robref

I worked the New Castle Semi-State.....Most of the coaches had good questions, which I probably changed 3 or 4 of my calls after consulting my assistant. We cant always see everything, so I love to have the extra set of eyes. Some officials dont want it unfortunately .

What about treating team state, if it even exists next year, the same way as the NCAA individual tourney. In addition to the regional qualifiers have wild cards based on rankings. Let Reitz, Castle, Mishawaka, New Castle, Yorktown, or any other of the contenders have a shot. Who's to say the finals might not be Castle vs MD or Mishawaka vs Penn. I guess that's assuming we care about more than just #1. My bad.

I'd go for that! Make it a 2 Day Event. It would probably make a ton of money as well.

then the official would get yelled at   "dont coach my wrestler"

it is easy to call from the bleachers

get your license and a whistle and get after it!!!!!!!

Amen, Brother....Amen! That would stop most of the griping about the officiating. They make the whole uniform for officials in all sizes, but having the balls to actually do it.....well they are harder to come by !!!!! :

Great, I just bought a new draw kit with all the old weights on them.......I guess I can put it with the gray officiating shirts they told us 2 yrs ago to get. Just my luck!  ???

Match 1: Roncalli vs. Perry Meridian.

Match 2: Penn vs. Bellmont.

Match 3: Evansville Mater Dei vs. Crown Point.

Match 4: Delphi vs. Lawrence North.

 

After watching the individual state finals and looking at the teams what are your picks for the champion of this tournament.  I am going to pick EMD over Perry Meridian for the title.  What is everyone else's picks?

I agree here. I think PM walks to the Finals. MD beats CP by a handful and wins in finals by 10 or so. ;D :-*

I especially don't like when they call it with under 15 seconds for the first time knowing that they are not going to call it again. I remember one match when the top wrestler was in the same position for 1:45 seconds of the third period and got called for stalling with 13 seconds left.

so your answer is just not call it if we dont feel it happens with under 20 seconds left? I try not to even watch the clock when officiating. I dont even like to know who the kids are or their records. It makes it much easier to stay focused on just reffing the match.

Crown Point has been so dominating this year that they haven't needed a certain match to put them over the top , Roach and Tsirtsis are like a cat playing with a mouse once they have caught it they like to play with it for awhile , if the Coach needs a pin from one of these guys he'll get it , I guarantee EMD have never seen any wrestlers  like these two this year .

I think the Welch family (Castle) might disagree.......they've seen top notch competition all year long. 8)

While I dont agree with some of the calls made (not saying I am right just my judgment was different), I will give the officals a pat on the back for being able to take the criticism well. I witnessed  a few outbursts by coaches that could have resulted in them being ejected. I know an athlete being ejected must miss next game but do coaches also?? If so there would be a few coaches from New Castle SS missing this weeks State if the officials hadn't been thick skinned. So I do applaud them for that!

In our pre-tourney meeting with the coaches (at New Castle SS), we know Semi-State is a very competative tourney, but try to keep your emotions to a normal level when discussing anything at the table with the officials. We usually will be equally as professional. It usually goes in one ear and out the other...lol so we give them the benefit of the doubt an usually give a warning. This usually stops, or at least calms the kaos a bit.

well if thats the case he screwed both Masengale and Brown a point which wouldn't make a difference since it would be still tied. And I doubt the ref wanted to help the big schools win.

of course that is our main agenda.....to help the big schools win......right. When we've got a match that competative, the school they're wrestling for is the complete LAST thing on our minds.

People shouldn't worry so much about what other people do. MYOB..

I'd offer the same suggestion to you. Just clap and enjoy the show next time. This is an open forum that you chose to post very negative view towards something you may not know much about. These ref's have worked very hard to get where they are. Dont get me wrong, I understand that you payed to get in and part of being an official is getting yelled at, but it would've been just as easy for a ref to post how stupid some of the crowd was. Why bother.

I thought the attendance at New Castle was up this year.  The "largest and finest fieldhouse in the world" seemed pretty full - enough room to be comfortable but didn't look like there was a lot of space left in the stands.  It could of been because there were 4 rounds of very competitive matches.

From the floor looking up, it looked very full in the 1st 2 rounds, then there were fewer people as the day went on. My experience in Evansville is usually just the opposite, no one is there for the 1st 2 rounds, but it fills up for the Finals.

Worse group of officials I've EVER seen at a SS meet!  Most of them were HORRIBLE!

so, we can expect you to get ceritified and save the world one match at a time next year...right. Might be time for you to throw on the stripes and taste just a bit. 11 of the 12 officials are doing, or have done several State Finals. The most inexperience official has only been doing it for 10- years. Personally I dont think any of them owe apologies for anything. It was a very competitive Semi-State, all day long. I heard from several scorers & time keepers that the people that were being escorted out, were "several time" offenders. Seems like the pattern of "Bad Officiating" only happens when Your kid gets beat! 8)

I'm guessing they're finished with the National Anthem and calling captains to the center for the flip. ???