion, we know Phillips would mop the mat with you? Do you think the newspaper article will say "Joe Schmoe Non-True State Champion?" Do you think he will get a ring that says "untrue State Champion" on it? At least in my school, you will get your picture up for the hall of fame if you get 3rd because it is quite the accomplishment
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So I just figured Id look at IUs wrestling roster to see if you have to place at state to wrestle at college, even Big Ten. Christopher Tanner- 2nd at Sectionals Wesley Fike- Semi State Qualifier Seth Parker- State Qualifier For Purdue George Petrov- Semi State Qualifier Im sure there are more cases like this, but looks like you can still make it to college
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Those are all DIII(small school) guys. I know they are the best by there performances in offseason tournaments and tournaments like the Ironman where the best of the best meet. Other guys I know are the best, David Taylor, Collin Palmer, etc. Do you think the other 171lbs champions are ashamed of their medals because Chris Phillips would probably beat them? They are probably just as proud as whoever will get 3rd at 171 at state this year.
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Those three would celebrate their state titles the same way David Taylor, the Stiebers, etc do in Ohio. Or how other class state champions and placers celebrate, there would be no difference. The kids will go out and try to achieve the highest goal possible during the season. Who is the best 189 lb wrestler in Ohio? I cant tell but i can tell you the top 3... maybe unless the 2nd place in one division is better than the champ in another.. Im confused
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My high school had around 600 and I loved the small school atmosphere. There were some summer practices I'd get one on one intstruction with the head coach for the whole practice. While were at it, they should save more room in college for small school kids because having smaller classrooms and knowing your teachers better is a hinderance. Therefore, they need to save 50% of enrollment spots for the smallest 25% of students.
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So an increased interest in the state finals is not good for the sport? Increased interest from schools of ALL sizes is not good for the sport? I guess we will let the big schools dominate and just watch as the sport dies at the small school level. I'm just saying I'm not sure its an increased interest in the sport. It sounds like its just a transfer of interested from Semi State to State. That data doesn't prove to me there are new fans when it may just be that your combining them into one.
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Sometimes a guideline is the best or only way to judge a state's strength. What do you want to do, bring every kid from every state together to determine the real state rankings? I think that Fargo is the best way to compare states that we will ever have. No we don't send all of our best, but I would think we send close to an equal percentage of our best that other states do. It will not correlate perfectly but it is a good measuring stick.
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Maybe the reason the attendance is up for the finals is because its almost the equivalent of combining Semi State and State. Would we still keep the Semi States? The quality of matches will be down at state and I wouldn't be as interested in first round matches.