Naphtali
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Fantastic kid with college level skills. Watched him at Semi-State and was very impressed. Reitz has had some great wrestlers over the years and that kid earned his name in the mix as one of their all time best wrestlers.
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Great program & coaching staff. The X factor is not so much. I know each school has its obnoxious fans but they are generally exceptions to the rule. At MD I think it is the rule.
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I watched him at Evansville Semi State and was impressed as ever with this kid. He beat Lahue and the year prior beat DJ Smith twice. I honestly think he was good enough to knock off Red this year but came down with an illness in Indy and was admitted to the hospital. I never heard what happened with him and hope he is okay. Anyone have info on how he is doing?
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I think Red pinned everyone through the entire tournament series except a couple guys, Forrest being one of them.
I was in Evansville for Semi State and watched Brock Hudkins wrestle. He handled Lahue with shocking ease. Lahue was a favorite to knock off Red. We might have a totally different thread here had Hudkins not fallen ill. We might be talking about Reds first high school loss.
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Chad Red is a great wrestler. He has achieved 2 titles in his first 2 years of high school and that is a great accomplishment. If C. Red and N. Lee were to meet up there is no doubt in my mind C. Red would be completely overwhelmed by N. Lee. I think that the best shot for C. Red to beat a Lee would be against the younger Joe Lee who is coming up next year. But his odds at winning against the younger J. Lee are not that much greater considering J. Lee has as great a resume to his credit as his older brother Nick. I hope we get to see some sort of Lee vs Red match up next year.
I don't see Red or either Lee running from each other should they end up in the same weight.
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Mater Dei- Top Wrestler by Weight, Each Wrestler May Appear in Only One Class
95 Pounds: Larry Pendley- 4th Place, 1962 Regional
98 Pounds: Dan Burch- 1979 State Qualifier
100 Pounds: Greg Schaefer- 1995 State Champion
103 Pounds: Gabe Zirkelbach- 1988 State Champion
105 Pounds: Mike Happe- 1986 State Runner-Up
106 Pounds: Will Egli- 5th Place, 2014 State Championship
107 Pounds: Tom Cartwright- 1970 Sectional Runner-Up
112 Pounds: Chip Elderkin- 1986 State Champion, Craig Weinzapfel- 2001 State Champion
113 Pounds: Mitch Lehman, 2013 Semi State Qualifier
119 Pounds: Rusty Head- 1991 State Runner-Up, Alex Weinzapfel- 2008 State Runner-Up
120 Pounds: Alex Johnson- 6th Place, 2014 State Championship
123 Pounds: John Cartwright- 1970 Regional Qualifier
125 Pounds: Scott Schaefer- 1996 State Runner-Up
126 Pounds: Nick Lee- 3rd Place, 2014 Championship
127 Pounds: Steve Moore- 4th Place, 1965 State Championship
130 Pounds: Bart Zirkelbach- 1990 State Runner-Up
132 Pounds: Bob Dezember- 1985 State Qualifier, Tim Mayer- 1986 State Qualifier, Blake Jourdan- 2014 State Qualifier
133 Pounds: Jerry Head- 4th Place, 1959 State Championship
134 Pounds: Brad Folz- 4th Place, 1995 State Championship
135 Pounds: Craig Elpers- 1992 State Runner-Up
137 Pounds: Mike Goebel- 4th Place, 1970 Sectional
138 Pounds: Buzz Mieras- 1986 State Champion
140 Pounds: Matt Conkling- 2002 State Runner-Up
142 Pounds: Mike Bishop- 4th Place, 1995 Sectional
145 Pounds: Fred Happe- 1964 State Champion, Chris Wildeman- 1981 State Champion, Bret Schnur- 1987 State Champion
151 Pounds: Tim Ritzert- 1995 Semi State Qualifier
152 Pounds: Matt Armentano- 1993 State Champion, Dustin Nosko- 2003 State Champion, Matt Coughlin- 2004 & 2005 State Champion
154 Pounds: Jim Seibert- 1953 State Qualifier
155 Pounds: John Schroeder- 1978 State Runner-Up
160 Pounds: Nick Mayer- 1996 State Champion, Allen Weinzapfel- 2001 State Champion, Sam Wildeman- 2003 State Champion
165 Pounds: Don “Ape” Scheller- 1954 State Qualifier, Tom May- 1956 State Qualifier
167 Pounds: Gerard Boots- 4th Place, 1972 State Championship
170 Pounds: Bennet Kempf- 8th Place, 2014 State Championship
171 Pounds: Blake Maurer- 2003 & 2004 State Champion
172 Pounds: Jeff McDurmon- 1995 Semi State Qualifier
175 Pounds: Paul Hamilton- 4th Place, 1962 State Championship
177 Pounds: Tim Boots, 1980 State Champion
180 Pounds: Steve Pfister, 1968 Regional Qualifier
182 Pounds: Dalton Brandenstein, 6th Place- 2012 State Championship
185 Pounds: Andy McDonald, 1995 State Runner-Up
189 Pounds: Jacob Schneider, 3rd Place- 2008 State Championship
195 Pounds: Dane Maurer, 3rd Place- 2012 State Championship
215 Pounds: Zach Goebel, 2007 State Qualifier
220 Pounds: Evan Collins, 2012 Semi State Qualifier
Heavyweight: Bill Trainer, 1953 State Champion
At Large: Craig Macke- 4x State Placer
At Large: John Sims- 4x State Placer
Good luck choosing your top 5. I will name 2 for you. Blake Maurer, Matt Coughlin and in about 4 years I feel like 2 more will be Nick Lee, Joe Lee. So you really have to be selective when that time comes because you only have one spot left. One hell of a tradition!!!
