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I'm hoping he graduates early

Andrew Hiestand of Yorktown

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Now that the season is in full swing, please send your nominations for wrestler of the week to wrestleroftheweek@yahoo.com.  Please include the following information:

1.  Name

2.  School

3.  Record for the previous week including names of opponents

4.  Season record

5.  Scholastic or communty accoplishments

6.  If possible include a photo as we would like to have a face to go with our WOW each week.

JIm West- South Adams was named all-state

He was a state qualifier last year at heavyweight and is looking good so far this season.

We just complain about not having class wrestling at practice. 

Just for those interested in facts and data:

 

I have a spreadsheet of data listing every school. The mean for enrollment is 888. The median however is Benton Central at 640. There are some huge schools, but there are also a lot of tiny ones, mostly in southern Indiana.

 

Here are some schools which have been brought up:

Bellmont - 838 (small by mean, large by median)

Mater Dei - 561 (small either way)

 

At that point the multiplier would make Mater Dei a large school by median, but not by mean.

 

Don't get confused and think I'm arguing for or against classing, I'm reserving my judgement for now. I just want to bring some data rather than guesses.

 

...and let the fighting begin.

The IHSAA splits each division up equally, not by the median.  Also, many of the schools on your list do not have wrestling, so they would not be counted.  If you only use schools with wrestling you will see that where the split is, is closer to 730 students.

South Adams 34 Garrett 21

103- August Novy(G) dec LJ Moser 6-3

112- Kyle Lanning(G) mdec Shea Pyle 11-2

119- John Striker(SA) dec Austun McCray 7-1

125- Todd Batt(SA) pin Dan Fogt 5:37

130- Logan Lee(G) dec Gabe Sprunger 3-2 OT

135- Charlie Hirshy(SA) dec Brayden Moreau 8-4

140- TJ Burnfield(SA) dec Shea Novy 4-3

145- Josh Ehr(SA) dec Bryce Schendel 5-2

152- Brett Schendel(G) mdec Isaac Werst 13-3

160- Adam Hofstettler(SA) inj default Robbie Wigginton

171- Zac McCray(G) mdec Nick Taylor 14-3

189- Austin Gibson(G) dec Cody Conner 6-3

215- Drew Taylor(SA) pin Erich Zumbaugh 3:09

285- Jim West(SA) mdec Geoff Getts 8-0

The Tennessee version of the IHSAA uses a 1.8 enrollment multiplier for private schools that wish to compete on the same stage as public schools.

Illinois uses a 1.65 multiplier and Missouri uses 1.35.

So taking the 564 students at Mater Dei and adding the 1.35 multiplier, makes their enrollment 761 students, which would in essence bump them into big school status in the IHSAA.

In no way are they equal to Garrett?  

The number of students is the equal there.  The quality of students at Mater Dei is tremendously higher than Garrett's.

So you are saying if they are in a better situation than Garrett(parental and school involvement, etc.) then they are automatically a big school?  

I am saying they don't have the "fat" that a public school has because they do not have the special education students, the free/reduced lunch kids, etc.  The ones that have to get a job because they need to help the family pay the electric bill and kids that have no interest what-so-ever in school.  At Mater Dei, those types of students are rare, while at a public school they are no so rare.  

Eliminating those kids, makes the quality of the school go up and therefore more potential athletes and kids in extra curricular activities.  

They are equal to a school of 800-1000 students?  By what standard?  

By the standard that a public school must accept everyone that walks in the door, no matter how much money they have.  If a kid goes up to MD on the first day of school saying they live in the "district" they don't have to accept him if he doesn't have the $4,200 to get in.  At Garrett, that kid MUST be accepted.  

What mathematical formula did you use to come to that conclusion?

A magical one.  Adding the fat to MD's population that they trimmed off by charging $4,200 a year.

 If they are equal to a school of 800 students, wouldn't that put them in the small school class?  

It would put them close to the bubble, but they would be a big school.  The 50% mark is at around 730 students when I did the class stuff this spring with the new data from the IHSAA.

Most of this statement seems to by Y2's supposition, based only on what he BELIEVES, not supported by any facts other than special education and reduced lunches.  I will repeat, calling MD a big school is assinine.

