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I personally am not worried about the smaller tournaments. They are great. Fax/email weigh-ins are perfectly acceptable for them. Trying to run all those kids across the scales when they get there is simply unrealistic unless we want a 2 hour wait at any nominally sized local tournament. However, at the state and national level, I do think that on-site weigh-ins needs to take place for all involved. However, I am also a firm believer that the weigh-ins should take place on the morning of the event. Should the event last more than one day, which I believe USAW is working to stop, the weigh-in should take place each morning of the event. The night before weigh-ins helps the weight cutters in the higher age groups and hinders the light weight little kids (I have seen peewees and bantams that weigh up to a pound over at night and up to a pound under in the morning, and the 5 lb change in class is huge to a little 40 or 45 lb kid). I would love to see most of the weight cutting stopped except for obese kids that it can be done in a healthy way and I firmly believe that these night before weigh-ins at larger events have been kept only because local businesses like hotels and food joints are happy about the extra money and possibly make donations for the practice to remain.
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I don't mean to sound cynical, rather, I am just questioning as I am unfamiliar. If I were to take my son to a tournament that Saturday that has fax/email in weigh-ins, then ask the tournament director to sign off, would those fax/email weigh-ins count? If these are allowed, it really is no different than the local tournaments. If not, I am glad to know it and would like to know what all these competitors or their coaches/parents are really required to do to meet the criteria. What qualifies? Why can't these kids be at the weigh-ins for this tournament? Would they be there if there were no other possibilities? Would forcing everyone to meet the exact same criteria (weigh-in at the same place/same time) lower the tournament somehow? Could it possibly raise it?
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Thoughts about the Indiana Youth State Tournament
dinubus replied to Wagner's topic in Youth Archives
At youth levels (peewee, bantam, intermediate, novice, schoolboy) that seems absurd. Unless your next step is to limit the number of tournaments based on the number of possible competitors in that area. Records, even at the high school level, typically mean very little. If you are from a very tough team who wrestles all tough competition, you may have several losses to your name, yet you are very tough. On the other hand, on a weaker team in a weaker area, you may be undefeated, yet truely you are undeveloped. Records can only mean something to the coach that keeps them and uses the data to keep improving the overall team. -
Thoughts about the Indiana Youth State Tournament
dinubus replied to Wagner's topic in Youth Archives
I am from Michigan which now has everything messed up by MYWAY, but back when I was a kid, we had districts, regionals, and state. The problem you are referring to was fixed with the fact that you could choose whatever districts you wished to drive to and attend. That particular districts led to a specified region, then of course state. So, if you knew your area was quite strong, you could choose another district to attend. I'm not saying this is perfect either, but I would agree that the state brackets were fairer in the end than they are with these 64 man brackets. On the other hand, what could be cooler than to have a state bracket on your wall with 64 competitors listed. -
That is pretty shocking! I have to travel there to make weigh-ins the night before and pay for a hotel just like an "out-of-stater" would have to, I truly do not understand this ruling. I have already signed my boys up for this tournament this year, so we will be attending, but if the kid he wrestles is from out of state and looks quite big, there better be a route to challenge the weight. If not, this will be the only year my boys will go there. Way to expensive to have such probable negativity and the possibility of my son being hurt. I truly don't worry about regular tournaments and have only rarely seen cases where I thought they may be over. However, a "National" event should NOT have such a problem!
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Is there anywhere we can find the results of the tournament? Completed Brackets?
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Congratulations. Is there anywhere where we can see results posted or brackets posted?