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  1. UPDATED JANUARY 21 WITH NEW TEAM ALLOCATIONS The IHSWCA has decided on significant changes for Team State for 2020-21. Namely, a 4th class will be added and the new 4A and 3A classes will have 8 teams (while 1A and 2A continue to have 12 each). These changes will determine new qualification procedures during this year's individual tournament. Here is a summary of the specific changes and their rationale: --A new 4A class will be added, which will include only schools with 2000 or more students plus the teams that have decided to compete in the largest division despite smaller enrollments. RATIONALE: There is a very consistent, even distribution of schools across enrollments from the smallest schools up through most of the current 3A schools, at which point we see a sharp spike in enrollment among the top third of that current class. This means there is a much, much larger gap between the biggest and smallest schools in 3A, comparing with 2A and 1A. Consequently, we've seen very rare high placement at Team State outside of the biggest few schools and the two Catholic powerhouses while there is a broader range of success in the other divisions. All 4 divisions will now have roughly 2 times as many students in its largest schools compared to its smallest. --Eight (8) teams will qualify for the event in 3A and 4A. Twelve (12) will still qualify in 1A and 2A. RATIONALE: Much has been made about the wait periods for the big school duals at Team State between rounds with the current unbalanced system of 12 teams per class. With the change to 8 teams per class in the larger classes with slower duals, the event can move along more efficiently. In 4A and 3A, there will be two pools of 4 teams per class. Pool winners will wrestle for the championship and all other teams will wrestle a placement match based on their position in their pool. In 2A and 1A, the 5-round program will proceed as it did this season (3-team pools, 4-team placement brackets, all teams guaranteed 4 matches) with the realization that the 3-round pool matches will be completed at roughly the same time as the first two of the four rounds for 4A and 3A. --Classification for 1A, 2A, and 3A will be unbalanced to allow for an equal percentage of qualifying teams per class. After the 4A schools are removed, the remaining schools with at least 7 wrestlers at sectional, will be divided so that 3A has 25% of the schools (roughly 60) and 2A and 1A have 1.5 times the number of 3A (roughly 90 each). RATIONALE: All of 1A, 2A, and 3A will have the same percentage rate of qualifying schools. Only the very large schools will be put in a smaller group to reflect their high concentration of the best overall teams that have made up almost all of the big school top 4 finishers during the IHSWCA Team State era. --Geographical qualification will be adjusted slightly in 3A and 4A. Going forward, the best 3 semi-state winning qualification scores will receive automatic bids in the big school classes. Additionally, the next 3 best scores, no matter the semi-state, will receive the next 3 automatic bids. Finally, if the 4th best semi-state winner in a given semi-state has a qualification score among the class's Top 10, they will receive the 7th bid in the class. All other bids (1 or 2 per class to fill out the field of 8 ) will be voted on according to protocols similar to the past. RATIONALE: Preserving geographic distribution of qualifiers is important. However, there will be an increased problem with low numbers of teams at certain semi-states and a more limited field of 8 spots available per class to keep the event at its highest competition level possible. For example, there will be only 3 schools in the new 4A class in Fort Wayne, while the other sites have between 8 and 13 teams each. These new qualification procedures will allow a strong representation across classes for all semi-states and allow a fair opportunity for all semi-state winners to prove their worth without unduly punishing deserving event candidates.
  2. https://indianamat.com/index.php?/search/&q=Team state qualification scores&search_and_or=and
  3. Here are unofficial 3A Team State Qualification scores through sectional. They remain unofficial because Evansville semi-state teams haven't gone through a full cross-check and because we are trying to get the facts about Indianapolis Public School consolidation plans for next year that could affect the classification of a couple teams. Remember from previous years that 3A scores are virtually meaningless at this point. Teams far down the list will still make enormous jumps. Rank Class 3A Teams Score Left 1 Warren Central 106.0 14 2 Carmel 100.0 13 3 Roncalli 100.0 14 4 Pendleton Heights 90.0 12 5 Lake Central 88.0 10 6 Indianapolis Cathedral 88.0 14 7 North Central (Indianapolis) 88.0 14 8 Mishawaka 85.0 12 9 Columbus East 82.0 13 10 Martinsville 82.0 7 11 Seymour 82.0 9 12 Penn 81.0 14 13 Noblesville 81.0 6 14 Carroll (Fort Wayne) 81.0 13 15 Fishers 80.0 9 16 Perry Meridian 78.0 13 17 Ben Davis 78.0 10 18 Northridge 78.0 9 19 Jay County 77.0 11 20 Chesterton 76.0 14 21 LaPorte 76.0 12 22 Avon 76.0 12 23 Brownsburg 76.0 13 24 Evansville Mater Dei 76.0 14 25 Plainfield 76.0 7 26 Mount Vernon (Fortville) 75.0 6 27 Jeffersonville 75.0 13 28 Fort Wayne Snider 75.0 11 29 Goshen 75.0 11 30 Lowell 74.0 9 31 Decatur Central 74.0 5 32 Huntington North 73.0 7 33 Hobart 72.0 13 34 Merrillville 72.0 14 35 Lawrence North 72.0 8 36 Floyd Central 71.0 13 37 McCutcheon 70.0 10 38 Hamilton Southeastern 70.0 10 39 New Palestine 70.0 9 40 Bloomington South 70.0 11 41 Mooresville 70.0 8 42 Anderson 69.0 10 43 Westfield 69.0 8 44 Lawrence Central 68.0 7 45 Castle 68.0 12 46 Terre Haute South Vigo 68.0 8 47 Harrison (West Lafayette) 66.0 12 48 Franklin Central 66.0 7 49 Zionsville 66.0 12 50 Franklin Community 66.0 7 51 South Bend Riley 63.0 8 52 Evansville F.J. Reitz 63.0 9 53 Homestead 62.0 9 54 Crown Point 60.0 13 55 Kankakee Valley 60.0 7 56 Southport 60.0 10 57 Elkhart Central 59.0 9 58 East Central 58.0 6 59 Center Grove 57.0 7 60 Greenwood Community 57.0 7 61 Greenfield-Central 56.0 8 62 East Noble 56.0 5 63 Jennings County 55.0 9 64 Highland 54.0 10 65 Bloomington North 54.0 5 66 Evansville Central 54.0 5 67 Evansville Harrison 54.0 5 68 Michigan City 53.0 6 69 Plymouth 53.0 10 70 South Bend Adams 53.0 7 71 Whiteland Community 53.0 4 72 Portage 52.0 14 73 Columbus North 51.0 4 74 Columbia City 51.0 3 75 Concord 49.0 6 76 Kokomo 49.0 3 77 Valparaiso 48.0 5 78 Warsaw Community 48.0 6 79 Munster 47.0 6 80 New Albany 45.0 8 81 Logansport 44.0 6 82 Fort Wayne South Side 44.0 4 83 Shelbyville 43.0 3 84 DeKalb 43.0 1 85 Fort Wayne Northrop 43.0 3 86 Muncie Central 43.0 9 87 Pike 42.0 5 88 East Chicago Central 41.0 4 89 Lafayette Jefferson 40.0 8 90 Connersville 39.0 4 91 New Castle 38.0 9 92 Elkhart Memorial 38.0 4 93 Fort Wayne North Side 38.0 3 94 Fort Wayne Wayne 35.0 4 95 Evansville North 33.0 1 96 Hammond Morton 30.0 7 97 South Bend Clay 28.0 5 98 Bedford North Lawrence 26.0 2 99 Richmond 24.0 2 100 Terre Haute North Vigo 23.0 1 101 Princeton Community 22.0 2
  4. Attached below are the 2018 Team State Qualification Procedures Also, here are links to Frequently Asked Questions on a variety of topics about the qualification process: General qualification and scoring: http://indianamat.com/index.php?/topic/51527-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-1-general-qualification-and-scoring-process/ Team classification: http://indianamat.com/index.php?/topic/51528-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-2-team-classification/ (this FAQ section is from last year..ignore the bold type and read down further to understand when classification will be finalized this year) Controlling for sectional and regional difficulty: http://indianamat.com/index.php?/topic/51529-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-3-controlling-for-sectional-and-regional-difficulty/ Injuries and "those scores don't seem fair!": http://indianamat.com/index.php?/topic/51530-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-4-injuries-and-those-scores-dont-seem-fair-situations/ IHSWCA Team State Qualification Procedures 2018.pdf
  5. Here is the explanation for how Categories work: http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/51529-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-3-controlling-for-sectional-and-regional-difficulty/?fromsearch=1 Categories are recalculated every year and included in the qualification procedures doc I linked above in response to Brick6. But no, scores aren't adjusted up or down; there are just sometimes more or less than 4 regional or semi-state scoring positions available at each tournament site depending on its depth. The FAQ link explains it step by step.
