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The moderators never need to offer an explanation for the deletion of posts.  If a post is removed it is because it does not lay within the spectrum of what this board and website was designed for.

Thanks y2. I'll remember that it's your board and you will cry if you want to.  I was simply hoping that if I didn't post within the parameters, you could help me out so I didn't do so in the future.

Sitting in a tree stand or duck blind at dawn, seeing the mats on the floor at conceco, seeing a perfect lateral drop, bass fishing, Hooters hot wings, beer, Turoni's pizza, grilling on my back porch listening to the cardnals on the radio and drinking a beer. Besides my wife and my son those are my favorites.

I'll second the duck blind, bass(and trout, crappie,or bluegill)  fishing, Hooter's wings and brew on the porch, but will sub the White Sox for the Card's!

Karl,

Was that a picture of Coach Servies spanking Trent?  It looked like that guy was a member of the Sphinx Club.  Funny pic!

What grinds my gears is deleting posts with no explanation. Why won't Y2 return my calls? Why?!!  I feel so cheap. :'(

Wildcat,

At the risk of receiving many boo's, I for one enjoy the sarcasm.  Funny yet insightful while keeping people honest.  Keep it coming.

Fabio,

Refresh my memory, didn't you say it was all about the individual and now you post that you should keep the school?

As for staying on topic, I'm still a fan of the traditional EMD singlet.

Go to whatever school you want. If your passion is wrestling and you want to be a great wrestler and going to another high school will elp you acheive your goals I se no problem with it. Especially if it will help you get a chance to go to a good college. People need to stop complaining and just mind their own business.

 

Amen.  You need to run for office.

WOW!  How can I argue with such well supported and well articulated responses?

As a matter of fact, I think it is irresponsible for parents who have the means to send them elsewhere to send their children to such an incompetent failure of a school system.

 

This contradicts earlier statements about parent involvement.  Now you are calling it an incompetant failure of a school system.  Which one is it, a bad school or bad parents?

 

 

What would happen to these "bad" schools if the brightest students actually stayed rather than leave in droves?  Maybe schools could be rebuilt from the inside out with the leadership of caring parents and hard working students?

 

 

 

I think it is a question of chicken or egg, and I don't think it makes a differnce.  I mean there is Jaime Escalante and that Ron Guy and Morgan Freeman's character in Stand By ME, but when have these failing school systems ever been rebuilt?

 

I want to just state that I spent the first 6 years of my teaching career in failing school districts including the one we are discussing.  I am speaking from my personal experience.  I haven't seen any of the broken systems fixed.

What is the "broken system"?  If you taught there for six years, were you a part of the reason why these students were not succeeding academically?  In your own defense, I'm going to go ahead and say that was probably not the case.  Today's teachers are more highly trained than ever, including those in the inner cities.  Public education is free and there for the taking.  It's not the education system that is broke.  It is the mentality of entitlement and lack of family values that is broke.  This mentality is not exclusive to IPS. 

BTW, I may be wrong, but I believe Escalante was the teacher in "Stand and Deliver"

Nickster90,

If IPS is the reason kids are not succeeding academically, how do you explain the low test scores and discipline problems of those kids who are bussed from the inner city to the township schools?  It's not because the teachers are incompetent at IPS, it is because education is not valued in the home.

I am a nightmare walkin, psychopath talkin

King of my jungle, just a gangsta stalking.

 

Something for the fans of the old school!

What up Ice-T?! 

The Red Garter has great lunch specials!

Pav from Hobart?  Maybe it was his Senior year he hd 7 defeats?

See above...he had 5 losses. Maybe TAE can verify this for sure.

I would say Cathedral's 160 Tyler Willis, this kid is 14 wrestling against mainly Jr. and Sr.'s anda he is doing quite well I might add. He has knocked off some great competiton this year. It will be an exciting Friday night this week, let's see how he does at the State Finals. Good luck WIllis!!!!!!!!!

This kid fought off an inside cradle courtesy of a tough Greenfield Central kid like nobody I had seen before and never gave up near fall!  If he doesn't win a title or two before it's all said and done, I'll be surprised.  That was a gutsy performance for any kid, let alone a freshman.

