Whoa, Whoa, Whoa... what exactly is the "NATIONAL CIRCUIT"? If you are talking about Tournament of Champions, Topeka, Tulsa, Liberty, etc. then your argument is terrible. After digging through some archives, I notice that Seth was not undefeated at the Schoolboy Duals, did not win Topeka, did not win Liberty, did not win Tulsa, did not win the Tournament of Champions, and MOST RECENTLY placed 6th at Cadet FOLKSTYLE State, in a weight class where he placed BEHIND Chris Mascaro who never even won ONE state title, let alone FOUR. Some placements at some youth national tournaments before 7th grade does not add up to 4 high school state titles. Ask Andrew Howe who won only 3 state titles, a Junior National Championship, went undefeated at the JUNIOR DUALS, etc., or LeRoy Vega who won just 2 state titles, but won a double title in Fargo and went on to be a 3x All American at Minnesota, or Michael Escobedo, who only won 2 state titles but won everything there was to win when he was a kid, or Andrae Hernandez who won just 2 state titles and won everything there was to win when he was a kid, or Eric McGill, who also won just 2 state titles and won youth national tournaments, or Eric Galka, who also won just 2 state titles and won youth national tournaments, or how about Danny Bedoy, who won everything there was to win when he was a kid, including a double title in the Cadets at Fargo, and guess how many state titles he won..... ZERO! These kids are among DA REGION's best ever and could not win 4 state titles. Seth Collier's name should not even be mentioned with these others, so what makes you think he woulda been a 4 timer? Last time I checked they don't just hand those out to everybody. If the kid is a nice kid and comes from a nice family, don't make everyone start hating him because of your ridiculous comments! :