  6. We've said this many times: the qualification process is a competition. It comes with a mix of bad luck and bad draws and good luck and good draws. It also comes with lots of scenarios that aren't figured into scoring so that it can remain a competition. And it's been very effective in getting the following season's top teams into the event (with the current "Category" system for controlling for tournament path difficulty, at least the top 5 and 8 of the top 10 from the season-ending duals rankings for all 3 classes the following year were involved in team state). Outside of the scoring, the only small thing that's "post-adjusted" is a sophomore or junior injured or transfer ineligible fully before sectional begins. As of now, there are no other rules in place to adjust scores. If we have specific suggestions like the one discussed here, please definitely suggest it to me to propose or to voting members of the committee before next season so we can look at them. But it's unfortunately not the type of thing that's going to be changed after the fact when it's one of a dozen scenarios we could list if we wanted to get into all the minutiae we could explore for making projected scores as absolutely accurate as possible. For this season, I think you can appreciate how it's simply too late to change or add rules on the fly.
  7. Topic #2: Team Classification Q: What data are used to determine teams' classification? --The most recent official enrollment data from the IHSAA are used to classify teams into 1A, 2A, and 3A. FOR THE UPCOMING QUALIFICATION FOR THE 2020-21 EVENT, WE WILL USE THE DATA THAT THE IHSAA RELEASED LAST JANUARY THAT GOVERNS ALL 2020-21 SPORTS. Q: How many teams are assigned to each class? --All teams with 2000+ students are assigned to 4A. Then 25% of the remaining schools are assigned to 3A. Finally, after 4A and 3A schools have been removed, the rest of the schools are divided equally among 2A and 1A. Q: Are all Indiana high school wrestling programs eligible? --Yes. However, a program must have 7 wrestlers compete at sectional for their team to be counted in classification. Q: When is final classification announced each year? --Usually, finalized classification assignments are announced following sectional Saturday when the eligible teams can be fully confirmed. In some years, the IHSAA releases its new data just after our tournament begins and so we wait to announce final classification based on those numbers. This year, we should be able to release finalized classification early in the week after sectionals. Q: Why the change to only classify teams with at least 7 participants when the IHSAA counts sectional scores of teams with only 3? --The selection committee wanted the teams eligible to be those that could be considered a genuine dual meet team--not just a tournament team. This total of 7 is in line with what our neighbor Ohio does for their similar Team State format.
  8. Just after Team State and during the Team State qualification process (during the individual state series), I am asked many, many questions "behind the scenes" by coaches and parents that want to understand the process better. While the event is fresh in people's minds, I want to post a series of "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)" topics with basic descriptions of the qualification process. Topic #2: Team Classification Q: What data are used to determine teams' classification? --The most recent official enrollment data from the IHSAA are used to classify teams into 1A, 2A, and 3A. FOR THE UPCOMING QUALIFICATION FOR THE 2017-18 EVENT, WE WILL USE THE DATA THAT THE IHSAA WILL RELEASE JUST AFTER INDIVIDUAL STATE. UNTIL THAT TIME, ALL LEADERBOARDS WE TRACK WILL BE SOMEWHAT UNOFFICIAL. Q: How many teams are assigned to each class? --One third of all eligible teams each year are assigned to each class. These totals could be slightly different from year to year. Q: Are all Indiana high school wrestling programs eligible? --The IHSAA only counts the sectional scores of teams that have at least 3 wrestlers participating. Therefore, only those schools who compete at sectional with at least 3 weights filled are considered toward Team State qualification and counted toward classification. Q: When is final classification announced each year? --In odd numbered years (i.e. this year's 2017 individual state finals), new enrollment numbers are released by the IHSAA at the end of February or beginning of March. Therefore, finalized classification takes place when those numbers are released. In even numbered years (i.e. 2018 individual state finals), finalized classification assignments are announced following sectional Saturday when the eligible teams can be fully confirmed. Q: Why are teams with small lineups as low as 3 wrestlers included in the process of a duals tournament qualification process? Why not set a higher minimum threshold of participants before classifying teams? --The IHSWCA selection committee coaches feel that Team State should be an "all-inclusive" event and that using the IHSAA's standards for scoring consideration reflects this purpose.
  9. Topic #3: Controlling for Sectional and Regional Difficulty Q: Why is it necessary to consider sectional and regional difficulty in the Team State scoring process? --There is a vast difference in the quality and depth of various sectionals and regionals. For example, one sectional had only 5 wrestlers per weight class, on average, while several others had nearly double that number. Another example: the 7th best wrestler from a sectional with all large schools had an average record of 17-11, while the average 4th place wrestler's record from a sectional of all small schools was 13-15. Simply assigning regional qualifier or semi-state qualifier points without considering these enormous differences would greatly skew teams' scores away from their true quality in many instances. Q: In what way are sectional and regional quality levels measured? --Because we want to assign points according to advancement to regional and semi-state, we must determine how difficult it is to advance out of sectionals and regionals. This means we cannot simply consider which tournament sites have the most semi-state or state qualifiers, as this has little bearing on how "crowded" or difficult it is to advance. For example, one sectional with 4 traditionally strong large schools with numerous state qualifiers every year had only 5.3 wrestlers per weight class last year because the other 4 schools had very low participation. If we only consider our first impression of the tournament site's quality based on how many strong top-level individuals there are, we might miss the fact that it is very, very easy to place at least 4th and earn regional qualification. We must use other methods to figure out advancement difficulty levels. Q: How can we know how difficult it is to advance from a particular sectional or regional? --We can look at the Genius ratings of all schools for the last several years and consider how many regional qualifiers and semi-state qualifiers they got while "controlling" mathematically for their sectional and regional path. Using all of these factors simultaneously, we can project very, very accurately how many regional or semi-state qualifiers teams of any given Genius rating "deserves" if they were in an average level tournament path. If we then add together how many regional and semi-state qualifiers the teams of each sectional and regional should have, we can know how difficult each tournament site is to advance from. Q: What are Genius ratings? --Genius ratings are ratings that use the system on which all major sports' "true talent" or "true ability" ratings systems are based. All Las Vegas lines for particular games, for example, use the score-based ratings system that we use to compile the Genius ratings. The ratings include all scores for all dual meets and tournaments in the IndianaMat database for the entire season. They are very accurate, very predictive ratings over the long term. Q: Once we know how many regional and semi-state qualifiers each tournament site "deserves", how do we specifically control for their various difficulty levels? --Using our "deserved" regional or semi-state qualifier totals, we assign a "Category" level to each tournament that corresponds with a "quota" of advancers per weight class that are assigned to that tournament. For example, a sectional that deserves 4 regional qualifiers per weight class is a Category 4 sectional. A regional that deserves 5 semi-state qualifiers per weight class is a Category 5 regional. We then award regional qualifier points or semi-state qualifier points based on each site's Category quota (between 2 and 6 per weight class per site). Q: How can we award regional qualifier or semi-state qualifier points to 5 or 6 guys when only 4 really advance? --For sectionals, a Category 5 or Category 6 site's individuals receive regional qualifier points for placing 5th or 6th place. For Category 5 or Category 6 regionals, we use tiebreaker criteria to award 5th and 6th place to individuals who are then awarded semi-state qualifier points despite not advancing in real-life. Q: When are the Categories assigned for sectional and regional tournament sites? --They will be announced each season during the last week or two before sectionals. Q: What about the "multiplier" that I heard about that controls for sectional and regional difficulty? --The multiplier no longer exists It was a little bit less accurate and more difficult for tracking your own team's score. Q: Why does my sectional have the same (or lower) category than the sectional we face at regional when we had just as many semi-state qualifiers as them when our regional qualifiers faced each other face to face? Or...why does my regional with more state qualifiers or more state ranked kids have a lower Category level than another regional with less? --Your sectional, despite having just as many (or more) strong top-end individuals, was not deeper than the other sectional at the 4th, 5th and 6th spots at your sectionals. In other words, your sectional was not harder to get out of even though your best individuals are just as good or better than the other sectional. --The same applies for your regional having more state qualifiers than another regional from your semi-state despite their Category level being higher than yours. Just because you have more top-end talent doesn't mean arriving at semi-state is more difficult in general. The other regional is more "crowded" than yours and is therefore more difficult to advance from.
