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  1. Here is the link to the brackets from the tournament on Sunday:

     

    http://n010.trackwrestling.com:8080/tw/opentournaments/MainFrame.jsp?sport=wrestling&TIM=1351727713407&pageName=&ie=false&frameSize=706

     

    Highlights:

    5 of 7 placed in the top 3 in their weight classes.  There were 3 preseason top 20 teams at the tournament.

     

    125: Kaleb Barajas (Franklin Central) placed 3rd, was injured in the second to last match

    133: Justin Eshelman (Pendleton HS) was never losing a match when he got beat

    141: Chris Beck (Lincolnview HS in Illinois)

    197: Dominic Fimbianti (Munster HS) beat #7 @197 Dominic Walker from Mott TWICE by 7 to be tourney champ

    235: Colin Warner (Tipton HS) beat #2 @ 197 Carl Walker from Grand Valley 5-2 to be tourney champ

    235: Kyle Smitherman (Pendleton HS) placed third, losing to #2 in the nation by 7-2

    285: Tyler Melby (Westfield HS) placed second, losing finals in OT.

  2. We are on campus this year and will be competing.

     

    The president's name and contact information is:

     

    Colin Warner

    crwarner@bsu.edu

     

    We are part of the Great Lakes Conference (All National Collegiate Wrestling Association teams in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin).

     

    The club began to be run by an ROTC guy last year who simply could not run an organization, but was removed from the position and the club is student-run now.

     

    Our coach is Luke Register (former WTT Qualifier for the Marines).

     

    We are incredibly excited to compete this year, and the first scheduled tournament is October 27th and the next one is scheduled for November 10th.

  3. If you are coming to Ball State next year and want to keep wrestling, (Ball State does not have a collegate team) the Ball State wrestling club plans to compete this fall with other club teams in the North Central Conference (27 teams in our conference from north and south dakota, nebraska, minnesota, iowa, wisconsin, illinois, michigan, indiana, kentucky, and ohio), and then to go on to the NCWA national tournament. For more information on the association, go to ncwa.com.

     

     

    We do not discriminate on skill level or previous success so do not hesitate to come out.

     

    If you have any interest in continuing to compete in our great sport of wrestling, feel free to inbox me and I will get you more information!

  4. My Son Chris Morris will be a shock to everyone this upcoming season, after not being allowed to wrestle his freshman and sophomore year due to state qualifiers in front of him. 7th at folkstyle state , 4th a freestyle. just watch.

     

    I'm not trying to say your son isn't a great wrestler, but I was a Fargo All-American (5th), made the All-Junior Duals team in Oklahoma City (6-0), went 7-1 (with 6 pins) at the Scholastic Duals in York, PA, placed second at folkstyle state, won greco and freestyle state as a junior, and never placed at high school state.

     

    This kind of post simply sets your son up to have people rooting against him.  Let his success on the mat speak for itself, with all due respect.

     

    * this is in no way, shape, or form a post bashing you or your son.  I am just trying to let you know the difference of competition in the IHSAA state tournament vs. the off-season state tournaments

     

    Best of luck to you and your son this year though.  I love seeing the underdogs that no one saw coming succeed

  5. Y2 has had some controversial arguments in the past, but I cannot argue with his logic here.  How exactly has the IHSWCA gone about asking for a classed tournament and wrestle-backs?  I am asking because I honestly don't know.

     

    If it has been through proposing ideas to the IHSAA, that can be construed by the IHSAA as one of two ways:

    1. It can be viewed as proactive by the IHSWCA's part, or

    2. It can be viewed as disrespectful and seem like the IHSWCA is sort of going out of the way to make themselves heard.

     

    If it has been through asking what the IHSAA wants to see happen to make sure we can have a classed team state and wrestle-backs, I believe that would work better.  If this is the way it was done, than my argument is invalid; but again I have no background knowledge on how it was gone about discussing the implementation of a classed team state and wrestle-backs.

     

    What if we asked what the IHSAA would like to see from us to have a classed team state and wrestle-backs in five years?  Why don't we put together a plan, or contract with the IHSAA.  If we follow all the guidelines AND THE INTENTIONS of the guidelines without being conniving and trying to find loopholes, how can the IHSAA say no after the date decided by the contract?

     

    This is something that I think makes sense.  Thoughts?

  6. I'm pretty sure 120 was the toughest weight class.  3 nationally ranked kids.  

     

    126 was pretty ridiculous too.

    Kyle Ayersman 3X state champ (lost in the finals as a freshman, I believe)

    Cody Phillips 2X state champ, another place as well last year and woulda been fun this year if he would have been healthy

    Cody LeCount How many ISWA state titles? Has he placed nationally yet?

    Chandler Carroll 3rd as a freshman last year and nearly pulled a Petrov on Campbell last year in the semi's

    Nick Crume beat Carroll 5-0 in the semi state

  7. I agree that it is a safety thing.  Also, I think that insurance has a lot to do with it.  A lot of high schools have done away with gymnastics both as a sport and in physical education due to insurance.  Notice how very rarely you can find a rope hanging from a gym ceiling?  Insurance.  There is technically no such thing as a "slam" in Freestyle and Greco.  Therefore, when a competitor is thrown to the ground in a suplex, reverse body lift, etc., there can be some devastating blows to the body.  When a wrestler picks up his opponent in Folkstyle, the rulebook states that he must, "return him to the mat safely."  I am almost positive that these safety rules were put in place for insurance purposes.