It is a fact that Mater Dei's students are very much more higher quality than that of Garrett's.  Graduation rates, attendance rates, and number of students entering college tell that this is a FACT.  No public school in the nation has a 99% graduation rate or 95% of their students going on to college.  Mater Dei has trimmed the fat, so to speak, of kids that basically don't want to be at school.

If you can't understand that, then you really cannot understand logic.  MD has probably 95% of their students eligible at any time for athletics, while at Garrett, its probably closer to 70%, if that.      

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If there were two classes in wrestling, split up evenly, Bellmont would not be in the lower class.  They have almost 900 students and the cut-off would be around 730 students. 

Bellmont is not a small school.  They have almost 900(894) students, with the median in wrestling being around 730 students.  They are one of the biggest schools in 3A football.  Smaller, yes, but not even close to being a small school(lower 50% enrollment). 

Most schools in "da region" all have 1000+ students. 

Merrillville 2393

Munster 1582

Hobart 1234

Crown Point 2289

Lowell 1247

Portage 2534

Lake Central 2978

The only region team that is small that has a great program is Hanover Central and they find it tough to compete teamwise against the Merrillvilles and Crown Points of da region.

I 100% agree that community and parent support is all present at the top programs.  The best and most efficient way to get this is through winning championships.  When a basketball team can win sectional with a losing record and your best wrestling teams ever can't come close to a sectional title.  Its hard to win championships when, like I said earlier, it takes a very special team to even compete for it. 

They are equal to a public school of 800-1000 students.  That would mean in wrestling they would be in the upper half of the enrollment.  In no way they are equal to Garrett, which has 11 more students than them.  Mater Dei does not have 22% of their students in special education, they do NOT have 40% of their students on free or reduced lunches and they graduate 10% more students a year.  

Comparing Mater Dei to a similar sized public school is not even close.

I can't believe the site has grown up so quickly!

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On November 21st, BGHS traveled up to Lake Station for the Danny Chavez Invitational. They defeated Whiting by a score of 49-18, Lake Station 48-21, North Newton 41-24 and Hammon Morton is a close match, 42-39. They fell at the event to South Bend Washington by a score of 60-24.

On the 28th, the Wolves hosted the Boone Grove Duels, coming out on top by winning two out of three matches. They defeated Hebron 59-12 and Hammond by a score of 48-30 before falling to Hammon Morton 36-40.

Seymour 48 Southwestern 30

103 - Cory O'Neal (SW) dec. Levi Hill (Sey)

112 - Michael Humphrey (SW) maj dec. Michael Camp (Sey)

119 - Luke Schroeder (SW) wbf

125 - Southwestern forfeit

130 - Southwestern forfeit

135 - Michael Brawner (SW) pin Will Coons (Sey)

140 - Southwestern forfeit

145 - Eli Lauderbaugh (SW) maj dec Kyle McCauley (Sey)

152 - RJ Rowlett (SW) pin Blake Schultheis (Sey)

160 - Southwestern forfeit

171 - Stephen Fleming (Sey) pin Stuart Bramer (SW)

189 - Southwestern forfeit

215 - Southwestern forfeit

285 - Southwestern forfeit

Patriots 62, Red Devils 18

103-Williams Scaif (RHS) won by forfeit. 112-Hunter Hartman (UC) won by forfeit. 119-Cody Phillips (UC) tech fall David Noe 21-6. 125-Austin Fuller (UC) dec. Garrett Port 4-3. 130-Taylor Gray (RHS) pinned Blake Frasur 0:48. 135-Andrew Brenegan (UC) pinned Jake Bottoms 2:12. 140-Michael Rogers (UC) won by forfeit. 145-Morgan Edwards (UC) pinned Jaylen Cooper 1:31. 152-Wyatt Krom (UC) won by forfeit. 160-Bruce Moschell (RHS) pinned Jackson Schneider 2:17. 171-Jake Hall (UC) won by forfeit. 189-Cody Rader (UC) won by forfeit. 215-Michael Duckworth (UC) pinned Eli Garland 5:16. HWT-Wendell Lumpkin (UC) pinned Caleb Wright 0:49.