  10. Topic #1: General Qualification and Scoring Process Q: How many teams qualify for the Team State Duals championship? --40 teams qualify --12 teams from each of 2 smaller-school classes (1A, 2A) and 8 teams from each of 2 bigger-school classes (3A, 4A) Q: How and when do teams qualify? --Teams qualify by earning points in the IHSAA individual state series (all 4 tournament steps) --The top scoring team from each semi-state for each class earns an automatic berth in 1A and 2A (4 berths total per class). The 3 best semi-state winning qualification scores earn automatic berths in 3A and 4A (3 berths per class). --The six highest scores in each class that are NOT one of the 4 semi-state winners also earn automatic berths in 1A and 2A (6 automatic wildcard berths per class). The three highest scores in each class that are NOT one of the 3 best semi-state winners also earn automatic berths in 3A and 4A (3 automatic wildcard berths per class). --The seventh berth in 3A and 4A will go to the 4th best semi-state winner if that team places in the top 10 qualifying scores overall. --The final undecided berths in all classes are voted on by the tournament IHSWCA selection committee from among the next few highest scoring teams in each class. This voting happens at the beginning of April. Q: How do teams earn points during the IHSAA tournament series? --Individuals earn points for their teams by arriving at one of the following final classifications: sectional non-placer, sectional placer, regional qualifier, semi-state first round, semi-state second round, state first round/8th place, state 6th-7th place, state 3rd-5th place, state runner-up, state champion --Points for these levels are different for each of the 4 classes and they are different for seniors and underclassmen Q: How can points in an individual tournament be used to determine who the best duals teams will be the next year? --The points are not awarded as they are in a typical individual tournament. They are specifically awarded to reflect each individual's expected positive impact on their team's dual meet ability next year. For example, a semi-state qualifier will have more of an impact on their team's duals ability next year than a regional qualifier and a regional qualifier will have more impact than a sectional non-placer. Similarly, an underclassman state qualifier tells us more about a team's duals ability next year than a graduating senior state qualifier. The scoring captures all of these differences. --WE HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON THE SCORING ELEMENTS--OFTEN AS FAR BACK AS 15 YEARS FOR CERTAIN PARTS--TO BE SURE THAT SCORING VALUES ARE THE BEST POSSIBLE PREDICTORS OF NEXT YEAR'S TEAM SUCCESS Q: Why is there different scoring for the different classes? --Having wrestlers at different advancement levels means something different in each class. For example, in 1A, there is very little difference between having a returning semi-state qualifier and a state champion when 1A schools are wrestling against each other. However, there is a huge difference between having a semi-state qualifier and a sectional non-placer. On the other hand, in 4A, there's very little difference between a regional qualifier and a sectional non-placer's impact on next year's team when good teams are wrestling each other. However, there is a huge difference between a semi-state first round loser and a state champion when top 4A teams face off. The scoring must reflect these class differences. Q: Why is there different scoring for underclassmen and seniors? --Underclassmen are obviously coming back next year, so they are much, much stronger predictor's of next year's team's ability. Their scoring is therefore much more significant than seniors'. Q: Why are seniors' scoring included at all since they won't be back? --Seniors' performance are very good indicators of a program's strength, so they are strong predictors of next year's team's ability. There are teams in the top 10 of the state every year that lost 6 or 7 seniors from the previous season. We have to include seniors' scores (at a lesser level than underclassmen, of course) or those teams will be virtually eliminated from qualifying. Q: Why is there a "full lineup bonus" for three of the classes? --Almost all lineups in 1A and many in 2A have forfeits. Especially in 1A, history shows that having bonuses for full or almost full lineups helps us further know who the best teams will be next year. In 2A and 3A, there is a small bonus for having 12 to 14 guys, but nothing beyond that. You have to have a full lineup of very good individuals for any chance to qualify in 4A. Scoring 0 points at a weight is penalty enough, research has shown, so there is no special bonus for having no forfeits in 4A.
  11. Just after Team State and during the Team State qualification process (during the individual state series), I am asked many, many questions "behind the scenes" by coaches and parents that want to understand the process better. While the event is fresh in people's minds, I want to post a series of "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)" topics with basic descriptions of the qualification process. Topic #3: Controlling for Sectional and Regional Difficulty Q: Why is it necessary to consider sectional and regional difficulty in the Team State scoring process? --There is a vast difference in the quality and depth of various sectionals and regionals. For example, one sectional had only 5 wrestlers per weight class, on average, while several others had nearly double that number. Another example: the 7th best wrestler from a sectional with all large schools had an average record of 17-11, while the average 4th place wrestler's record from a sectional of all small schools was 13-15. Simply assigning regional qualifier or semi-state qualifier points without considering these enormous differences would greatly skew teams' scores away from their true quality in many instances. Q: In what way are sectional and regional quality levels measured? --Because we want to assign points according to advancement to regional and semi-state, we must determine how difficult it is to advance out of sectionals and regionals. This means we cannot simply consider which tournament sites have the most semi-state or state qualifiers, as this has little bearing on how "crowded" or difficult it is to advance. For example, one sectional with 4 traditionally strong large schools with numerous state qualifiers every year had only 5.3 wrestlers per weight class last year because the other 4 schools had very low participation. If we only consider our first impression of the tournament site's quality based on how many strong top-level individuals there are, we might miss the fact that it is very, very easy to place at least 4th and earn regional qualification. We must use other methods to figure out advancement difficulty levels. Q: How can we know how difficult it is to advance from a particular sectional or regional? --We can look at the Genius ratings of all schools for the last several years and consider how many regional qualifiers and semi-state qualifiers they got while "controlling" mathematically for their sectional and regional path. Using all of these factors simultaneously, we can project very, very accurately how many regional or semi-state qualifiers teams of any given Genius rating "deserves" if they were in an average level tournament path. If we then add together how many regional and semi-state qualifiers the teams of each sectional and regional should have, we can know how difficult each tournament site is to advance from. Q: What are Genius ratings? --Genius ratings are computer ratings that use the system on which all major sports' "true talent" or "true ability" ratings systems are based. All Las Vegas lines for particular games, for example, use the score-based ratings system that we use to compile the Genius ratings. The ratings include all scores for all dual meets and tournaments in the IndianaMat database for the entire season. They are very accurate, very predictive ratings over the long term. Q: Once we know how many regional and semi-state qualifiers each tournament site "deserves", how do we specifically control for their various difficulty levels? --Using our "deserved" regional or semi-state qualifier totals, we assign a "Category" level to each tournament that corresponds with a "quota" of advancers per weight class that are assigned to that tournament. For example, a sectional that deserves 4 regional qualifiers per weight class is a Category 4 sectional. A regional that deserves 5 semi-state qualifiers per weight class is a Category 5 regional. We then award regional qualifier points or semi-state qualifier points based on each site's Category quota (between 2 and 6 per weight class per site). Q: How can we award regional qualifier or semi-state qualifier points to 5 or 6 guys when only 4 really advanced? --For sectionals, a Category 5 or Category 6 site's individuals receive regional qualifier points for placing 5th or 6th place. For Category 5 or Category 6 regionals, we use tiebreaker criteria to award 5th and 6th place to individuals who are then awarded semi-state qualifier points despite not advancing in real-life. Q: When are the Categories assigned for sectional and regional tournament sites? --They will be announced each season during the last week or two before sectionals. This year, they will be announced Thursday or Friday before sectional as part of the Team State qualification procedures document that is always posted to the IHSWCA website. Q: What about the "multiplier" that I heard about that controls for sectional and regional difficulty? --The multiplier no longer exists It was a little bit less accurate and more difficult for tracking your own team's score. Q: Why does my sectional have the same (or lower) category than the sectional we face at regional when we had just as many semi-state qualifiers as them when our regional qualifiers faced each other face to face? --Your sectional, despite having just as many (or more) strong top-end individuals, was not deeper than the other sectional at the 4th, 5th and 6th spots at your sectionals. In other words, your sectional was not harder to get out of even though your best individuals are just as good or better than the other sectional.
