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EMD vs. Bellmont.  Love this matchup based on history, fanbases, wrestling, etc.   

 

Glad we get to see it one more time.

I agree.  I wish I could be there to see it. 

I thought it is interesting that the Castle Sectional has 4 wrestlers that earned All State Honors and I believe the Evansville Sectional has 7.

 

Let's do the math:

 

Of the 13 SS qualifiers from the Castle Sectional, 30% are now All State

 

Of the 43 SS Qualifiers From the Evansville Sectional, 16% are now All State.

 

I just thought it was interesting after I read all this a couple of weeks ago.

 

 

Do you have any particular interpretation of these stats?  Or are they simply interesting?  Just curious.

You ppl make it sound like the 50's on this board. 

I love this particular argument.  Can someone please tell me what, in the name of all things holy and profane, this has to do with anything?  The 50's? 

whatever dude...

Good argument.  I stand corrected.

Definitely good. This is history right here and I'm all for it. And are we forgetting that miracle is only a sophomore? She's most likely gonna be in this same spot next year and maybe have a better draw and go farther in the tournament. Imagine having the first girl wrestling champion ever. That would be huge. I'm really pullin for this girl this year and in the years to come.

There are many things that make history.  That doesn't make them praiseworthy.  I have nothing against Kayla and she is to be commended for her hard work and dedication. However, as I have stated numerous times on this topic, none of that is relevant to the discussion.  Did she make history?  Yes.  Did she work her ass off to do so?  Of course.  Should she be commended for that? Yes (with a caveat).  Is it appropriate?  Is it good?  Is it right?  Hell no.  It is bad for so many reasons.  Reasons that I have argued ad nausaem.  None of the reasons people give in defense make a damn bit of difference.  They are secondary to the question of whether or not it is right .  And to come back to my original point, the fact that it is historical, or the fact that she worked hard, do not, in and of themselves, make it right.

Bad.  In every way. 

Anything on Wright and Suter?

For all of  you posting updates, I thank you!  I am eternally indebted to you.  I am giving you all cool points (whatever the hell that means, and for what it is worth).

You know I appreciate all the hard work she has put in but I still think there should be Boys Sports and Girls Sports..and she should be wrestling Girls....

I agree wholeheartedly. 

Thanks for the updates Cricket.  Keep them comin' please.

Yes.  Thank you very much.  It is greatly appreciated.

Anyone with consol updates?

What time do the finals start?

No scores yet?  Anyone?  Please?

It is my understanding that MV and MD cannot wrestle Blue  Spring because they are from Kansas City.  They are located more than 300 miles away. 

 

 

That's right.  I forgot about that rule.  That's ridiculous.

Why aren't things set up better so that MD wrestles Christian Brothers and both MD and Merrillville wrestle Blue Springs?  Those were clearly the four best teams, based on the scores, and only 3 of the 6 potential match-ups among them happened.  Worse than that, the probable championship (MD/CB) wasn't one of them.

I agree.  It seems rather odd for these teams to miss each other.  What's the point of going if not to hit that kind of competition.  Hopefully that is corrected next year.

Do we have any details yet?  For the love of all things holy please give us some details.

What's the schedule look like?  I would like to make it down for some/most/all of the tourney.

Carl Orff's "Carmina Burana".  While a little on shady side from a lyrical standpoint, the music is quite stirring. 

I think the MD theory of this  board can be summed up as "The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Fight Club! "

A fine theory indeed.

I would appreciate some news as well.  The results page has Heritage Hills and Southridge results, but nothing for the overall tourney results.

It took a couple tries and way too much cut and paste.  Join the club on the technical challenged bit.

Actually I just tried it again and it didn't work.  Not sure what I did wrong.

 

wow....how the heck do you make all those quotes and responses come up in one post like that?......yes i am technically challenged.....

It took a couple tries and way too much cut and paste.  Join the club on the technical challenged bit.  I think it takes me about three times longer to do anything on this machine than it would a normal person.  Short explanation: you have to put the little quote thing before and after each section.  So before it you would put

  and after it you would put

Just to be clear any boy who choose to wrestle a girl isn't any less principled than  the young men who chose not to wrestle a girl, they have different principles and choose to exercise them differently.One is not superior to the the other--just different.. Sarah has wrestled since 7th grade and reading through all the post I thought I had missed something that was going on ,on the mat , so I asked the person actually wrestling,  didn't assume it wasn't happening. Has NEVER had a fellow wrestler unprincipled enough to dishonor the sport and the intgredity of the competation to for lack of a better description cop a feel! While the young man in Iowa did what he needed to do to live up to his principles many boys uphold equally admirable principles when they walk on to the mat and wrestle the wrestler they face be it male or female.

I suppose that if we are using the term 'principle' very loosely to mean more or less anything someone does for a reason (or without one for that matter), then your statement may, in part, be true.  However, it should be clear from this thread that no one here (or very few) believes both sides are equally admirable. If we did, we would not be having this discussion. 

One is not commonly described as 'standing on principle' when one simply does what everyone else is doing.  You may be able to claim that the female wrestlers are standing on principle by doing what they are doing, though I would argue that those principles are poorly conceived.  So if you are going to argue that both sides stand on 'principle?, and if, for the sake of the argument I granted that point,  I would simply say that not all ?principles? are equal.  For example, The Westboro Baptist Church protests military funerals on the firmly held ?principle? that the US is evil, that the military is evil and that anyone who serves in the military is going to hell.  I would hope that we could all agree that their principles are poorly formed?  Obviously that is an extreme example.  I am not saying that these two cases are the same; rather, that simply doing something on ?principle? does not mean that the action is admirable. 

Furthermore, my opposition to co-ed wrestling is not based merely on the possibility of intentional misbehavior, but on the very thing itself as being inappropriate.  I don?t care if both parties are pure as the driven snow.  As I said before, I am morally, practically, and prudentially opposed to co-ed wrestling.

 If I'm not mistaken, you're with Mater Dei, right?  If so, do you happen to know if MD has taken a position on this issue?  Could have been a predicament with different pairings  at Team State considering Penn's 112, Sarah Hildebrandt.  Would MD give up 6 in a team tourney at state?  That's what it costs to be principled!

 

To the best of my knowledge, the Evansville Diocese (which Mater Dei falls under) does not permit females to compete in male contact sports.  So as far as a girl wrestling for Mater Dei, it is not going to happen.  However, I do not believe they have a policy regarding competition against them.  It goes without saying that I would support such a policy, even knowing that it could effictively eliminate MAter Dei from state competition.  That is the cost of being principled. 

He will be in our prayers.