Tony Abbott, Muncie South and Danny Coyne, Beech Grove

From Warren Central:

Joe and Jacob Wise - Cradle

Jon Lloyd - Inside trip (had a sweet cradle as well)

Danny Williams - Double leg

Richard Clevenger - Front Headlock

Jimmy Perry - Goofy Trip

Claude Robinson - Double Overhook toss

William Campbell - Wild Bill Roll

Nick Odom - Rolling Half

Nice list.  In addition...

Brian Cook-Barrel roll

Paul Robinson-sweep single

Rob Walke-HiC

Tom Collins-lateral drop

Matt Puckett-left handed headlock

Bacon (can't remember which one)-fireman's carry

I got one for you John Hurrle, Tecg High School!!!

 

I think he has been mentioned but I'll  give you a WAHOO anyway, great guy.  One that I'm not sure has been mentioned around the same era is Al Morgan. 

How many losses did Rob Pavletic (Hobart I believe - can't remember the year) have????

1989, 30-5

There are a lot of REALLY good college wrestlers from our state.  It would not be surprising if we had multiple national champs from our state this year.

 

It would be a huge surprise if we had multiple national champs from IN.  Escobedo is too banged up to repeat, I have a hard time believing that Tsirtsis will be able to get off bottom in crunch time, Kinser may AA, but he won't win, Howe is probably a year away.  Right now, I'd say Humphrey has the best shot, but he's in a very deep, tough weight class.  I guess if the stars aligned properly we could get multiple champs, but it's very unlikely.

 

Well multiple is two.  I don't think it would be a huge suprise with a returning champ another guy who was ranked first and a guy who is ranked second.  That being said, it would also not be surprising if we had none.

 

My point is that our state has produced some really competitive guys recently whereas we had very few competitive wrestlers in NCAA 5, 10, 15 years ago.  I can't think of any that I know of that were the elite.

I don't know what you would consider elite but guys like Campbell, Palmer, Ginther, Zirklebach, Sacksteder,Traviola, Keith Davidson, and Kelvin Jackson all had pretty good DI careers about 15 years ago.  Not to mention Ellis and McCubbins whose careers were shortened.

Out of respect for both coaches, I won't mention names but the weight class was 189. Neither coach would probably like to admit their behavior but both were passionate about their athletes and rightfully so.  I'll give you a hint, it was Northside vs. Southside.

what about beech grove didnt they beat roncalli in a close match this year cant count the hornets out either

Really? I haven't heard anything about them in years other than a few good indviduals.

I think they should add a #5, coaches wrestle first takedown wins the spot.

This was actually "suggested" by a young coach at the Marion County Tournament seeding meeting about 8 or 9 years ago.  I won't mention the two coaches involved. One has matured and the other has retired. Good times though!

Geoff Glogas-arm spin

Gans-front head lock

Kevin Helm- 2 on 1

Nice advertising for Chris Lynch with Alex warming up in the Pro Power T-shirt!

How about Lance Ellis I never saw him Live but from the results I've seen pretty dominate over 4 years

Nobody else ever had a chance.

An Iranian is where you shoot a double, and your head ends up on the inside after the sprawl.  As you come up from under, you bring one leg downward and the other leg you toss up and over to the side of the leg that you brought downward.  Someone else might be able to put this in words better than I did, but you get the idea.

 

Isn't this also called the Barsagar?

 

Probably.  I think that Iranian might just be the term handed down from Coach Kalver to the Bellmont and Bishop Luers programs.

we called it an iranian at laporte

 

Mansour Barsagar is a former World Champion and many time World and Olympic Team coach for Iran. And for what it's worth...he's a pretty good guy also.

Grecoref may be the most wrestling savy person on this board!

As far as I know, the Barsagar and Iranian are both finishes to the HiC. The Barsagar is a HiC to a double leg.  The Iranian is when you are in on a HiC, your opponent takes away the angle and you slide underneath, lift, and come out the back door.

Just to stay on topic for signature moves, Will Ragle and Paul Sullivan were both outstanding with the high crotch series.

Congrats coach!

When did he take over at Franklin?