  12. Just after Team State and during the Team State qualification process (during the individual state series), I am asked many, many questions "behind the scenes" by coaches and parents that want to understand the process better. While the event is fresh in people's minds, I want to post a series of "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)" topics with basic descriptions of the qualification process. Topic #1: General Qualification and Scoring Process Q: How many teams qualify for the Team State Duals championship? --36 teams qualify --12 teams from each of 3 classes (1A, 2A, 3A) Q: How and when do teams qualify? --Teams qualify by earning points in the IHSAA individual state series (all 4 tournament steps) --The top scoring team from each semi-state for each class earns an automatic berth (4 berths total per class) --The six highest scores in each class that are NOT one of the 4 semi-state winners also earn automatic berths (6 berths per class) --The final two berths in each class are voted on by the tournament IHSWCA selection committee from among the next few highest scoring teams in each class. This voting happens at the beginning of April. Q: How do teams earn points during the IHSAA tournament series? --Individuals earn points for their teams by arriving at one of the following final classifications: sectional non-placer, sectional placer, regional qualifier, semi-state first round, semi-state second round, state first round/8th place, state 6th-7th place, state 3rd-5th place, state runner-up, state champion --Points for these levels are different for each of the 3 classes and they are different for seniors and underclassmen Q: How can points in an individual tournament be used to determine who the best duals teams will be the next year? --The points are not awarded as they are in a typical individual tournament. They are specifically awarded to reflect each individual's expected positive impact on his team's dual meet ability next year. For example, a semi-state qualifier will have more of an impact on his team's duals ability next year than a regional qualifier and a regional qualifier will have more impact than a sectional non-placer. Similarly, an underclassmen state qualifier tells us more about a team's duals ability next year than a graduating senior state qualifier. The scoring captures all of these differences. --WE HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE, EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON THE SCORING ELEMENTS--OFTEN AS FAR BACK AS 10-12 YEARS FOR CERTAIN PARTS--TO BE SURE THAT SCORING VALUES ARE THE BEST POSSIBLE PREDICTORS OF NEXT YEAR'S TEAM SUCCESS Q: Why is there different scoring for the different classes? --Having wrestlers at different advancement levels means something different in each class. For example, in 1A, there is very little difference between having a returning semi-state qualifier and a state champion when 1A schools are wrestling against each other. However, there is a huge difference between having a semi-state qualifier and a sectional non-placer. On the other hand, in 3A, there's very little difference between a regional qualifier and a sectional non-placer's impact on next year's team when good teams are wrestling each other. However, there is a huge difference between a semi-state first round loser and a state champion when top 3A teams face off. The scoring must reflect these class differences. Q: Why is there different scoring for underclassmen and seniors? --Underclassmen are obviously coming back next year, so they are much, much stronger predictor's of next year's team's ability. Their scoring is therefore much more significant than seniors'. Q: Why are seniors' scoring included at all since they won't be back? --Seniors' performance are very good indicators of a program's strength, so they are extremely good predictors of next year's team's ability. There are teams in the top 10 of the state every year that lost 6 or 7 seniors from the previous season. We have to include seniors' scores (at a lesser level than underclassmen, of course) or teams with many seniors will be virtually eliminated from qualifying. Q: Why is there a "full lineup bonus" for a couple of the classes? --Almost all lineups in 1A and many in 2A have forfeits. Especially in 1A, history shows that having bonuses for full or almost full lineups helps us further know who the best teams will be next year. In 2A, there is a small bonus for having 13 or 14 guys, but nothing beyond that. You have to have a full lineup of very good individuals for any chance to qualify in 3A. Scoring 0 points at a weight is penalty enough, research has shown, so there is no special bonus for having no forfeits in 3A.
  13. Here is a link to the IHSWCA Team State qualifying procedures for this year: https://sites.google.com/site/inwrestlingcoaches/news/selection2016 A pdf download of classification assignments can be found here: http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/49552-team-state-classification-finalized/ Scoring and all practical items are the same as last season. Coaches, make special note of the steps and deadline for submitting injured wrestler information. Most questions not addressed in the procedures document that you have about all things related to the qualifying process can be answered in these Frequently Asked Question posts I previously prepared: General Qualification and Scoring: http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/49226-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-1-general-qualification-and-scoring-process Team Classification: http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/49236-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-2-team-classification Controlling for Sectional and Regional Difficulty: http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/49246-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-3-controlling-for-sectional-and-regional-difficulty Injury Considerations and "Those scores don't seem fair" situations: http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/49259-team-state-qualification-faqs-topic-4-injuries-and-those-scores-dont-seem-fair-situations
  14. Just after Team State and during the Team State qualification process (during the individual state series), I am asked many, many questions "behind the scenes" by coaches and parents that want to understand the process better. While the recent event is fresh in people's minds and qualification for next year is just around the corner, I want to post a series of "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)" topics with basic descriptions of the qualification process. Topic #2: Team Classification Q: What data are used to determine teams' classification? --The most recent official enrollment data from the IHSAA are used to classify teams into 1A, 2A, and 3A. Q: How many teams are assigned to each class? --One third of all eligible teams each year are assigned to each class. These totals could be slightly different from year to year. Q: Are all Indiana high school wrestling programs eligible? --The IHSAA only counts the sectional scores of teams that have at least 3 wrestlers participating. Therefore, only those schools who compete at sectional with at least 3 weights filled are considered toward Team State qualification and counted toward classification. Q: When is final classification announced each year? --In odd numbered years (i.e. 2015 individual state finals), new enrollment numbers are released by the IHSAA at the end of February or beginning of March. Therefore, finalized classification takes place when those numbers are released. In even numbered years (i.e. 2016 individual state finals), finalized classification assignments are announced following sectional Saturday when the eligible teams can be fully confirmed. Q: Why are teams with small lineups as low as 3 wrestlers included in the process of a duals tournament qualification process? Why not set a higher minimum threshold of participants before classifying teams? --The IHSWCA selection committee coaches feel that Team State should be an "all-inclusive" event and that using the IHSAA's standards for scoring consideration reflects this purpose.
  15. Just after Team State and during the Team State qualification process (during the individual state series), I am asked many, many questions "behind the scenes" by coaches and parents that want to understand the process better. While the recent event is fresh in people's minds and qualification for next year is just around the corner, I want to post a series of "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)" topics with basic descriptions of the qualification process. Topic #3: Controlling for Sectional and Regional Difficulty Q: Why is it necessary to consider sectional and regional difficulty in the Team State scoring process? --There is a vast difference in the quality and depth of various sectionals and regionals. For example, one sectional had only 5 wrestlers per weight class, on average, while several others had nearly double that number. Another example: the 7th best wrestler from a sectional with all large schools had an average record of 17-11, while the average 4th place wrestler's record from a sectional of all small schools was 13-15. Simply assigning regional qualifier or semi-state qualifier points without considering these enormous differences would greatly skew teams' scores away from their true quality in many instances. Q: In what way are sectional and regional quality levels measured? --Because we want to assign points according to advancement to regional and semi-state, we must determine how difficult it is to advance out of sectionals and regionals. This means we cannot simply consider which tournament sites have the most semi-state or state qualifiers, as this has little bearing on how "crowded" or difficult it is to advance. For example, one sectional with 4 traditionally strong large schools with numerous state qualifiers every year had only 5.3 wrestlers per weight class last year because the other 4 schools had very low participation. If we only consider our first impression of the tournament site's quality based on how many strong top-level individuals there are, we might miss the fact that it is very, very easy to place at least 4th and earn regional qualification. We must use other methods to figure out advancement difficulty levels. Q: How can we know how difficult it is to advance from a particular sectional or regional? --We can look at the Genius ratings of all schools for the last several years and consider how many regional qualifiers and semi-state qualifiers they got while "controlling" mathematically for their sectional and regional path. Using all of these factors simultaneously, we can project very, very accurately how many regional or semi-state qualifiers teams of any given Genius rating "deserves" if they were in an average level tournament path. If we then add together how many regional and semi-state qualifiers the teams of each sectional and regional should have, we can know how difficult each tournament site is to advance from. Q: What are Genius ratings? --Genius ratings are computer ratings that use the system on which all major sports' "true talent" or "true ability" ratings systems are based. All Las Vegas lines for particular games, for example, use the score-based ratings system that we use to compile the Genius ratings. The ratings include all scores for all dual meets and tournaments in the IndianaMat database for the entire season. They are very accurate, very predictive ratings over the long term. Q: Once we know how many regional and semi-state qualifiers each tournament site "deserves", how do we specifically control for their various difficulty levels? --Using our "deserved" regional or semi-state qualifier totals, we assign a "Category" level to each tournament that corresponds with a "quota" of advancers per weight class that are assigned to that tournament. For example, a sectional that deserves 4 regional qualifiers per weight class is a Category 4 sectional. A regional that deserves 5 semi-state qualifiers per weight class is a Category 5 regional. We then award regional qualifier points or semi-state qualifier points based on each site's Category quota (between 2 and 6 per weight class per site). Q: How can we award regional qualifier or semi-state qualifier points to 5 or 6 guys when only 4 really advanced? --For sectionals, a Category 5 or Category 6 site's individuals receive regional qualifier points for placing 5th or 6th place. For Category 5 or Category 6 regionals, we use tiebreaker criteria to award 5th and 6th place to individuals who are then awarded semi-state qualifier points despite not advancing in real-life. Q: When are the Categories assigned for sectional and regional tournament sites? --They will be announced each season during the last week or two before sectionals. In 2016, they will be announced roughly around the 20th of January. Q: What about the "multiplier" that I heard about that controls for sectional and regional difficulty? --The multiplier no longer exists. It was a little bit less accurate and more difficult for tracking your own team's score. Q: Why does my sectional have the same (or lower) category than the sectional we face at regional when we had just as many semi-state qualifiers as them when our regional qualifiers faced each other face to face? --Your sectional, despite having just as many (or more) strong top-end individuals, was not deeper than the other sectional at the 4th, 5th and 6th spots at your sectionals. In other words, your sectional was not harder to get out of even though your best individuals are just as good or better than the other sectional.
