MattM

I think that coach vs coach royal rumble match talked about during conference is still going on to finalize a few of the seeds.  Last I head someone threw a steel chair into the ring.

 

In a drastic turn of events the Jeff and Floyd coaches have temporarily teamed up to take on T. Howard "Eye of the Tiger" Jones and "the other" Mr. (give no help at conference) Cooper. I heard the Jennings County Sectional is in it's third day of seeding and only up to the 171 class. Someone tell T. Howard to let it go! The studs in that weight class reside in the Jeff Sectional! 

Actually , once we solved the maze of "round and round" discusion for seeding the middle of 145 the rest of JC's seeding meeting went smoothly.

So 30 minutes south is just the same as here.  AD advised us to not have it today (we already canceled right before) and said the same about tomorrow.  If the weather isn't awful in by the afternoon we may try to practice at 4 with the small group that can make it.  Otherwise it looks like Thursday and Friday are mostly clear and we will just have to make up for lost time.

I don't think the 1 vs 4 match will yield many change to the bracket, but at least it does give the #1 guy a decent match instead of starting out stale in the ticket round.  To me it seems a little odd that only two sectionals feed into a regional and then 4 of them move on to semi- state.    But then 4 regionals move into semi-state and 4 semi-states feed into state.  I can see one day someone making a move to consolidate the tournament series in some way to eliminate one step in the series all together.  If Y2 gets his class wrestling revolution completed (don't change thread subjects) I can see this consolidation easily occuring.    

Having a Grand Marshall would be a great addtion to the Parade of Champions.  We have had plenty of historic wrestlers and coaches come through this state and it would be wonderful to honor at least one if not a few of them each year.

On the other note it would be nice to see someone actually seed out the top 4 in state to try and ensure the finals don't actually happen in the semi-finals.  But I think it is just as great to see all the drama play out through the day including the upsets that would occur if they seeded out the top 4 or not.

Everyone has a first round match.  1 vs 4  and 2 vs 3.  The draw will come out later to find out what regional a kid will face.

Indeed.  Bonus points (both gaining and not giving many up), how you preform if you end up in the consolation bracket, and even wrestling hard in the 5th and 6th place match always play a huge factor.  The coach that can get his team to truely understand the importants of all of these factors has a better chance of moving higher than their original placement position.  Every year you see at least one team suprises in the end from those factors.

I think that coach vs coach royal rumble match talked about during conference is still going on to finalize a few of the seeds.  Last I head someone threw a steel chair into the ring.

Yes that is the tournament point breakdown.  I'd would have loved to use it to determine team rankings based on seeding but it doesn't work out perfectly since we don't know everyones bonus or even advancment points until it plays out.

As I said I guess we will find out Saturday how it actually plays out.

OK I did the team ranking based on the seeds using this formula. 

7pts=1st    6pts=2nd    5pts=3rd    4pts=4th    3pts=5th    2pts=6th    1pt=having a wrestling not seeded (since they could score points)     0pts=forfeit (can't score points) 

If anyone has a better formula be my guest to put up your own team ranking based on seeds but this is the best I could come up with.

Obviously this is not based on actual tournament points awarded but until bonus points and advancement point are earned its impossible to predict who would get them

Team Rankings

1. Columbus North        70pts

2. Jennings Country    63 pts

3. Madison                       54 pts

4. Columbus East           51pts

5. Scottsburg                   41pts

6. Brown County            37pts

7./8. Seymour                29pts

7./8. Southwestern       29pts

9.  Bedford                        25pts

While this should be a ballpark idea on what could happen, lets see what ends up occuring after Saturday.

When I get a few minutes I'll work of a team rankings based on seeds, but you know those always turn out perfect. 

I always wonder how grade issues, injury, wrestlers moving weights for sectionals, and skin issues play in the FF stats during sectional time.  The stats are based on just the sectional roster not a regular season meet roster.  I would say for some teams may have had less FFs at some point during the year but because of one factor or another now have one or two more holes.  It wouldn't throw off the stats a lot but it may be slightly more realistic to the numbers we are trying to figure out. 

That was the best Greco throw done in a folkstyle match maybe.

Looks like college boys from Indiana have a few videos of almost takedowns on flow. 

How about this one where Alex pulls himself out of this takedown situation.  Thats how you make a whizzer work for you.

http://www.flowrestling.org/videos/speaker/2350-alex-tsirtsis

Actually you stole the rookies thunder because that was a true story, I think that is a cool movie idea though, wahoo to you

Technically his thunder came after my movie ideas though it was a different sport.  I came up with that movie idea after watching Vision Quest in high school during the mid-1990's.  The guy Quad portrayed didn't accomplish his moment until the very end of the 1990's.   It's still an inspirational story and a great feel good movie none the less.  I still wouldn't mind seeing a movie like my idea made though since it would be a step up from most wrestling movies the mainstream public may have seen before.

Vision Quest is always a classic, but aside from an underdog striving to beat the stud it didn't have a lot.  The rest of the story wasn't that great which is probably why it doesn't get much attention from the none wrestling world.  

Reversal took on some darker wrestling issues, which may or may not have been that great for highlight what the sport really was.  It did have some decent parts, but over all the rest of the story just doesn't do much for the none wrestling view.

One More Shot I never got around to watching, but the word I have got is that it was another underdeveloped wrestling movie. 

