Coach Mikesell Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Hypothetical, what would your team look like with these weights? I am putting 15 weights, makes more sense to me, no chance for a tie if you have 15 and I would rather add a weight to get to 15 than go to 13. 110, 117, 124, 131, 138, 145, 155, 160, 165, 175, 189, 215, 235, 285. Just for discussion, thoughts? Mikesell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstruck Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 my 106 weighs, 88 on a heavy day indianmorg, nkraus and gtodrivr 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indysportsfan Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, Coach Mikesell said: Hypothetical, what would your team look like with these weights? I am putting 15 weights, makes more sense to me, no chance for a tie if you have 15 and I would rather add a weight to get to 15 than go to 13. 110, 117, 124, 131, 138, 145, 155, 160, 165, 175, 189, 215, 235, 285. Just for discussion, thoughts? Mikesell When you say no chance for a tie, what are you referencing? There could still be a tie score -- do you mean the 1st TB could become matches won and that would decide the team winner? nkraus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOC Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I would like to think there is enough participation in all of our schools to add a weight class..... However the reality is that it would most likely increase forfeits and unfortunately there are too many of those already. Galagore and nkraus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Mikesell Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Yes, win 8 weights is first criteria My 106 is 88 as well, but that is pretty rare, what is the statistics for FF"s at 106? I have three kids who can get to 109, but not 106. So the 88#er gets spot by default. Just wondering what national stats are. any insight? Mikesell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Our team would increase the number of forfeits in most years considering you're adding a bigger weight. Also the theres a lot of 106s are struggling to make 100 and I don't see that considering most 113 pounders are already cutting to get there that they would continue to cut to make 110. I think 14 weight classes is perfect. I also don't see the point of having 3 weight classes above 200 considering there's only 1 in college. This is all just opinion. Coach Moore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Moore Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Good point with only having one class above 200 in college. Maybe adding a weight class somewhere else or possibly adjusting a couple of lower classes would be beneficial. But until they add another wieght to college 14 is perfect. Imagine how different Kyle Snyder would be if there was a weight class for him in the lower 200s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 If there is a double forfeit then the number of matches won would mean we would need tiebreakers. nkraus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No One Famous Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I like the idea of 15, but adding it to the middle of the lineup. 106, 113, 119, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 152, 160, 170,182, 195, 220, 285 dygoudy19, ENoblewrestling, Jcjcjc and 11 others 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Goebel Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, No One Famous said: I like the idea of 15, but adding it to the middle of the lineup. 106, 113, 119, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 152, 160, 170,182, 195, 220, 285 This is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 6 hours ago, No One Famous said: I like the idea of 15, but adding it to the middle of the lineup. 106, 113, 119, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 152, 160, 170,182, 195, 220, 285 Perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Our line up doesn't change unless you want to make the weight classes 141 145 190 200 220 230 240 250 Thinking about changing our name from wrestling team to "Lineman off season conditioning team" :} Coach Moore, No One Famous and Caleb Spires 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84headhunter Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: If there is a double forfeit then the number of matches won would mean we would need tiebreakers. Then it should go to the coach with the most hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstruck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 22 hours ago, Coach Mikesell said: Yes, win 8 weights is first criteria My 106 is 88 as well, but that is pretty rare, what is the statistics for FF"s at 106? I have three kids who can get to 109, but not 106. So the 88#er gets spot by default. Just wondering what national stats are. any insight? Mikesell I get that its the most forfeits - but this is the one different weight class - turns into a safety issue, and the possibility of that 88lbs quitting and creating even more forfeits that weight - its about giving him an opportunity to wrestle that we have the weight class - to me the # of FF's there don't matter --- he gets to wrestle, he likes it, he keeps wrestling and becomes your 132 in a few years........or, he wrestles, hates it due to this, and quits creating more forfeits at 106, and in a few years more forfeits on a team cause he isn't there to wrestle an upper weight one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I'd like to see a 100lbs weight class at the JV/Freshman level. Raven27 and Russian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 34 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: I'd like to see a 100lbs weight class at the JV/Freshman level. I would like to see this too. We have about 7- 106 pounders and 6 of them are in the range of 82-95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith58 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, dstruck said: I get that its the most forfeits - but this is the one different weight class - turns into a safety issue, and the possibility of that 88lbs quitting and creating even more forfeits that weight - its about giving him an opportunity to wrestle that we have the weight class - to me the # of FF's there don't matter --- he gets to wrestle, he likes it, he keeps wrestling and becomes your 132 in a few years........or, he wrestles, hates it due to this, and quits creating more forfeits at 106, and in a few years more forfeits on a team cause he isn't there to wrestle an upper weight one day. Amen! This strikes a nerve with me. My freshman son is 85lbs soaking wet, but he's a pretty decent wrestler. He can compete with bigger kids, but giving up +20lbs is a stretch (particularly to the Cottey's, Dalton's, & Nelson's, etc). Competing on a level playing field was the whole reason that I encouraged him to wrestle. He wrestles year-round in the academies, and I can assure you there are a number of very good kids at or around his weight. Many parents just hold their kids back; who can blame them. We can't, in good conscience, do that, so one way or the other he's going to take his lumps. It is what it is. I understand the rationale, but given how hard he (and the other little guys) have worked; the idea of 110 as the lowest class gets me a bit frosty. pritchem, Dwilly and bluemonster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BClark Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Forfeit data from Y2 after last year's sectional. Number of forfeits by weight class: 106 103 113 102 120 71 126 68 132 68 138 66 145 53 152 56 160 59 170 51 182 60 195 77 220 78 285 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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