  16. Just after Team State and during the Team State qualification process (during the individual state series), I am asked many, many questions "behind the scenes" by coaches and parents that want to understand the process better. While the recent event is fresh in people's minds and qualification for next year is just around the corner, I want to post a series of "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)" topics with basic descriptions of the qualification process. Topic #1: General Qualification and Scoring Process Q: How many teams qualify for the Team State Duals championship? --36 teams qualify --12 teams from each of 3 classes (1A, 2A, 3A) Q: How and when do teams qualify? --Teams qualify by earning points in the IHSAA individual state series (all 4 tournament steps) --The top scoring team from each semi-state for each class earns an automatic berth (4 berths total per class) --The six highest scores in each class that are NOT one of the 4 semi-state winners also earn automatic berths (6 berths per class) --The final two berths in each class are voted on by the tournament IHSWCA selection committee from among the next few highest scoring teams in each class. This voting happens at the beginning of April. Q: How do teams earn points during the IHSAA tournament series? --Individuals earn points for their teams by arriving at one of the following final classifications: sectional non-placer, sectional placer, regional qualifier, semi-state first round, semi-state second round, state first round/8th place, state 6th-7th place, state 3rd-5th place, state runner-up, state champion --Points for these levels are different for each of the 3 classes and they are different for seniors and underclassmen Q: How can points in an individual tournament be used to determine who the best duals teams will be the next year? --The points are not awarded as they are in a typical individual tournament. They are specifically awarded to reflect each individual's expected positive impact on his team's dual meet ability next year. For example, a semi-state qualifier will have more of an impact on his team's duals ability next year than a regional qualifier and a regional qualifier will have more impact than a sectional non-placer. Similarly, an underclassmen state qualifier tells us more about a team's duals ability next year than a graduating senior state qualifier. The scoring captures all of these differences. --WE HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE, EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON THE SCORING ELEMENTS--OFTEN AS FAR BACK AS 10-12 YEARS FOR CERTAIN PARTS--TO BE SURE THAT SCORING VALUES ARE THE BEST POSSIBLE PREDICTORS OF NEXT YEAR'S TEAM SUCCESS Q: Why is there different scoring for the different classes? --Having wrestlers at different advancement levels means something different in each class. For example, in 1A, there is very little difference between having a returning semi-state qualifier and a state champion when 1A schools are wrestling against each other. However, there is a huge difference between having a semi-state qualifier and a sectional non-placer. On the other hand, in 3A, there's very little difference between a regional qualifier and a sectional non-placer's impact on next year's team when good teams are wrestling each other. However, there is a huge difference between a semi-state first round loser and a state champion when top 3A teams face off. The scoring must reflect these class differences. Q: Why is there different scoring for underclassmen and seniors? --Underclassmen are obviously coming back next year, so they are much, much stronger predictor's of next year's team's ability. Their scoring is therefore much more significant than seniors'. Q: Why are seniors' scoring included at all since they won't be back? --Seniors' performance are very good indicators of a program's strength, so they are extremely good predictors of next year's team's ability. There are teams in the top 10 of the state every year that lost 6 or 7 seniors from the previous season. We have to include seniors' scores (at a lesser level than underclassmen, of course) or those teams will be virtually eliminated from qualifying. Q: Why is there a "full lineup bonus" for a couple of the classes? --Almost all lineups in 1A and many in 2A have forfeits. Especially in 1A, history shows that having bonuses for full or almost full lineups helps us further know who the best teams will be next year. In 2A, there is a small bonus for having 13 or 14 guys, but nothing beyond that. You have to have a full lineup of very good individuals for any chance to qualify in 3A. Scoring 0 points at a weight is penalty enough, research has shown, so there is no special bonus for having no forfeits in 3A.
  17. Here are breakdowns of the current State Duals qualification leaderboards, including potential effects of classification movement when class assignments become official after the IHSAA releases its 2015-17 enrollment numbers in March. Class 3A Semi-state automatic bid leaders: Warren Central-168 (New Castle), Penn-154 (Merrillville), Evansville Mater Dei-148 (Evansville), Carroll-138 (Ft. Wayne) Only the Ft. Wayne auto bid race really matters because the other three semi-states' leaders will all fall into overall automatic bid territory. Even if they do not get the semi-state auto bids, Warren Central, Penn, and Evansville Mater Dei already have nice scores and will score big points this weekend, almost certainly securing bids for themselves. Current Ft. Wayne standings: Carroll-138, Elkhart Memorial-116 (all others have no chance to catch Carroll or to earn a wildcard bid) Memorial could win the majority of its first round semi-state matches and get up to the 165 range or so in points. If they do this, Carroll will need its 11-man semi-state contingency to win some combination of 6 or 7 first and second round matches to wrap up the Ft Wayne auto bid. Current Wildcard Standings (6 automatic bids, 2 additional vote-ins): About 180-185 needed to get an automatic wildcard bid. About 165-170 needed to get into voting consideration. On Saturday, underclassmen score 6 points for first round wins and seniors get 5. Everyone gets 3 for second round wins in 3A. Brownsburg 164 (very high score will probably sustain auto bid territory even with only 8 at SS) Portage 152 (big score coming, virtual lock) Perry Meridian 150 (massive score coming, lock) Valparaiso 142 (surprisingly has a shot; 10 guys alive with decent draws could get them to the low 170s and even higher with some luck) Lawrence North 141 (12 guys alive and some good points coming, solid shot to get an auto bid) Cathedral 138 (big points coming will probably keep them in auto bid territory or very near) Next in line: Zionsville 138 (limited scoring from here on out; long shot for the 180 to 185 needed; vote-in consideration possible) Carmel 135.0 (limited scoring from here; long shot) Center Grove 134.0 (very long shot with only 4 guys left) Jennings County 134.0 (a dark horse candidate; 11 guys left: two #1 seeds and 5 of the 9 others drew Bloomington S. regional opponents, the weakest of the 3 they could face) Hobart 132.0 (chance at vote-in spot is probably max potential) Castle 126.0 (same as Hobart) South Bend Riley 124.0 (long shot) Mishawaka 124.0 (long shot) Avon 121.0 (numerous seniors finally get to score big points; could make a late push toward a big score or at least vote-in consideration) New Castle 116.0 (long shot) Bloomington North 116.0 (long shot) Elkhart Memorial 116.0 (chance at vote-in level and outside shot to push Carroll for Ft. Wayne spot) Hamilton Southeastern 116.0 (will score some points, but only 7 guys left means they need a great day Saturday) Crown Point 114.0 (same as Avon) Merrillville 113.0 (same as Avon and Crown Point) POSSIBLE RE-CLASSIFICATION MOVEMENT affecting 3A: Only New Palestine. Currently at 128 in 3A scoring system, with 6 solid guys left. They would have a potential shot at vote-in consideration, though an auto bid would be unlikely if they move up. Class 2A Semi-state automatic bid leaders: Delta-178 (Ft. Wayne), Mt. Vernon-Posey-174 (Evansville), New Palestine-174 (New Castle), West Lafayette-152 (Merrillville) General picture: Ft. Wayne and Evansville races don't really matter because their winners will also be in overall automatic bid territory. Whatever the case, Delta, Mt. Vernon, and New Palestine (if they stay in 2A) are all virtually assured of automatic bids one way or another. Merrillville