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  1. Closer than you might think.

     

    106 - HSE

    113 - HSE

    120 - CG

    126 - CG

    132 - HSE

    145 - ???

    152 - HSE

    160 - HSE

    170 - HSE

    182 - ???

    195 - HSE

    220 - CG

    HW  - CG

     

    If CG gets pins at their strongest weights (120, 126, 220 and HW) and HSE does not get ANY pins, CG wins (by my conservative count 31 to 29).  However, if HSE gets any pins and CG does not pin at 3 of their 4 strong weights, I do not believe CG can win.  Just my 2 cents.

     

    PS - my crystal ball likes CG's coach's intensity.  Sometimes it makes the difference.

  2. Dezmen McGinley  from Greenfield-Central also beat Niebarger today 8-6. He went 4-1 with a loss to Willis.

     

    G-C as a team went 3-2 with wins over logansport, north central, and union county and losing to champions and runners up HSE and Cathedral. G-C is now (17-4) on the year.

    todays notables

    119: Josh Farrell 5-0

    130: Dusty Mayhugh 4-1 (loss to Harvey of Cath)

    160: Dezmen McGinley 4-1 (loss to Willis of Cath)

    171: Ian Early 4-1 (loss to Mike Smith of NC)

     

    The McGinley loss to Willis was by fall in under a minute.

  3. Well maybe Neibarger shouldnt lay on his back and give up 4 points when he is only up by 2, so you can roll the tape on that!  ;D Such a good wrestler should know how to stay in good position with under a minute to go, Dezmen got the 4 cause he wrestled smart and capitalized on Neibargers mistakes. You can't take anything away from his win.

     

    I wasn't taking anything away from McGinley. He rolled into a position and capitalized. Good scramble. Timing was questionable, but good wrestling.

     

    Just like Willis capitalized on him by fall in under 1 minute.

     

    Calm down.

  4. #15 Dezmen McGinley (160) of Greenfield Central beat #6 Austin Neibarger of HSE today 8-6.  He lost to #2 at 171 Tyler Willis from Cathedral by fall. He is (25-2) on the season.

     

     

     

    Neibarger v McGinley came down to an end of the match "4 pt move" in favor of McGinley.  Roll the tape on that one . . .

     

    Willis over Neibarger 4-3.

  5. It was a very good match.  Both of them got banged up pretty good and Tyler was hampered with a calf cramp for most of the match and later I noticed that Taylor was cramping up in the third period also.  Both of them ended up with taped up heads and both left everything out there on the mat.  Very good match that went right down to the end.  It was a battle, no doubt......Taylor was very hard to score on for sure (good wrestler).

     

    Did anybody tape this match?  Would love to see it out there somewhere . . . .

  6. I think RankingsGuy should use the same criteria they use for college wrestling.  Oh, wait, he does!  :D

     

    I appreciate all ofthe RankingsGuy's hard work, thought and effort.  Unlike most involved in rankings in any sport, he is willing to explain his logic. 

     

    Give the guy some credit, this isn't his first stab at ranking wrestlers in Indiana . . . . .

  7. McCray did not get cheated out of the finals.  He just got beat.  It is different when your dreams are shatterd because of bs reasons.  He did not get the chance to prove himself it was taken away by a bad coaching decision.  We need to stop this situation from ever happening again.  I can already see teams taking fake injuries into the state tournament for years to come.  I will call it as I see it and this kid was not hurt.

     

    This guy is absolutely amazing! 

     

    One of the best and unbiased referees this State has ever seen was there and explained to all of us the situation.  Yet, this guy continues to complain and groan. 

     

    Duck, I don't know you, but you are doing a disservice to Indiana wrestling.  I hope you will look back on this situation and realize that your comments crossed the line -- maybe even apologize for your comments.  If I could penalize anyone for unsportsmanlike conduct, it would be you.

     

    You have lost all credibility on this Board. 

  8. I think Andre Butts and Mike Taylor from LC will qualify for state. Mike has already beat the cathedral kid twice

     

    I am sure that the Cathedral kid beat Mike in the dual.  So, they each have a win agasint the other.  Ought to be a good match if Mike can get past Manning in the ticket round.  That is a tall order.

  9. Your right I'm sure that's what they thought when they left the 14% out of the Jay County Regionals. No big deal as long as it's fair for "most" of the kids... We all know how well that turned out.

     

    JAG:  I understand your knee-jerk reaction.  But, by redrawing, you are hurting the majority of wrestlers (all currently bracketed-wrestlers, in fact) who are actually preparing for their matches with strtaegy, moves, etc.  Unlike the "no-opportunity" issue with the Jay County situation, everyone here gets an oportunity and a change hurts all other wrestlers.  I am sure that is not what you want -- unless you do not like your current draw for your Noblesville wrestler ? ? ? ?  Just sayin'

  10. I cannot see a redraw.  We are talking about one regional and, to the extent there are some "wrestle Brandon Wright or lose in Regionals" scenarios out there, we are talking about very few weight classes and one regional.  Kis are preparing for their matches.  So, stop huring the majority in fear of a few isolated incidents.  There will always be isolated incidents.  Let's move on . . . .

  11.    I don't see anyone beating Roach at 145.   Also a reply to someone that said if Willis opens up his offense

       

    he will win 160.  I have seen Willis wrestle 2 matches in the last 2 years  Last year vs Mark Myers at the Traicoff

     

    Myers won 4-1.  Willis did show a good defense since Myers had pinned everyone til then.  This year I saw the

     

    McMurray match which McMurray won 1-0.  Where is the offense?

     

    I guess this is not going to be a real debate given that you have only seen Willis wrestle twice -- once as a frosh and once as a soph against a two-time state champ. 

     

    Simply, Willis did not wrestle his style against McMurray.  If you have seen Willis wrestle other matches, you have seen dominating offense and amazing athletic ability.  Nothing against McMurray -- he is a great high school wrestler. 

     

    I would hope as a wrestling fan (or former wrestler) you can appreciate that a young wrestler's second bite at a hyped opponent is always better.  The nerves are gone and confidence helps the wrestler perform better.  With a 1-0 first match, I can't wait to see the second match.

     

  12. 103: Phillips

    112: Campbell

    119: Lovejoy

    125: Wright

    130: Tsirtsis

    135: Norton

    140: Porras

    145: Roach

    152: Bennett

    160: Willis

    171: Duckworth

    189: Atwood

    215: Cleveland

    275: Travis

     

    This appears to be the most reasoned approach of the ones I have seen.  My only change would be at 112 -- I would go with Beck.  Nothing against Campbell, I just don't think he can beat Beck in the tournament.

     

    Also, I think 160 lbs will have the best match of the tournament.  If Willis opens up his offense, the match will be physical.  On that front, I like Willis' odds.

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