SOUTH SIDE 53, SNIDER 18

103-Devin Hubbard (Sni) by forfeit; 112-Mason meling (Sni) dec. James Johnson 9-7; 119-Alex Troy (Sni) pin Dakota Stead 1:35; 125-Tony Elkins (Sni) dec. Phil Fisher 8-1; 130-Cassius Stallings (SS) pin Nick Wright 3:55; 135-Marvin Washington (SS) dec. David Freygang 6-2; 140-Lamont Lankford (SS) dec. Aaron Bender 17-12; 145-Cody Vazquez (SS) pin Dylan Lackey 3:05; 152-Legan Thatcher (SS) by forfeit; 160-Aristotle Bennett (SS) pin James Starks 3:23; 171-Patrick Wieto (SS) pin Anthony Annunziata 3:02; 189-Thaddeus Hill (SS) pinned Logan Dan 5:40; 215-Theo Coursen-Carr (SS) by forfeit; 285-Vernie Starks (SS) pin Ruben Holcomb.

Evansville Mater Dei is a small school. They are 2A in all the sports that are classed.

Mater Dei is a parochial school, their 500ish students are not equal to the students at a public school the same size.  No public school in the state has a 99% graduation rate, 98% average attendance, or have 91% enter two or four year schools after graduation.  When you can find me a public high school with those stats,  I will proudly call Mater Dei a small school.  Until then, they are not considered a small school.

That is because he was at the garrett wrestling camp this summer.

The dual state championship series shows which school has the best 14 guys and is best for determining who the best team is.  That you cannot question one iota, the bad thing is the team tournament is basically only for about 20 teams in the state.  The other 290 teams really have very little shot to make it to team state.  Many people on here could probably predict 6-8 of the team state finalists before the season even starts. 

I have only been to one team state finals and loved the atmosphere and everything about it.  Being in the CG gym with the fans so close to the action and the chanting and cheering.  It is more exciting than the individual finals because every match means something to everyone.

With that said, the team state tournament is very much catered to bigger schools.  For a small school to make it, many different variables must fall in place at the right time.  Kids all must be separated by 5ish pounds and have 14 that are all solid.  On top of that no one can get hurt or in trouble and on top of that you need to match up well against the competition in your regional.  If one of these variables fails, the team's chances go down immensely, not only to possibly make it to team state, but to win your sectional.  From a small school perspective, you strive for the goal of reaching team state, but realize that the chance might come along once every 10-20 years for that perfect team to be assembled. 

Woodlan was third in the sectional last year.  South Adams has already beaten them in a dual last week.  It will most likely be a three team race with South Adams, Adams Central and Garrett.  South Adams and Garrett wrestle tomorrow night at Garrett.  The last three duals between these teams have been extremely close, coming down to the last match each time.

u have dylan letoureau from whitko 3rd at 125 in ftwayne semi state rankings and travis barroquillo praire heights 4th but in state ranking u have travis 10th and dont even have dylan on state ranking whys this

 

Because the rankings guy and I are two separate people.  And I don' t like Barroquillo, he's a brat

If the anaconda is the front headlock type as I think it is....it is definitely illegal, as it's sole purpose is as a choke.  The arm triangle when on the mat can definitely be potentially dangerous, but not likely illegal.

If the ref feels the wrestler is purposely choking his opponent then it is deemed illegal.  Just as a double leg can become illegal if you pick someone up and slam the, the same can be said for a headlock.

The Rankings guy and the Semi-state rankers are separate folks

Thankfully.... I am way better looking.

FAIRFIELD 64, EASTSIDE 12

103 -- Double forfeit. 112 -- Brett Martz (F) pin Daimon Heffley 1:21. 119 -- Ricky Masters (F) pin Jake Firstine 2:48. 125 -- Joshe Yates (F) pin Tim Vernardin 1:26. 130 -- Dillon Hinen pin Jake DeLong 5:02. 135 -- Brandon Zolman (E) pin Drew Yoder 4:24. 140 -- Dustin Hinen (F) pin Austin Farley 1:12. 145 -- Dustin Smallwood (F) by forfeit. 152 -- Jerad Stump (F) pin Matt Frisby 0:22 160 -- Adam Kolakowski (F) pin Gabe Crowder 1:14. 171 -- Alex Hostetler (F) pin Shane Pringle 3:53. 189 -- Jordan Bontrager (F) dec. Jon Frisby 13-3. 215 -- Justin Comino (F) pin Matt Beard 2:53. Hwt -- Jake Hugnart (E) pin Brock Garner 3:16.