race: Although West Lafayette may not end up in overall automatic bid territory, the Merrillville 2A race is virtually over. Outside of Delphi getting 4 state champs or Plymouth moving down from 3A and getting a few state champs, there's no scenario where West Lafayette doesn't get a bid. New Castle race: With some class movement and an awful performance or two, there's a slim chance this champion matters. If New Pal moves up to 3A and New Castle comes down, it could come down to South Dearborn trying to hold off Southmont, New Castle, North Montgomery and Lebanon. But in almost every scenario, this champion is in overall auto bid territory anyway. Current Wildcard Standings (6 automatic bids, 2 additional vote-ins): About 155-160 needed to get an automatic wildcard bid. About 140 needed to get into voting consideration. On Saturday, underclassmen score 5 points for first round wins and seniors get 2. Everyone gets 2 for second round wins in 2A. There is somewhat less drama here than in 3A. Bellmont 176 (lock to qualify automatically) Yorktown 172 (lock) Evansville Memorial 170 (probably a lock even if they do nothing more) South Dearborn 160 (probably only 5 more points puts them at lock status; they've got 9 guys to work on that this weekend) Southmont 157 (Could use another win or two. New Castle could come down and Oak Hill could move up, both of which could jump Southmont, in addition to a couple teams from this list. There's a very good chance they will move down to 1A though.) Jimtown 148 (Definitely in a battle with teams listed below...need a good weekend from their 6 guys.) From the list below, Leo through Franklin County all have a legitimate shot to break into the top 10 and get an auto bid, but they need to go to work this weekend. Gibson Southern and Columbia City could have an outside shot. The others listed here are long shots for auto bids, but have legitimate chances to get into voting consideration. All others in 2A are eliminated or are significant underdogs to reach any qualification level: Leo 144.0 North Montgomery 144.0 Lebanon 144.0 Franklin County 139.0 Gibson Southern 136.0 Garrett 135.0 Columbia City 134.0 NorthWood 132.0 Hamilton Heights 129.0 Peru 120.0 POSSIBLE RE-CLASSIFICATION MOVEMENT affecting 2A: Oak Hill and New Castle would both be at 150 if they moved up from 1A or down from 3A, respectively. Both would be in strong contention for automatic bids and would be locks for at least vote-in consideration. Jay County would be at 134 and Roncalli at 130 if they moved down from 3A. Both would have a shot to get into vote-in consideration. Class 1A Semi-state automatic bid leaders: Prairie Heights (Ft. Wayne), Monrovia (Evansville), Bremen (Merrillville), Knightstown (New Castle) None of these 4 semi-state races really matter since all 4 of these teams are locked into overall Top 10 positions anyway. Even if 3 contending teams moved down from 2A to 1A and none of these 3 scored any more points, they'd still be Top 10, no matter what. Prairie Hts. and Knightstown could get passed by others in their semi-state, but again, it doesn't matter for earning an automatic position. Current Wildcard Standings (6 automatic bids, 2 additional vote-ins): Because of what I mentioned above about semi-state auto bids not mattering here, it's simple that you just need to be in the Top 10. Here is detailed analysis of current rankings and exactly what has to happen for each team listed to be Top 10, INCLUDING TEAMS THAT COULD BE RE-CLASSIFIED INTO 1A: Note: Underclassmen score 3 points for first round semi-state wins and 1 more point for second round wins. Seniors are finished scoring in 1A. 1 Prairie Heights 217.0 2 Oak Hill 205.0 (Top 10 lock if they stay here; some chance of moving up to 2A) 3 Adams Central 202.0 (lock) Southmont 196.0 (currently 2A; significant chance of moving down; small 9th/10th grade classes from previous data; lock if they're in 1A) 4 Monrovia 193.0 (lock) 5 Bremen 186.0 (lock) 6 Knightstown 171.0 (lock) 7 Centerville 160.0 (significant chance of moving up to 2A; large 9th/10th grade classes from previous data; virtual lock if they stay) 8 Triton 159.0 (lock UNLESS two teams come down & are ahead of them AND no one significant goes up AND Eastern Hancock passes them) Southridge 159.0 (currently 2A; very small chance of moving down; 1 SS victory to be a lock if they come down ) 9 Eastern Hancock 157.0 (own tiebreaker over Triton and Tecumseh; lock UNLESS 2 teams come down AND they don't pass Triton or Centerville) 10 Tecumseh 157.0 (finished scoring & can't pass or be passed by current 1A teams; need # of teams ahead of them to stay the same or less) Delphi 156.0 (currently 2A, but some chance of moving down; 5 underclassmen still alive; 1 victory makes them a lock if they're here) 11 Winchester 150.0 (finished scoring; need # of teams ahead of them to decrease) 12 Attica 149.0 (1 guy alive. If he wins, need # of teams at Tecumseh level and higher to decrease by 1. If he loses, need list to decrease by 2.) 13 Churubusco 147.0 [Need their 1 underclassman to go to state (Winchester owns tiebreaker over them) & Attica's guy to lose & top 10 list to decrease by 1] These schools are still alive for vote-in consideration, but need 12th place to be 15 points or less ahead of them. Lake Station is finished scoring and they are locked into vote-in consideration--no more, no less. Absolute minimum situation for others is Lake Station in 12th and others needing 129 points to be alive. More likely, 132-135 will be needed: 14 Lake Station Edison 144.0 15 Milan 132.0 16 Elwood 132.0 19 North White 129.0 20 Fremont 128.0 25 North Miami 116.0 POSSIBLE RE-CLASSIFICATION MOVEMENT affecting 1A: See above list (Southmont, Southridge, Delphi).
  18. Here are the official selection procedures for next year's event. Two important notes: 1. An early-round multiplier will now be used for all three classes (though the impact in 3A will be very minimal compared to the other classes...last year's automatic selections would have been the same, but a couple more deserving teams would have been involved in Wildcard voting). 2. COACHES: BE SURE TO READ THE UNDERCLASSMEN INJURY PROVISION. IF YOU HAVE A SOPHOMORE OR JUNIOR THAT WILL NOT WRESTLE SECTIONAL, BUT WHO REACHED SEMI-STATE OR FURTHER LAST YEAR, YOU CAN GET HIS POINTS FROM LAST YEAR. READ DETAILS BELOW. 3. Addendum approved January 25: A bonus point will be given for 5th place at regional and two bonus points will be given for 5th place at semi-state for all three classes. 4. Addendum approved January 25: New enrollment figures released by the IHSAA in February will determine the classification of the 104 teams per class. Scores will be UNOFFICIAL and classification assignments will be PROVISIONAL until those numbers are released. Scores will still be published week to week, but special notes for scores of teams near class cut-off lines will be included. PDF version (much easier to read): http://indianamat.com/stuff/IHSWCADualsStateFinalsSelectionProcedures2013.pdf IHSWCA Duals State Championship Scoring System and Selection Procedure Scoring System approved and implemented by IHSWCA selection committee: Mike Day (Centerville), Zach Harper (Jeffersonville), Sam Riesen (Churubusco), Tyson Skinner (Madison), and Jim Tonte (Perry Meridian) Scoring System and Procedures developed by Adrian Troyer (Goshen ’96) and Nick Strub (East Central ’02). DOCUMENT CONTENTS: I. Number of Participating Schools (p. 1) II. Selection Procedure (p. 1) III. Base Scoring System (p. 2) IV. Adjustments to the Base Scoring System (p. 3-4) Appendix: List of Schools by Class (p. 4-5) I. NUMBER OF PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS A. Eight (8) schools will be selected from each of three classes (3A, 2A, and 1A) to participate in the Duals State Championship. B. For each class, one school will be invited as the top school from each of the four IHSAA individual semi-state locations (Merrillville, Fort Wayne, New Castle, Evansville). Additionally, four Wildcard schools will be selected as the next best four schools, regardless of location in the state. II. SELECTION PROCEDURE: The eight schools in each class will be selected according to the following four procedures: A. The top team from each class from each of the four semi-states will be selected and invited for the following season’s IHSWCA event based solely on points earned in the IHSAA individual state series (see Part III for scoring system). B. The first two Wildcard positions for each class will also