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Only cadet?  I know several second year schoolboys from last year that are now freshman. 

I have not been around highschool since 98 was eliminated but I do know that there are plenty of kids to wrestle my smaller club kids that will not be able to gain the 15 -20 pounds needed to make 105 or whatever the larger-kid-type proponents think is too small to be of any value to a wrestling program

Because I don't know which ones are 8th graders as schoolboys.  Schoolboys include 6-8th graders so those weight classes will have some good numbers.  I expect 13-14 year old boys to weigh 90-100lbs, not 15-16year olds.

Folkstyle state

Cadet 84lbs had 10 kids

Cadet 91lbs had 16 kids

 

Freestyle state

Cadet 84lbs had 7 kids

Cadet 91lbs had 5 kids

 

Are you serious?

 

Where did you find that info?  I was trying to look up some old brackets and numbers.  Unfortunately, I was not having any success.

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Folkstyle state

Cadet 84lbs had 10 kids

Cadet 91lbs had 16 kids

Freestyle state

Cadet 84lbs had 7 kids

Cadet 91lbs had 5 kids

Are you serious?

Every two weeks.

So Jimtown football says "golly gee whiz we can't beat Penn every year, so we are glad we can win this tainted championship?"  Why do almost every other state have class wrestling then?  Are they just all sissies?

I believe there will be a coaches poll released this Wednesday, or at least that is what Darrick Snyder told me last week.

It was scoreless after the first period.

Schendel got an escape and takedown in the second after choosing down and in the third he got a 2 nearfall while riding him the whole period.  Final score 5-0.  Lots of good scrambles on their feet and it looked like both were tentative at the beginning as they felt eachother out.

Kids that weigh 114lbs cannot go 103lbs unless they work the system to get the body fat test to say they can go 103lbs.  A 114lb kid has to have over 15% body fat to make 103 in a legal manner.  Not many 114lb teenagers have that much body fat on them. 

But if that 103lber worked hard he could beat a few 285lbers, I'm sure.

I would say 106-108lbs for the first weight class.  Two main reasons:

1. The gap between 103 and 112 is too much.  Too many tweeners that say they can go 106-110 on the body fat tests.  right now if a kid weighs 110lbs naturally he has to have over 12% body fat to make 103lbs.  Back in my day when you didn't have the fat test, if you weighed 110lbs you were going 103 9 times out of 10.

2. The growth of kids and people in general reflect that 106-108 is a more natural weight for kids.

If you want to go that far, why not have a single weight class?  Is the 103lb state champion really the true state champion of wrestling? 

Why not adjust the weight to 105 but not more.  Also, these smaller kids work just as hard or harder than the rest.

Don't say that or all the people that love 103lbs will be stating that you are ELIMINATING the 103lb weight class.

I am guessing within two years there will be a change, just my educated guess.

so blue are you in favor of class football?

 

To me it is an Apples and Oranges comparison of sorts.  I only used the comparision to give some structure to the point of school size as it relates to participation.

 

To keep the point in perspective, wrestling is by it's very definition an individual sport first...and a team sport second.  If the individual steps on the mat and does what he has worked to do, then the team outcome will follow if all are working as hard as they can as individuals.   No one there to pick up the slack or lend a hand.  It's just the wrestler and that six minute monster he has to tame.

 

If I had to give and answer to your question, I would have to say Yes - for Football I am in favor of it...althought I think it needs a total overhaul in its implimentation.  But even as it stands, we see 3-A schools kicking the daylights out of 5-A schools year in and year out and 2-A schools who can play with the big schools on any given weekend.  It's more about the skill sets of the teams and what they bring to the table.   As I said, obviously have  a larger pool of talent available to a program greatly increases the odds, but every year we see the "exceptions".  

 

To sum this up...as weird as it sounds...do we have a "Class System" for High School Debate or Chess?   Or how about Swimming/Diving orTrack and Field?  I am guessing the answer is NO.  Why not?   Well that would be because of the following:

 

A.  These are individual based activities that focus more on the individual performance than that of the team.

B.  Not a huge source of revenue for the IHSAA or the Education System of Indiana.  

 

 

I know for academic teams there are classes for their state championships.

so blue are you in favor of class football?

It has ruined football and no one goes to the play-off games because we don't know who the "true" champion is.

It said he lost again this weekend on the results forum.

What teams are there? 

The IHSAA already allows that.  There are a couple football teams that play up a class.

Last year's teams were

Bluffton, Whitko, Mishawaka, Perry Meridian, Bloomington South, Evansville Memorial, Penn and Bellmont

I don't know about this year's line-up, but I presume its very similar if not the same.

What upperclassmen are at 103 this year?

Just saw the Tsirtsis highlight....wow was that close!

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I think it would be nice to have more room for subjects (messages) on the first page.  Topics get sent to the second page too quickly when new messages are created.    ???   Just a thought.

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