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Southern Indiana schools have some serious talent. Castle, Mater Dei, Princeton, Central, Reitz and Memorial have had some great programs and individuals over the years. Is there anyone willing to sound off the accolades of those fine schools?
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Fleener by far. It might not have been in the finals but his are wicked and effective.
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Red vs Micic is way over the top with delusions. Red is a great wrestler with a great resume but he is not close to Micic. Nick Lee is one of the toughest wrestlers that Micic faced in his 3 year run of titles and he did an excellent job of neutralizing Lee. Honestly speaking from my humble point of view should Red wrestle Lee it would be the same outcome for Red that it was for Lee against Micic. From what is being said Red might have the honor of testing his skills against the younger Lee next year should the weights of each end up the same. Either way Red is a great wrestler that will have a fantastic career regardless of the fantasy matches we put on these blogs.
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Mater Dei will bring a contingent - you can be sure of that. Will it be the size of the 2003 crowd? Doubtful...you can't forget there were Weinzapfels on that team!!!! ;D
There is a Weinzapfel on this years team!? ???
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Easily? Come on now! Wilson and James are not slouches. If he did in fact stay at 126 for the expressed purpose of wrestling Stevan that is awesome - no matter what the outcome.
Wilson started at 126 and saw Lee wrestle at team state and the very next week bumped to 132. Case closed.
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dang it.......lol.......how about the part i added about being the predecessors to modern day wrestlers?........pretty good huh?......lol.......i laughed at myself as i typed that one.......
Not only did you get corrected regarding the definition of Gladiator but :
History
Main article: Wrestling history
Wrestling represents one of the oldest forms of combat. Literary references to it occur as early as in the Iliad, in which Homer recounts the Trojan War of the 13th or 12th century BC.[3] The origins of wrestling go back 15,000 years through cave drawings in France. Babylonian and Egyptian reliefs show wrestlers using most of the holds known in the present-day sport.
8) you almost got away with it.
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Anyone who watched the google hangout heard kempf is dangerous.
Saw him wrestle for the first time at Evansville Semi State and was surprised at his making it out of a tough ticket round. I was very impressed with him.
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you must be an awesome person in life then. Maybe I should let you mentor me. Thanks for the advice but like I said before. You don't like it then don't read it. It ain't facebook, and you don't have to comment because there is an option too it's hard to take advice from someone who is afraid to put their name next to a comment instead of hiding behind a tag name. Worthy of the sport you say? This is a gladiator sport! Gladiators like attention. My wrestlers like that I talk about them. It fires them up to hear most of you talk about them the way you do. You my friend are just chalkboard material. Period. We will enjoy our time in Indy this weekend, and on Monday we will be starting next seasons wrestling practices. Trust me when I say this. I will be even louder come next year. I can't wait for some more of everyone's chalkboard material. Have a great day everyone.
Wrestling is a Gladiator sport? Gladiators like attention? Actually, Gladiators were typically criminals, slaves and or outcasts of society who were killed before audiences for entertainment by way of sword, animal or even rocks. Gladiators were mostly despised by the society they were from. I haven't seen a sword at a single match this year. Technically wrestling is considered a grappling sport which has one or more contestants fighting, grappling and clinching for superior position. Wrestlers have always been held with high regard in the society they are from. They are considered superior athletes in strength, intelligence and respect.
Maybe that is why you are having such a hard time to get your team noticed? You didn't understand the concept of wrestling. Drop the brash act and humbly defeat your opponents.
