casualwrestlingfan

What would you change in aspects of high school wrestling in the state? I'd make a few changes. I'd bring back the old team state tournament. I'd change the format though and make it dual meet for sectionals instead individual results determining sectional champions who then had duals throughout. I'd also incorporate the coaches Class tournament. I'd also expand it in to sectional, regional, and maybe semi state or just put it to state from regional. I'd also put wrestle backs in all portions of the individual tournament including state. Still have only top 8 place. I know the schedule probably wouldn't allow for this.

Sorry the thread should be "in control of" not controlling.

I agree. The goal is to be the best in your weight when you step on the mat that day. Of course when you split it into two classes that can't happen.

That's why I think we should have both and not just one or the other. With class we get more involved and interested in the sport. With our current we get the best of the best. However many think my idea is dumb.

I like the idea of scoring points from sectionals to state for individual team points champion team. We have the class duals decided (just wish it was tweaked). Somehow we should figure a formula to combine dual results with individual tournament results and crown a champion.

The problem is there are pros and cons each way. Maybe the ihsaa should hire an outside consulting firm to examine and collect data from other states to truely weigh out the pros and cons and figure out what would be best for the kids wrestling... Not for their pocket books

That would be great but probably not realistic, but hey I post non realistic ideas all the time. The Ihsaa probably doesn't even care that wrestling exists unless it severely damaged their pocketbook.

Bog just asking if you like the coaches team state dual we have now or the old format of the sectional champions from individual results wrestling in duals for regional and state. That's how I'm gauging this proposal for individual tournament.

It seems everyone wants one or the other. I'm looking for middle ground.

We already have tournaments like the Al Smith Classic, so why not use tournaments like those throughout out the state as class tournaments by tweaking them? I'm just saying we don't have to change our format but just add to it.

No I wrestled during high school but not as long as others have, nor was I very talented. However it was about proving to myself I could learn and compete against those who had.

Sorry my first post didn't seem to go through.

I think all wrestlers would agree that their goal is to be the best that day and to become better than they were. I don't believe format matters whether it is class or our current or both. Medals and ribbons are just for show.

I think all wrestlers would agree that the medals and ribbons are just for show. I bet most if not all would say that being the best wrestler for the day they compete is their goal. Whether that be a class tournament or our current or both.

Why not have class individual tournaments to better seed the wrestlers for our current format. Keep the small schools happy by letting their wrestlers achieve something they feel is important while giving the large schools more practice and better match ups to prepare for our current format.

I guess I just don't get why we can't have both. We could put in a class individual tournament during the season and have our current individual tournament as it is now. We just need to get the schedule figured out.

So your opinion is that when a Mishawaka freshman and a Triton freshman step on the mat the first day of practice freshman year, each has an equal likelihood of earning a medal at state before the four year timer is up?  Is that an accurate assessment?

I'm saying that an individual has control of their own destiny in those four years by hard work and determination. The Mishawaka kid may have less obstacles than the Triton kid in obtaining that medal, but if that Triton kid wants it bad enough he will earn it.

Galagore,when it comes to individual performance school size has little to do in my opinion. However when it comes to determining a team champ that way I think it is a disadvantage for small schools. Only sport where we never have a true champion as dual match ups and strategies are different than individual results gaining team points.

While madtown, Y2C, and Karl stall on this topic, no offense,anybody have an idea if my proposed idea would work?

I would like to see both formats. I doubt this would be possible though. I love the class team duals but like to see everyone with a shot. Have class individual tournament during the regular season and then all classes individual tournament at the end. Almost like it being tournament of champions. Love to see all class team duals tournament back also. In essence we could have a team being a champion four times. Class individual points, class team dual, all class team dual, and all class individual points team champions.

How about Adams County wrestling? Adams Central wins it's 2nd class A title giving them 2 out of 3 titles with a runner up. Bellmont finishing second in their first appearance. South Adams has quality wrestlers who could and should make it to state and maybe bring home a title. For a small county in the middle of nowhere, Adams County is producing quality wrestling.