be selected and invited to the event based solely on points earned in the individual tournament. C. The third Wildcard for each class will be chosen after the individual state finals by a Selection Committee vote from among 1) the highest scoring team not already selected and 2) any teams within 30 points (classes 3A & 2A) or 35 points (1A) of the given highest scoring remaining team. D. The fourth Wildcard for each class will be chosen after the third Wildcard vote from among 1) the highest scoring team not already selected and 2) any teams within 30 points (classes 3A & 2A) or 35 points (1A) of the given highest scoring remaining team. III. BASE SCORING SYSTEM: The following 2-part scoring system will be used to select the participants for the IHSWCA Duals Championship (Undergraduate Points PLUS Replacement Points). A. UNDERGRADUATE POINTS EARNED from the IHSAA individual state series, based on the following classed chart: Class 3A Class 2A Class A Sectional (no place) 5 6 9 Sectional (5th-6th) 6 7 10 Regional (no place) 13 16 18 Semi-State (1st Rd.) 17 26 28 Semi-State (2nd Rd.) 24 32 36 State (no place/8th) 36 37 39 State (6th-7th) 40 41 42 State (3rd-5th) 45 45 46 State Runner-up 47 47 48 State Champion 50 50 50 (Note: Underclassmen that did not wrestle at least 10 matches prior to sectional and do not advance to regional will earn zero (0) points) B. REPLACEMENT POINTS PROJECTED for new starters replacing seniors in the following season, according to the following formula: Number of Seniors in the Sectional Lineup TIMES Average Points Scored for All 14 Team Members TIMES Expected Replacement Level (see chart) Seniors 3A/2A Starter Replacement Level 1A Replacement Seniors 3A/2A Replacement 1A Replacement 1 0.80 0.72 8 0.55 0.45 2 0.76 0.68 9 0.52 0.42 3 0.72 0.62 10 0.50 0.39 4 0.68 0.59 11 0.47 0.37 5 0.65 0.55 12 0.45 0.34 6 0.61 0.52 13 0.42 0.32 7 0.58 0.48 14 0.40 0.30 IV. ADJUSTMENTS TO BASE SCORING: The following adjustments will be made to the base scoring system for the purpose of competitive fairness. A. An Early-Round Multiplier will be used to adjust all classes’ points according to this description: 1. The multiplier is calculated using last season’s Duals State Finals qualification scores for each team. The multiplier will adjust teams’ scores to reflect their proper value as if they wrestled in an average quality sectional and regional. The multiplier for each sectional reflects weight from both the sectional in question and the opposite sectional of that sectional’s regional. Values are capped at 1.35 and the lower limit is 0.75. 2. The multiplier will adjust only points earned by Sectional Non-Placers, Sectional 5/6, Regional Non-Placers, and Semi-State first round losers. 3. These values will be used for adjusting all classes’ base scores in 2013: Sectional Multiplier Sectional Mult. Sectional Mult. Sectional Mult. E. Chi C. 0.92 Elk Mem. 1.17 Craw-ville 0.86 Avon 1.35 Calumet 0.87 Westview 1.10 Zio-ville 1.34 Mooresv. 1.35 Crown Pt 0.99 Carroll-FW 1.35 Ham. Hts 0.96 Northview 1.03 LaPorte 0.87 NewHaven 1.35 Indy Arl. 0.96 Southridge 0.75 Mishaw. 1.25 Peru 0.75 Indy NW 0.99 Jen’gs Co. 0.87 Plymouth 1.13 Oak Hill 0.75 Warren C. 1.22 Jeff’ville 0.75 Twin Lks 0.85 Jay Co. 0.86 Shenan. 0.75 Castle 1.35 Laf Jeff 0.84 Delta 0.77 S. Dearb. 0.85 Ev. Cent. 1.30 B. An underclassmen injury provision will be used. 1. If a current sophomore or junior who reached at least semi-state level in the previous season is injured and does not wrestle at all at sectional, his team will be given his previous season’s points—minus the team’s calculated replacement value (see Part III). 2. The wrestler in question must have wrestled at least 10 matches during the season OR have a scanned image of a doctor’s note stating that the wrestler is expected to be healthy for the 2013-14 season. 3. The coach of the wrestler in question must submit an email by Wednesday, February 13, 2013, to alert IHSWCA Data Managers of the issue, so that points can be adjusted before selections are announced. Email to Adrian Troyer (atroyer@swissmail.org) the following: 1) School name, 2) Coach’s name, 3) Wrestler’s name, 4) Wrestler’s current grade (sophomore or junior), 5) Injury description, 6) 2011-12 record and advancement level, 7) 2012-13 record, 8 ) Scanned image of doctor’s note IF LESS THAN 10 MATCHES wrestled in 2012-13 (see Item 2 above) 4. Wrestlers who do not wrestle sectional due to missing weight or being disciplinarily or academically ineligible do not qualify for this provision. (The nature of a wrestler’s absence from the state series will be verified.) Last year's numbers for reference http://indianamat.com/messageboard/index.php/topic,21576.0.html
  19. POSITION FILLED We are in need of one volunteer data manager to join our team for the upcoming individual state tournament series. Data from the 4 weeks is used to compile the qualification scores for the IHSWCA Duals State Finals next season. Responsibilities are the following: -Collecting and inputting results for all wrestlers from all teams of one semi-state for the 4 weekends of the individual state tournament -Working with another data manager for your assigned semi-state to be sure all data is researched thoroughly -Getting data turned in by the beginning of each week following Saturday's results Total time investment: 20 hours or less (approximately half of that immediately after sectional Saturday...the other weeks become much easier) Desired qualifications: -College graduate -Background in something math-, finance-, or programming-related (detailed and organized person needed!) -Good experience with Excel Please send me a personal message with your name, email address, and qualifications if you're interested as soon as possible! I will email you further details later. POSITION FILLED
  20. Below are the OFFICIAL standings after regionals for all teams. There were a number of errors from the sectional scores that were adjusted for this round. Some notes: 1. The 3A standings are still very irrelevant unless you're below about 140 points. Virtually everyone else has a chance to get into contention. You'll need about 280 points to get an automatic berth and about 250 to be in contention for the voting on the last 2 positions. Some surprise teams from relatively weak sectionals/regionals will have a very difficult time keeping up with the pace of the huge points that will go on the board starting this week from the powerhouses. 2. The 2A standings will be VERY interesting this week because a few teams from relatively weak sectionals (jasper, yorktown, peru, for example) have large number of underclassmen at semi-state. If any of them win their first match, the multiplier comes off of that wrestler's score and they get an enormous leap in points. Meanwhile, the top few teams will be virtually stationary no matter what happens this weekend because of bonuses already built into their scores. 3. Remember again: These scores tell us who will be a good duals team NEXT YEAR. It doesn't matter if you beat a team in a dual meet this year if you have 7 or 8 seniors. You have to prove you're going to be good next year through mostly the performance of your underclassmen. 4. DON'T FORGET TO SEND AN INJURY REPORT TO COACH DANIEL STRUCK IF A CURRENT SOPHOMORE OR JUNIOR WHO MADE SEMI-STATE OR BETTER LAST YEAR COULD NOT WRESTLE SECTIONAL THIS YEAR DUE TO INJURY. SEE THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE STICKIES AT THE TOP OF THIS DISCUSSION BOARD. ADJUSTED DUE DATE IS NOW FEBRUARY 16. Here's the selection procedure document again for your reference: http://indianamat.com/stuff/IHSWCA_Duals_State_Finals_Selection_Procedures.pdf *--In position for a semi-state automatic berth. $--In position for one of the two automatic wildcard berths. Class 3A Teams Total *Lake Central 218.53 *Bloomington South 212.12 *Indy Cathedral 211.68 $Perry Meridian 203.12 $Floyd Central 199.00 Portage 194.82 Crown Point 189.58 Franklin 186.66 *Elkhart Memorial 183.73 Merrillville 179.67 Hamilton Southeastern 178.46 Ev. Mater Dei 177.14 Noblesville 176.35 Avon 176.21 Huntington North 169.99 Center Grove 168.57 Valparaiso 168.45 Penn 167.71 Kokomo 167.44 Connersville 166.23 Lawrence Central 165.48 Lowell 164.88 East Noble 163.87 Carroll (FW) 163.25 Greenfield-Central 161.46 East Central 161.03 Munster 160.80 New Palestine 160.77 Harrison (WL) 160.02 Fishers 157.80 FW Snider 154.93 Jennings County 154.83 Jeffersonville 154.41 Chesterton 154.38 New Haven 153.60 New Albany 152.02 Hobart 151.03 