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Nick Lee could easily have jumped to 132 and won a state title but instead stayed at 126 to take on the greatest wrestler in Indiana at this current time. I call Nick Lee pretty darn great for that fact alone .
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Thanks for the advice. i appeciate it. This isnt my first kid in state though thanks. I ran advanced practices for a long time now, and have had many come through my wrestling room. This is my first year at Hobart though. You will here my loud voice every year from now on. if you want i can personal message you so you can proof read em first since your so involved with what my wrestlers and i do. He likes the thought of a target on his back. even though you think it is a bad idea, he loves it. Now people like you who have awful opinions know who he is when none of you did before this year. Welcome to the coach bell hour. I will bring more kids into the lime light next year as well. If you havent noticed, i put a buzz around brendan that wasnt there before. Now he has started getting noticed by people who never would have even cared. He is just fine. You on the other hand like to think that you know the situation, but just give bad advice instead. See you at State this weekend, and next year, and the year after that, and the year after that. You get the picture. I will be around for a while producing state qualifiers and hopefully champions. I just hope you are still around to talk smack about 14 year olds. See you then genius.
Coach,
If you want his name known all he has to do is win matches. You obviously need to be a basketball coach where your kids names are printed on the back so everyone "knows" them by reading them (much like that's how I learned your kids name, I read it). I understand that you want your kids to be known but when you are a fantastic wrestler and or coach everyone knows who you are when you walk in the gym. I couldn't pick your kid out of a lineup made of 3 people. I don't really consider what you are doing to be worthy of the sport. If you want to talk yourself up and make a mockery of Danny Bell then by all means do it...but leave the kids out of it. They deserve better out of their mentor.
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Extra6, great picks. There are only a few that i would change but not sure which few. The only reason I would change any is because the top 4 in several weights could have an upset but you have a pretty solid base.
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the last time mater dei missed state was 1975.
Phenomenal feat that only Mater Dei can achieve. They came close a few times to missing that streak but there is always one bullet left in their gun it seems.
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Joe Lee.
Watching his brother wrestle this weekend and knowing he has THAT for sibling rivalry means one thing...scary!
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Most interesting post on indianamat to date.
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Having watched Cody wrestle since grade school I have to give him the nod but he will have his work cut out for him.
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This year that very well may be the case, but when you look at the state population figures by region it stands to reason that it should often be the case. According to 2012 census data, the Indy metro area population was approx. 1.9 mil out of 6.5 mil in the entire state. That is roughly 29% of the population of the entire state resides in the Indy metro area.
And if you want to look further into the population stats you will find that the northern part of the state should be producing another big portion of the top wrestlers due to its high population. Of the top ten counties by population, 6 of the 10 are in the north, 3 are in the Indy metro area while only one of the top ten is in the south (Vanderburgh county/Evansville).
As I already stated, The Indy metro area population is 1.9 million. If you add the six largest counties from the north you get approx. 1.65 million. While if you add the E'ville metro area with the Jefferson/New albany/Clarksville area you only get 0.371 million. This obviouly isn't the entire story but it is a good representation of the population difference between the north, central & south parts of the state.
So, pound-for-pound as they say the south does a good job of producing talent on a per capita basis.
I guess it boils down to individual Semi-State Ticket rounds. It seems a pretty good sum of the ranked wrestlers that dont make it to the show are knocked out by other ranked wrestlers leaving lower ranked and even unranked wrestlers a way to slip in from weaker Semi-States. I would say that is the biggest argument rather than just geographically.
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Austin Bethel (126) at the Evansville Semi-State, freshman came in with only 2 losses on the year, but everybody was picking Boles to beat him first round then pretty much having Schitter from Jasper as a lock to get 2nd...Bethel pulled out a close win over Boles 8-6, then dominated Schitter in the ticket round. Will be a tough kid IMO for the next 3 years.
That was the first time I watched him wrestle and I was impressed. He injury defaulted to 4th place but I never heard what happened. I know that he wrestled Nick Lee several times this year and his Friday night draw was Micic. From the frying pan to the fire with that draw.
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Perhaps those kids on the other side are saying the same about their draw. Mater Dei is tough to beat when they have 4 days to prepare for one specific wrestler. Not that I am saying they are going to win them all but I would say there will be a few that come out of there winners. The only one I see unattainable for Mater Dei is 145. The rest are manageable with the talent level they have in the room and on the coaching staff.
Evansville Semi-State Summer Rankings (AKA the WAG, 2014 Edition, rev. 2)
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Brock Hudkins will be the state champion if he stays healthy. That kid is solid. He might end up in Joe Lees weight making Lee prove himself. If that happens it will be the battle of the day at the Ford Center and most likely Bankers from there.