MrUnbiasFWSS

There are times when you want to win the right way.  When I envision my kids winning in the ticket round, I NEVER envision them winning via laying down after getting cradled.

Whatever you say master. You know all. You do all right. You are perfect. Judge away.

Mr unbiase are you sure ur not mr luginbill in disguise

Nope. Just the only one here that isn't so quick to judge but quick to listen. So, yeah, the only unbiased one here. I just hate to see a bunch of grown men that are supposed to be role models rip apart a 16 year kid. Whatever makes you feel better about the outcome and yourselves... So, let's boo him. Seems right? A 16 year old kid makes a choice you don't agree with, so, instead of ever considering finding out the facts, caring about what he was thinking, you rip him while hiding behind a computer screen. Bravo men. Classy.

Oh ya his one point is the illegal cradle? And it was 2-1 at the end cause it was a one minute match.... not to sure that was sarcasm in ur previous post..

There is a reason there are 3 periods. How many times have you seen a person down 2-0 (let's assume the illegal move never happens and Luginbill doesn't get an escape) come back and win? Now, I am not saying that would happen, but I am not saying it wouldn't. Isaiah Bradley took down his guy in the finals today within 20 seconds. Sounds like it would be a blow out match. Ended up being 4-6 and his opponent had a chance to win it. No match is over.

He can still not accept the disqualification and let the other kid go on.

Again, why reward somebody who used an illegal move?

2 0  until the penalty point.  malcolm was hittin a cradle in the first minute of the first period.  wanted to set the time frame correctly.

Cradle ruled a bow and arrow and then the score was 2-1... wanted to set the time frame correctly.

Back in 2004 in the ticket round one of my kids picked up and put a kid down hard to the mat and ref ruled it an illegal slam.  Thankfully his coaches told him to get up and he wasn't going to win like that.

 

As a coach I love to win, but I like to win the right way.

You are right. I am all for winning the right way, but if the trainer ruled him out, he can't get back up and wrestle. He is done for that match.

Dude why are you so convinced it was close?? it was a minute into the match. I think everyone but you knows who wins that match. it wasnt close. It was a blown call. Malcolm got screwed. Luginbill got a free pass to state.

Oh, my bad. My memory must be fooling me. What was the score when the match was over? I believe (and I am right) that the score was 2-1. THAT IS A BLOWOUT! THAT MATCH WAS OVER!......................... Everybody but me knows that a 2-1 match in the first period is over. Wow...... I am one stupid old man.... (if you couldn't catch that, sarcasm was used in that post, dude)  :

was the trainer a vet - the kid didnt say anything like " i can wrestle"????

Would it matter? From what I hear, once the trainer shows up, it is his or her call.

Even if the trainer says he can't continue the coaches and/or the kid can decide to not accept a disqualification.  See the Heritage Hills coaches and their 220lber from last year at state in the quarter-finals for reference.

You are telling me that you would let a kid who used an illegal move (the ref ruled it illegal, a point was awarded) on you, that the kid should be rewarded? You are saying you should be rewarded for hurting somebody outside of the rules. Especially with the match being close, I don't think I could say I would say that I would throw away my dream for him.

If the choice was up to the trainer, I feel like everybody can agree that Luginbill wasn't to blame. If you're going to blame anybody, I would say blame the trainer if you think she doesn't know how to do her job. Maybe blame the ref if you think he made a bad call. Don't blame the kid. He did nothing wrong and everybody is jumping on his case.

the ref screwed up and the adams central kid played into it.  because the adams central kid was flailing around he torqued himself, nothing illegal.  no penalty point should have been given.  it should have been stopped for a potentially dangerous move.  i think he played into it because he wrestled so well his next matches - no way could he do that with a bad back!

So, then from what your saying, your saying Luginbill coaxed a license trainer that she should tell the refs he wasn't allowed to wrestle? I missed that. I mean, who knows how bad he was hurt, who says he wasn't telling the trainer he wanted to wrestle. It wasn't his call as soon as the trainer showed up, and after the trainer makes that call, how can you argue it?

I mean, if he is that much better, why run an illegal move. Malcolm probably was the better wrestler. No problem with that being said, but the refs did their jobs and the trainer did hers. Saying he got screwed, well, I guess he screwed himself. He is the one who ran the move.

Defending a kid that got booed all day... Ur right, I am biased. I am biased against jerks. No affiliation with either team, just pissed to see the way a kid got a bad rap for doing nothing wrong. Similar thing happened to me when I was wrestling. I just want justice.

he ran out of injury time from an apparent illegal move. Luginbill couldn't finish the match. Malcolm won his first wrestle back and Luginbill lost in the semis.

Luginbill also went on to place third. Also, I'd like to point out that the score was 2-1 (including the point for the illegal move). It wasn't like it was a match that was getting out of hand. It was still anybody's match.

To quote the Adams Central coach who knows the facts:

"I will explain what happened. Kaine injured his back in an illegal bow and arrow. Injury time started. The trainer came to the mat. She was evaluating him. The two minutes expired. The trainer would not let him continue. The match was 2-1 in favor of Malcolm in the first period. This is not a situation anyone wants to happen. The choice was made to accept the dq. He was cleared to wrestle the next round by the medical staff, so he did. As I said, a tough situation on both sides. One kid's season is over. How is it fair to end our season on an illegal move. Would have like to finish it on the mat. Please do not bad talk a kid.