If people don't get the studio backing and quality writers on the movie I don't think any wrestling related movie will end up being as good as it could have been.  You don't have to have the biggest star names to get a wrestling movie to get the mainstream publics attention.  However, you will need to hav ea film crew, a director willing to understand wrestling, and a well written human drama story with wrestling being the avenue that story is delivered through.

I guess if someone wanted a little more mainstream viewer to also take interest they would have to find some quality writers that can tell a great human struggle story and package it around that human being connected with wrestling.   Just telling a wrestling story in general wont do much for the mainstream viewer .  On the same wavelenght just telling a human stuggle with just bits of wrestling isn't enough either since you could plug any sport into that an make it feel the same (ie most sports movie they try to make).  A person would have to find the perfect mix of the human drama story and weave the aspects of wrestling that make it unique to all other sports. 

This could also be done in a documentary style film instead if thats someone goal.  It just takes finding the right kid or program and knowing how to edit all the hours of footage into a great human stuggle story.

I thought of a decent wrestling film while in school, but then the movie The Rookie (Dennis Quad) took the basic idea of it.  A former stud wrestlers on track to be an Olympic hopeful gets hurt in college and ends his career.  He finishes out school and turns into a teacher and coach for a rough local high school with a struggleing program.  He is able to mentor his team that had no direction and focus.  They stay out of trouble and on the right track on their way to several notworthy wins.  He ends up getting back into wrestling shape  in his mid-30's after practicing with his state bound high school stud which no one else in the room can even hang with.  Somehow he gets talked back into competing in a regional competition and starts lightly training with some former teammates and friends.  He wins the competition which is a qualifier for the Olympic trials.  He then kicks up the training more as the school, town, and former college team gets behind him.  The the underdog climbs his way through the competition edging out wins over the competition.  He re-injurys himself on one match but guts out the match and wins.  With a laging injury he eventually faces either an old college rival whose already won an Olympic medal or some famous young stud who suppose to be the choosen one for the Olympics.  He may or may not win the match in the end.  If he lost he would leave the shoes in the middle of the match and get a huge ovation from the crowd who knows the entire story.   

Sounded like a good idea until The Rookie "stole my thunder.

Y2, We can always throw Nick in as the famous young stud he faces at the end of the movie.

Monday night at Jennings County.

The conference ability to state finals qualifiers is a somewhat hard one to measure both for team and individuals.  Some conferences have almost every team also competing in the same sectional.  Other conferences have team spread out between 3, 4, 5 or even more sectionals and different regionals after that.  Different variables just play out on who all gets out of the sectional thru state as a team or individual.  It's just be come a hard thing to compare when judging conference strength to state tournament qualifying. 

With that being said it is still very inpressive to have a least one wrestlers from every school in your conference make it all the way to state.  Or in the same respect if more than one team from a conference does far in the team portion of the event.  That does show a decent amount of individual and team talent in that group of schools.

Just trying to point out the lack of respect they seem to be getting across the state.  Hey any new word on the big shoe?  Team pic next week.

 

Thanks

True,  North does need to get some credit for what they have done the last few years. 

Get ahold of Curt on that shoe thing.  I was told it would be in your hands at Sectionals.

More than likely they would have to go through New Pal a second time at team regional to get there.  A 1 point match could easily be changed the next time especially with a few spots in the line up that New Pal will have ironed out by then.   Columbus North is a solid team and this win should help to give them a little more of the recognition.  One things for sure, if they do meet back up it should be a another great battle of two quality programs.

To quote Bobby Bouche's Mom this new features is "the devil."

Oh this new features about [you] could never ever be used for evil purposes. 

All of the above must be true cause it has my (or do I mean your) name on it.

When I think of famous duo's I think of the best one-two punch in a teams line up.   In other words two weight classes back to back  (or at the most one weight class seperation) where you are alsmost guaranteed big results.  These guy probably wrestle with each other in practice a lot and push each other to be the best.   If both wrestlers make it to state I would say that constitutes as a great wrestling duo.   In their 4 year of high school I would say Alex T and Andre H are about the best example you can find of this.

While several people have listed some great teammates and even teams it does seems like we've went way past the true "duo" part in at this point.

Brent and Pat are masters at the cradle... 

That did accounts for many of Brents pins at West Point.

Maybe not the top story but one we point out to those not suceeding in our program.  We had a guy who didn't win more than maybe a handful of matches in his entire middle school career.  He looked like a little pudge ball of a guy.  Just got another handful of wins between his freshman and sophomore year, varsity and JV combined.   Around .500 at best as a junior.  Then went on to a 40 win season and place in state as a senior.  Goes on to attend West Point and eventually starts on the varsity team.  He last year there he was tied for the second most wins and had the most pins on the team.

 

Who is that?

Brent Smith a 06-07 West Point graduate and currently serving our country overseas.  On a side note his brother Patrick is attending West Point currently.

Depends on the style of wrestling you pick,   We vary nationally in our state ranking in Folkstyle, Freestyle, or Greco from year to year.  Indiana seems to not get much respect as a top 10 state some year.  One reason is because we do not have most of our the top wrestlers attending national events and our results in those events are vary up and down each year.  The national opinion in many past years is that in general (all styles combined) Indiana is right in between top and average wrestling states (8th-15th).  However, as indiana wrestlers continue to preform well in national high school events and Indiana boys in college continue to shine the respect for Indiana wrestling is starting to increase.