Mishawaka 149.71 Ben Davis 149.26 S.B. Clay 149.20 S.B. Riley 147.86 LaPorte 146.25 Warren Central 141.87 Terre Haute South 140.01 Brownsburg 138.79 Franklin Central 138.11 Westfield 137.25 Hammond Morton 134.32 Columbus East 133.32 Martinsville 130.82 Ev. Reitz 130.04 Zionsville 130.04 Columbus North 129.21 Castle 128.93 Mooresville 125.26 Roncalli 125.24 Warsaw 123.89 Plymouth 123.67 Lawrence North 123.32 Jay County 115.69 Kankakee Valley 115.16 DeKalb 114.52 Plainfield 114.00 McCutcheon 112.48 Carmel 112.30 Logansport 112.13 Goshen 111.39 Terre Haute North 111.15 Indy Arsenal Tech 110.00 Northridge 109.54 Highland 107.00 Northview 106.92 Ev. Central 105.25 S.B. Washington 105.06 FW Wayne 104.76 Seymour 104.06 Richmond 102.38 Pendleton Heights 101.57 Ev. North 97.43 Laffayette Jeff 96.61 New Castle 92.16 Marion 91.69 Ev. Harrison 90.85 Anderson 90.84 FW Northrop 90.52 Columbia City 90.37 Greenwood 86.65 Homestead 85.76 Bedford North Lawrence 84.67 Michigan City 82.37 S.B. Adams 78.16 North Central (Indy) 77.91 Shelbyville 75.99 Concord 74.76 FW South Side 74.05 Gary West Side 71.00 Elkhart Central 66.76 East Chicago Central 66.74 FW North Side 63.56 Decatur Central 55.81 Southport 47.57 Pike 45.84 Bloomington North 43.50 Whiteland 31.64 Mount Vernon (Fortville) 27.80 Class 2A Teams Total *Ev. Memorial 294.18 *Jimtown 266.23 $Heritage Hills 241.97 $Danville 240.00 Leo 236.67 *Delphi 205.32 *North Montgomery 198.02 Culver Academies 197.71 Benton Central 189.08 New Prairie 188.12 Garrett 182.81 Jasper 182.71 FW Bishop Dwenger 182.26 Southmont 181.03 Lebanon 180.35 Edgewood 176.40 Yorktown 176.34 Peru 175.56 Glenn 175.10 Muncie Southside 173.86 FW Concordia Lutheran 172.42 Rensselear Central 171.85 Indian Creek 171.84 FW Bishop Luers 168.24 Greencastle 168.08 Wawasee 162.16 Bellmont 155.88 Twin Lakes 155.11 Madison 154.74 Hanover Central 151.94 Boonville 149.12 Princeton 146.55 Western 146.08 Sullivan 145.80 Tippecanoe 145.36 Woodlan 144.90 Angola 144.50 Cascade 144.12 Griffith 143.65 NorthWood 143.31 Washington 142.31 Western Boone 138.70 Indy Bishop Chatard 132.69 Gibson Southern 131.52 South Deaborn 130.46 Frankfort 125.13 Mount Vernon 122.15 Rushville 121.82 Charlestown 120.96 Fairfield 119.82 Whitko 118.41 Norwell 117.63 South Vermillion 117.34 Lawrenceburg 116.27 Calumet 115.70 Centerville 111.23 Lakeland 110.89 Greensburg 110.32 S.B. St Joseph's 109.74 Maconaquah 109.12 Hammond Gavit 108.16 Rochester 107.86 West Noble 106.84 Tipton 106.16 Brown County 102.45 Vincennes Lincoln 101.01 W. Laffayette 100.88 Hamilton Heights 98.98 Indy Howe Academy 97.10 Andrean 95.80 Delta 95.05 Pike Central 90.90 Mishawaka Marian 89.75 Tri-West Hendricks 87.66 Batesville 87.47 Scottsburg 85.98 Heritage 85.80 West Vigo 85.13 Indy Northwest 82.16 Crawfordsville 81.91 Franklin County 80.89 Mississinewa 80.50 North Putnam 77.10 Muncie Central 75.99 Eastbrook 71.69 Knox 69.24 Boone Grove 67.21 Blackford 63.78 Beech Grove 59.29 Guerin Catholic 55.93 Corydon Central 51.71 Mitchell 48.20 Indy Manual 45.82 Northwestern 45.43 Brebeuf Jesuit 44.08 Hammond 43.71 Owen Valley 42.72 Hammond Clark 41.24 Indy Broad Ripple 37.41 Ev. Bosse 33.83 Gary Wallace 26.18 Salem 24.35 Indy Arlington 12.96 Gary Roosevelt 12.73 Class 1A Teams Total *Adams Central 264.54 $Churubusco 222.89 $South Adams 212.87 *Bremen 193.51 *South Putnam 191.92 Cass 186.99 North Miami 186.34 Fremont 182.04 *Milan 175.10 Prairie Heights 172.73 Clinton Central 168.75 South Spencer 164.43 Oak Hill 161.61 Tecumseh 159.95 North Posey 152.43 Union County 151.15 Southwood 151.01 Central Noble 150.80 Shenandoah 149.25 Frankton 147.49 Winamac 145.82 Culver 144.60 Tri-Central 144.36 Union City 142.01 Southridge 137.77 Winchester 137.56 North White 134.39 Triton Central 133.41 Alexandria 129.59 Northfield 128.92 Elwood 125.79 West Central 125.50 Wood Memorial 124.79 Westview 124.56 Wapahani 122.85 Paoli 122.77 Eastside 121.51 River Forest 121.01 Seeger Memorial 120.68 Tell City 118.75 Cloverdale 117.83 LaVille 117.16 Indy Scecina 116.85 Lapel 116.47 Taylor 115.90 Manchester 114.60 Triton Central 114.49 Monrovia 111.95 Monroe Central 109.42 Hagerstown 109.01 Indy Crispus Attucks 108.60 Fountain Central 108.23 Wes-Del 107.25 Clinton Prairie 105.30 North Newton 104.73 Providence 104.31 Indy Cardinal Ritter 102.59 Eastern (Pekin) 102.53 North Vermillion 100.34 North Knox 98.00 Knightstown 97.64 Southern Wells 96.55 Carroll (Flora) 95.91 Lake Station Edison 94.17 South Newton 94.12 Sheridan 93.61 Covington 91.80 Southwestern (Hanover) 87.02 Forest Park 85.42 Northeastern 84.38 North Judson-San Pierre 81.93 New Washington 81.56 Speedway 79.65 Pioneer 78.51 Eastern Hancock 77.16 Rossville 75.99 Oldenburg Academy 74.59 Hammond Bishop Noll 73.43 Frontier 72.21 Caston 71.78 Cambridge City Lincoln 69.28 Eastern (Greentown) 66.50 Indy Washington 66.45 Tri 65.40 Rockville 63.99 Hebron 62.73 Christian Academy of Indiana 62.20 Bluffton 61.02 Blue River Valley 58.33 Attica 48.73 Laffayette Central Catholic 46.40 Switzerland County 45.15 Park Tudor 44.08 Randolph Southern 43.50 Turkey Run 42.30 Indiana School for the Deaf 39.96 Daleville 38.25 Whiting 34.19 Madison-Grant 25.85 Crawford County 25.60 Howe Military 21.19 Wabash 9.36 Indy Marshall 0.00
  21. Below are the standings after sectionals for qualification for the 2012-13 IHSWCA Duals State Championship event. A few notes: 1. Scoring systems are different from class to class, so don?t freak out that a small school has many more points than a big school. 2. The scores are much, much more dependent on your underclassmen?s success than on your seniors? success. So if you?ve got 7 seniors in your lineup, you may seem lower than you expected. 3. A multiplier is used for 2A/1A to even out the difficulty of sectionals/regionals for sectional/regional points. So you may have more points than another team despite advancing a couple less kids than them to regional. 4. The points for 3A are almost irrelevant at this point in the tournament because all the big points are yet to come. 2A and 1A points right now have some more relevance because they have typically advanced less kids and the later-round points have less effect proportionally. But they will still change very significantly. 5. Remember the top team from each semi-state in each class, plus the next best 2 scores from throughout the state, qualify automatically on points alone. 6. THESE POINTS SHOULD ALL BE CONSIDERED UNOFFICIAL. ABOUT HALF OF THE SCORES HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED AS OFFICIAL. 7. As we said before, this point system would have chosen all the correct top teams for this year's event, had there been one. 3A Standings: Lake C. 171.11 Bloomington S. 166.9 Cathedral 166 Floyd C. 163.57 Noblesville 162 Valpo 159.14 Perry Meridian 159 Portage 158.2 Avon 158.03 Munster 154.95 Franklin 153.71 Connersville 152 Elkhart Memorial 150 Lawrence C. 149 East Noble 148 Harrison WL 147.5 Huntington N. 147 HSE 147 Merrillville 146.1 Crown Point 145.8 Lowell 143.3 Jeffersonville 143.04 Center Grove 140.24 Ben Davis 139 Greenfield 138 E. Central 137 Chesterton 136.21 New Albany 136.11 Carroll 136 Ev. Mater Dei 135.46 Penn 134.91 Fishers 134 FW Snider 134 LaPorte 133.4 Hobart 133.3 TH South 133.24 Warren C. 133 Kokomo 129 Brownsburg 128.32 Jennings Co. 125.36 SB Clay 124.78 Mishawaka 124.1 Roncalli 122 2A Standings: Ev. Memorial 224.14 Heritage Hills 214.03 Danville 198.16 Leo 192 Jimtown 189 Muncie S. 174 Yorktown 172 Delphi 165 N. Montgomery 162 Benton C. 161 FW Concordia 160 Garrett 158 Dwenger 156 New Prairie 156 CMA 154 Luers 153 Lebanon 150 Edgewood 149.8 Boonville 149.12 Peru 145 Wawasee 145 Glenn 143 Princeton 142.12 Indian Creek 141.61 Woodlan 140 Greencastle 139.92 Tippy Valley 135 Delta 133 Jasper 130.9 Sullivan 129.07 Southmont 128 Angola 126 Hanover C. 125 W. Boone 123 Madison 121.98 Twin Lakes 121 S. Vermillion 116 1A Standings: Adams C. 204 Churubusco 199 South Adams 182 South Putnam 178.12 Fremont 171 Winchester 171 Bremen 171 Pr. Heights 160 C. Noble 160 Tecumseh 159.95 Clinton C. 154 Wapahani 153 Cass 153 N. Miami 148 Oak Hill 143 Frankton 140 Milan 139 S. Spencer 137.14 Winamac 136 N. Posey 135.66 Southwood 135 Wes-Del 134 N. White 134 Westview 133 Triton C. 133 Tri-Central 132 Union Co. 131 Culver 129 Shenandoah 125 Wood Memorial 124.79 LaVille 124 Tell City 118.75 Cloverdale 117.83 Scecina 117 Southridge 116.8 Elwood 115 Triton 115 Monrovia 111.95 Seeger 110 West C. 107 Paoli 105.93 Providence 104.31
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