  8. (coach at a JV tournament who's kid is on top)

    "Stay under the arms, stay under the arms, stay under the arms, stay under the arms, Stay Under The Arms, Stay Under The Arms, Stay Under The Arms, Stay. Under. The. Arms. Stay. Under. The. Arms. Stay! Under! The! Arms! STAYUNDERTHEARMS! STAYUNDERTHEARMS! STAYUNDERTHEARMS!" (kid goes over the arm and runs out in front for a front headlock . . . sort of and the wrestlers go out of bounds right next to the coach.)  "HEY! Do you know what prepositions are?!"

  9. I disagree...if you want to strengthen the sport you should be thinking about the attrition rate much, much earlier. At the elementary level, the attrition rate in youth wrestling is substantially higher than other sports, especially for first year wrestlers. I'd bet my house on that. Shoot, I'd say the percentage of new kids that leave wrestling DURING the season is higher than the attrition rate between seasons in Little League baseball, football, basketball, and soccer. Yes, wrestling is a hard sport, and I think life long wrestling folks like to point to that as the primary reason kids quit...but from what I have experienced that is not the primary reason young kids don't stick with it. In actuality it is the families that quit.

     

    I have seen many, many families drop wrestling because of the awful tournament experiences. They go to one or two tournaments and say enough is enough. There are some very good athletes with very committed and supportive families that leave the sport early. If my son didn't like wrestling so much you can rest assured that I wouldn't subject myself and the rest of the family to another Sunday in Hades. I'm not going to list the horrors of the Sunday wrestling experience (and I'm talking about the stuff not associated with the actual matches) because you all are familiar with them. This is coming from someone who didn't grow up wrestling so perhaps my view of the sport and the youth tournament experience is different that most of you. I respect the heck out of the sport and am in awe of what it takes to get good and stay good. I suppose I am representing the group of parents who could give two turds whether their kid becomes a state champion wrestler. Having said that, I hope that he sticks with it for a long time because there are so many positive aspects of the sport. In terms of the challenge and competition, there is no other sport like it.

     

    To me the solution to improving the attrition rate is to improve the youth tournament experience. If I had a vote, I'd say that splitting sessions (AM/PM) for the young kids and the older kids would improve the experience substantially for the kids and the families.

     

    IUPsych

     

    WOW! very well put

  10. Problem is, those other sports don't require the time and committment from COACHES that wrestling requires. We make a huge committment to wrestlers and they quit. The other thing unmentioned is the burn out rate is extremely high in wrestling. Wrestlers quit cause crazy mom and dad are dragging their butt to Michigan one week, then Tennessee the next, then Georgia a couple weeks later. Those insane parents will pay a heavy prices when nearly everyone of those kids just refuse to wrestle in high school.  Seen it a thousand times and it will happen to them. But magically the crazy parent knows better than nearly all the coaches with decades of experience out there.

     

    I understand you are partial to wrestling coaches, but I think it is rather unfair to say that no other sport's coaches are as dedicated as wrestling coaches.  Wrestling has their dedicated coaches, as well as their apathetic ones just like every other sport.  No disrespect, I just try to see from all perspectives.

  11. Couldn't the same be said about other sports?  Look how popular youth soccer, basketball, baseball, and football are. 

     

    Coming from a small town, I know we had about 15 Pee-Wee baseball teams to feed into two high school teams in my county of about 18 kids each.  On average, that's just more than 2 kids staying in it from the beginning.

     

    Soccer was the same way only with about 25 kids per high school.

     

    In basketball, there were probably 30 teams in leagues for a group of kids within four years of each other (the same age difference as a freshman to a senior) to fight for 15 varsity and junior varsity spots at two school.

     

    Football is not as great of an example, but the fall off is still really high.

     

    In all, I don't think this is characteristic of wrestling, but of youth sports to high school sports as well.  Can the same be said about College retention?  I think what it comes down to is that children find what their forte is and go to that.  The fact that there are limited spots on rosters doesn't help either.  Maybe this is just because I am from a small town, but I would think this is a pretty common trend

  12. I still don't think I understand your point with the Billy Baker hypo. Was it supposed to mean something relative to the Van Horn situation?

     

    It seems like you are saying people from Bellmont shouldn't question the Van Horn move from Franklin to Yorktown right before sectional at a weight that they had a definite disadvantage against Bellmont because Bellmont would be upset if a good wrestler from Bellmont transferred to Yorktown because his dad went there. What does that have to do with anything?

     

     

     

    No, I am not defending the VanHorn move-in.  I was arguing the post that was deleted as I was posting about when people wrestle Yorktown, they actually wrestle Yorktown, Anderson, Muncie, New Castle, and so on.  I was saying that if it is OK for Thatcher to transfer to Bellmont because he had a parent graduate from there and I was wondering if the same holds true IF Billy Baker were to transfer to Yorktown before his freshman year because his father was a state champion there.  Again, I am not taking any stabs here or disputing any move-ins on either side, I would just like for people to call a spade a spade, whether it is in your favor or not.  Yorktown has had move-ins, Bellmont has had move-ins, but those really didn't make the differences in the duals did they?  And this year, Bellmont came out on top when it mattered most.  And I give them my respect and I wish them well in the State Finals.  But my point of all of these hypothetical situations and comparing move-ins is to show that both schools have done the same thing.  

     

    That being said, again, kudos to Bellmont on a hard-fought, tough match-overcoming adversity and avenging a loss earlier in the year.  That is phenomenal.  Regardless of who did what, Bellmont won, so how about we stop pointing fingers and be the adults here.  What happens on the mat is all that matters.  With all do respect, this move-in talk got a little childish.

  13. The truth about Billy Bakers father is that he has lived in Decatur all his life.

     

    That is my fault then.  I apologize.  There is a banner in the wrestling room for a state champion and his last name was Baker.  I am blanking on the first name at the moment, but I was told it was Billy's father.  I apologize for being wrong.  Thank you for the clarification, bigbravenfan1

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