BeastMode#31

Corsaro...WOW...hungry for a state title!

Nice work. Thanks!

Micic vs Boston

I'm going to New Castle otherwise I would be  all over your offer.

Good food and an opportunity to support a wrestlers business...win win situation.

Agreed. Even fantasy IHSAA can't make sense.

Haha...thanks for the updates. Gonna be some good action at CG in a few weeks....can't wait.

Team State Pairings

Franklin vs. Penn

Perry Meridian vs. Merrillville

 

Ev. Mater Dei vs. Carroll

Yorktown vs. Cathedral

Why do they not seed the finals? It wouldn't be that hard to do, but I guess the IHSAA doesnt care. They are only worried about crowning the champ. Lol

Franklin and Penn should meet in the semi finals at the earliest.

I LOVE LAMP

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Center Grove (way) North...errr...I mean Cathedral is tough...should be the favorite.  Sorry Big Bob...couldnt resist.

 

PS do u really love the lamp?

"He was right for the beating, but you didnt want to beat him, you didn't want to beat him, you didn't want to beat him!"  -Dan Gable

I use to be for one division only. That was coming from a wrestler point of view in high school.

After my first 3 years of college wrestling I then understood why classing would be better for Indiana. Good Indiana wrestlers are not getting enough exposure for college coaches to see and recruit. Especially without wrestle backs It hurts indiana kids even more. If no wrestle back then at least do a class system.  I want to see more kids from Indiana go and wrestle in college. Some kids might only think about D1 wrestling and then not think they can wrestle in college. A kid might give it more consideration when they have a college coach calling them weekly and a class system would help.

I have heard many coaches on this forum say"sometimes kids have to recruit the college" instead of colleges recruiting the kids. I believe this holds true for our very good (but not great) Indiana wrestlers who don't have the tournament series success but are fundamentally sound wrestlers.

Does "making it to state" in class 3A or 2A make you a better wrestler ( more fundamentally sound, stronger, tougher, better college prospect) than being a semi state qualifier in a one class system? No, not in my opinion.(I.e.- It doesn't improve your skill level by having a more prestigious title...you still have to go prove yourself on the mat at all these colleges that are now going to magically recruit you because you are a classed state qualifier)

Do some leg work and make a video, contact some D2, D3, NAIA schools in Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky and if all else fails go walk on somewhere and prove your mettle.

Class wrestling will not grow our sport by leaps and bounds. Indiana is growing and proving itself as it is. It ain't broke...don't try to fix it.

How about so details.

First 1:30 both guys feeling each other out...

Then James gets in on a nice single leg. Wilson tries to turn and pull leg away and goes out of bounds in the process...fleeing the mat called (call could have gone either way IMO)

1-0 James after 1

Wilson chooses down and gets ridden by James the whole 2nd period ( only a couple times where Wilson threatened to get away). James is tough on top ( duh)

1-0 after 2

James takes down. I believe Wilson cut him (2-0 James) and they went neutral. Some good action on their feet by both. Wilson hits a snap and spins behind for 2 (Wilson has to be the quickest kid in the state). Wilson cuts James again (3-2 James). Then Wilson hits a similar move and spins behind again for 2 with approx 15 seconds left and rides him out.

Great match between two of Indiana's finest. Please correct me if I was wrong on how the match went down. That's what at recall.

I am not making any judgment one way or the other but this happened when I took my son to a wrestling clinic put on by a D-I coach.  My son registered and maybe the coach liked how he looked. He asked him if he made it downstate. My son said he made it to semi state. The coach then t speak to him the entire clinic. Were we next door in Michigan with what four classes and he made it to state from a small Division IV school maybe he would have shown some interest. He surely may have lost interest quickly but by "qualifying for State " at least he may have noticed.

That's just one example. I will say it is nice that the State Champ is the State Champ.

Did your son end up wrestling D1?

If not, maybe it was justified that he was snubbed by D1 coach. Most D1 wrestlers from Indiana are multiple SQs and usually state champs as well.

Great match yesterday between these two tough competitors. Definitely worth the price of admission.

Looking forward to a rematch possibly the next two weeks. Nice job fellas.

I'm not asking for pity.  I wrestled for a small school that is now a traditional powerhouse.  I had plenty of success individually as well as part of the team.  We didn't need the pity because we beat up on plenty of big schools.  But the fact remains, there were some years we could barely fill all 14 weights.  We would have kids starting because there was literally no one else his weight on the team.  You must be pretty dense to not be able to see the difference between that and rolling 3,4,5 deep at every weight.  Or, you could ignore that and go back to your circle jerk with Caliboy.

Although it would be nice to have big numbers, it is not necessary to compete.

BTW- Ive never heard State Champ Coach McCormick complaining about an unfair advantage.

Tonte vs Stewart

Didn't they have a close match already?

Been there done that no fun,

We should have gotten special treatment when we wrestled Perry and Warren and Carmel and Center Grove. We should have had our own class. It's not fair! Waaahhhhhhhhh

Thought so

I came from a school with no wrestling room. We rolled the mats out in the cafe every night and put them back up.

Produced plenty of state qualifiers, finalists, and a few champs.

But sorry to rain on your pity parade. Cry on..

We were talking about team success and the success of the regional as a whole moving on through the state series, not any specific individual.  If you can't understand having a larger pool of athletes, better facilities, and more coaches at bigger schools gives them a better chance to succeed, then I don't know what else I can say to convince you.

I don't understand...

Wilson

Here we go with the "class crap".  It's easy to call it crap when you come from a school 3,4,5 times the size of some others that you wrestle.

Still the same weight as the other guy...

Well after he wins regional then i'd say it's safe to say he would've made it out of the sectional as well.

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Counting sheep don't work if you got A.D.D. It goes 1 sheep, 2 sheep, dog, cat, pig. Old macdonald had a farm. Heeeeey Macarena!

Lol

Absolutely, positively, NO CLASSED SYSTEM.......man up or go play basketball...

Congrats to Micic and Boston.

Has anyone been to the Rose Bowl of Wrestling before?

Is it hard to get a ticket? I assume not since it is in Pitts field house. Just curious...

True ONLY when both sectionals are equal which in most all cases that is not. Therefore, wrestlebacks are needed. So while I disagree with you on that one, I agree they also need to be added to semistate. For the same "excuse" "reason" "argument" that they are eneded at sectional and at semi state, the same goes for regional...simply put.

Agree

No but Johnson did. The 2nd place kid from smileys sectional goes against the first place kid in Johnsons sectional in the semifinals

Johnson lost to first place kid.

Smiley lost to second place kid (different sectional) but not the first place kid in his sectional.

Slight chance...lol

You and maligned are probably right...