Tony Currie

Adams Central."

So, what would you do to go to state? Run an illegal bow and arrow? Can one of you actually tell me that whenever a the trainer ruled you out of the match because the other wrestler deliberately ran an illegal move on you that you would let that wrestler go on? I mean, yeah, the situation sucked for both guys. I for one know I wouldn't reward somebody who hurt me with an illegal bow and arrow.

Jus didn't get how he was normal the next matches an if ur hurt that bad u wouldn't be able to wrestle jus sayin ...look at it two ways it looked faked because of that ..I hope it wasn't but that's the way it seemed...the move didn't look illegal just potentially dangerous so no point added. Point is he wrestled normal after the dq it don't make sence but Wat ever it will jus teach kids in the future on how to get to state an eiser way hah

Or teach kids not to run illegal bow and arrow moves? Also, as the Adams Central coach said, the trainer said he could not continue. Now, from that I concluded that it wasn't the wrestler's choice. Read into that as you want, but a licensed physician would not clear him to go on, regardless if he wanted to fight through the pain or not. Only he knows how bad he was hurt, so I am not about to say that he was faking.

From Ft Wayne: Yorktown Phillips. Crume -Jimtown Carroll-Yorktown LeFever -Carroll.

Agreed. These guys stepped up and tore it up. I was impressed with Crume in his championship match as well as LeFever. Both guys wrecked very quality opponents.

He didn't look hurt wrestling the next matches....he was laughing at one point an showin off to the crowd........?

I was talking the same thing over with some of my buddies I was sitting by. The question came up, how would you respond in that same situation? As a sophomore in high school, getting booed by adults, for doing nothing wrong. As an unbiased person, after hearing all the facts, I love the way he acted. He fed off the crowd, granted, holding up the 3 after he won may be a little much, but he is a sophomore. Let anybody who has never cocked off to people that are hating on them pass judgement.

I will explain what happened. Kaine injured his back in an illegal bow and arrow. Injury time started. The trainer came to the mat. She was evaluating him. The two minutes expired. The trainer would not let him continue. The match was 2-1 in favor of Malcolm in the first period. This is not a situation anyone wants to happen. The choice was made to accept the dq. He was cleared to wrestle the next round by the medical staff, so he did. As I said, a tough situation on both sides. One kid's season is over. How is it fair to end our season on an illegal move. Would have like to finish it on the mat. Please do not bad talk a kid.

Tony Currie

Adams Central.

Well said Coach. Thanks for clearing it up. It is sad to see the lack of class among so many fans today. Hearing that the trainer said he couldn't continue, there should be no argument here. Case closed.

Last year I think it was pretty clear Jay County was the best.  I think this year may be much tighter.

Agreed. I think there are a lot of swing matches, if you will, that will determine which regional is the best!

I heard he practiced all week then the Friday before regionals he just up and quit.

Idiot...

The Jay County regional is the only regional in the state with 2 team state champs. So, at this moment, I do think they are the strongest regional in our Semi-State.

106:

Lee (Garrett)

Pepple (East Noble)

McCormick (Yorktown)

Glogouski (Fairfield)

113:

Miller (South Adams)

Gayfield (Concord)

Knapp (East Noble)

Mock (North Miami)

120:

Glogouski (Faifield)

Moser (South Adams)

Ledford (Kokomo)

Chase Wilson (Maconaquah)

126:

Crume (Jimtown)

Walburn (Adams Central)

Cardenas (Carroll)

Martz (Fairfield)

132:

Fiechter (Southern Wells)

Baysinger (Yorktown)

Krumlauf (Dekalb)

Koebel (Jimtown)

138:

Carroll (Yorktown)

Loe (Peru)

Ellinger (Adams Central)

Weimer (East Noble)

145:

Walker (Yorktown)

Mckee (North Miami)

Jolas (Huntington North)

Wormcastle (Busco)

152:

Bradley (Muncie SS)

Brummett (Dekalb)

Gaddis (Kokomo)

Deters (Northridge)

160:

Malcolm (Carroll)

Hiestand (Yorktown)

Tredway (Elk. Central)

Hammersley (Peru)

170:

Lefever (Carroll)

Adams (Jimtown)

Linnear (North Side)

Reed (Muncie SS)

182:

Pfister (Adams Central)

Busse (Bellmont)

Evans (Bishop Dwenger)

Hazelet (Columbia City)

195:

Garringer (Jay County)

Ross (Northfield)

Green (Bishop Luers)

Tieshwan Johnson (Elk. Memorial)

220:

Nicodemus (Busco)

Wilson (Leo)

Miller (Kokomo)

Gerber (Bluffton)

285:

Hemmelgarn (Jay County)

Matt Beard (Eastside)

DeMuyt (East Noble)

Travis (Eastern)

Also i think the walburn (Adams Central) and Humphrey (Snider) could be a very good ticket round match..

I think Walburn beat Humphrey already didn't he? I thought it was like a 8-2 match or something like that.

The 120 matchup of Glogouski vs Phillips is going to be a crazy ticket round match. Bummer that one guy isn't going to make it.