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I was wondering how others perceive programs, right or wrong perceptions ,D1 specifically, around the country. Can’t be your favorite because you are to familiar, and you know the reality. Iowa for example, I think they are the team that grinds every day in the room structured to the hilt , and has fun only because the boss says they are. And maybe everyone doesn’t necessarily get along with each other. Arizona State, they seem to be just a man short of breaking into the top two spots in the country ,kind of like Missouri was a few years ago, but seems to be attractive for transfers and seem to have a more loose room. Ohio seems similar in that they’re always going to make a run for the top one or two spots ,next year. But has a softer practice room. P-State seems to have established an aura of being less structured ,and more of a, every man at his own pace, practice room. North Carolina, they are quietly building respect , with their success, as a program , not knowing much about how they go about their business in the room . Also I know these perceptions can and do effect recruiting. But what extent?
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Congratulations ,hard fought championship
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University of Michigan - 2022-23
Disco replied to nhs67's topic in College and International Wrestling
Thanks Very interesting.I would like to know ,and I’m sure others here would also ,this info for the two BIG schools in Indiana. The schools don’t share any information like this. -
University of Michigan - 2022-23
Disco replied to nhs67's topic in College and International Wrestling
Pretty in-depth analysis, thanks. Michigan has been on a roll the last few years . Seems you have an interest in the Michigan team ,with some inside connections. -
Iu does wrestle tough. The One thing that stands out compared to the last few years in the Goldman era. And it shows in the attendance stats. The state of Indiana embraces good wrestling.
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Cool, we need to get the word out. For the rest of the posters on the mat.
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Amen
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They will be staying Dll
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It makes sense. I mean a city the size of Indianapolis needs a D1 outlet. This helps bring high profile wrestling talent to a very populous area that is already knowledgeable. Higher exposure for popular Indiana sport.
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This guy comes from a generational wrestling family. His accomplishments aside. He can help get the students to the next level.
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Probably be some sort of realignment with similar size schools in the same situation.
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Voting on this proposal I hear
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I do to, think that is a stretch. If this becomes a reality then he really has a shot at attracting an elite to the program. Hawkeye is a little wishful as I am. But the ball is in Angels hands.
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AA’s aside, a few question marks ,but there will be several qualifiers.
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Very true. And I think that’s the reason Fred Glass , with the blessing of President McRobbie chose to make a change. Duane was not attracting in state elite .and the wrestlers they did have were at half throttle, it seemed ,and didn’t care. In contrast, Angels guys hit it hard every match and this shows in the bleachers as compared to Goldmans fan base. Not saying Angel is the answer but giving him the reins is and was better than what we had. Now how long does the administration give this coach to keep the trajectory in an upwardly movement? I see a leveling off. Thus my reason for starting the thread. It’s not that Angel can’t coach necessarily ,now it seems getting a handle on recruiting and maybe assembling and keeping assistants for consistency ,is the things he needs to improve on.
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Great program for our Indiana boys.
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That’s called talent quotient. It hasn’t risen. There in lies the problem.
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You have some good talking points here.sounds like He did not have much recruiting experience. While I’m in agreement, that the potential is there for a repeat of the past coaching dumpster fire, I don’t think the AD will let it get to that point. And I will say to the new coaching staffs credit, is the boys they have recruited really get after it. Very enjoyable to watch them wrestle. 180 degree difference from Goldmans last several years squads.
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First, I am amazed that with Angel as a coach and ,at one time , Tsirtsis as a coach , they didn’t land that top 10 or so light weight over those years. Second, it seems that maybe unproven coaching experience is a deterrent for recruits?
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While I’m not as informed on the Boilermakers as some of you on this site, I get the feeling this year is a break out season for The squad. It is was good showing at last year’s Nationals for qualifying.I’m thinking it will get better next year. The coaches have done a really good job. Hopefully they break through and land an elite Indiana guy. It only takes one to get the ball rolling.
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While we all like the dual team action ,it really makes for team pride and closeness for recruiting and building and developing a deep room.But at the end of the day what really is important is your qualifiers for NCAA. Numbers is important for recruiting. Probably more than how deep they go, but both important for getting the “ELITE “ to give the program a sniff.
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So back on topic, I’m not sure two or three transfer ins will help the Hoosiers this year.
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Just saying Cael gave Andrew a shot , it didn’t work. I know Carl is the epitome of accountability and culture etc. It happens a lot with lower profile wrestlers and will happen with Ferrari. He will get another chance. Some work and some don’t. I don’t think Indiana fans have to worry about If Ferrari would try to enroll.
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Guys like Andrew Long who was welcomed to Pennsylvania State by Sanderson from Iowa state , is an example.
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Fair assessment here. And I agree. The status quo isn’t getting results to make a challenge to the middle of the BIG.
