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Anyone who thinks riding is boring is uneducated about wrestling. I think freestyle wrestling has killed folkstyle because kids don't have to score from the bottom. I see a lot of kids who can't hit a switch, stand-up, sit-out or any other basic bottom escape move because all spring and summer they lay and wait and get put back to their feet with no effort expended and then go at it full bore again. It would be like a baseball game having guys hitting from a batting T because the pitcher may not stuff it where they want it. You want better top wrestling than enforce stalling for top and bottom. make the kid who balls up on the bottom just so he won't get turned do something, and if a kid on top wants to throw the legs and ride make the rule an automatic stall warning at 20 or 25 seconds of ride time then he will have to decide do I cut him, do I continue to try and turn him, or do I take the stall and give the point. I agree about the out of bounds for TD's like college. I am not a proponent of class wrestling because I think it seperates Indiana from the other states. Team wise most schools can't fill a line-up. Making it class wrestling when a majority of the schools are short mutiple weight spots may be just as bad as leaving it one class, but it may be worth a shot. Problem is the travel involved in getting schools to venues if it is a weeknight event. I am all for anything that makes wrestling a better and more competitive sport but like an earlier post said turning guys loose means it might as well be a take down tournament. And if riding puts you to sleep your attention span must be very very very short

I was actually being facetious as I know it would take approximately 33,000 entries to approximate the 14 title winners in the correct order when you have your 1 to 3 potential champs and of course when the odd winner outside your suggested three people possibilities crashes the party the odds go way up. But I was banking on your incredible insight to be able to reduce the odds and only have to fill out three entry blanks. But hey whos counting. I will be tracking your potential winners and hoping that by copying them I can win the $40 worth of free tickets to the 2012 state finals

I find it to be a little bit of an afront for someone to take potshots at someone else for their upset choice. I remember a couple years ago when the Woods kid from Leo stuck George Malone who was ranked #1 all year and a defending state champ. I guess a rankings guy must know all seeings how so often the rankings are so deadon. I believe the post was started so everyone could express their opinion without reproach or attack, apparently I was wrong so I guess maybe the all knowing one can expouse us with his superior intellect and post who he thinks will win every weight class. With that vast wrestling knowledge that he seems to have I am certain he has never had to purchase tickets to the state finals as he probably wins the freebies from the Mat Burns contest every year. When there is only a two or three person race at each weight class it should be extremely easy to fill out the three forms and walk away with all the goods. So go ahead and astound us with you prognostications all knowing one.

I stand corrected on the use of tax monies but will stick with my assessment of them in their quest to provide fair and upstanding competition to the member student athletes as my basis for them to make educated and thoughful judgements. As for the comment that the stiff penalties are their way of ensuring that future mistakes of this type don't occur it seems to be working to a T as at least three previous mishaps of the same type have been mentioned. Who ultimately suffers for a clerical error, the student athlete. What a pompous group who thinks that some underhanded activities were abound and that the only way to ensure the future integrity of the sport and save the world from the underhanded and dasterdly doings of Coach harper is to suspend him and fine the school - That will show them all "You can't mess with the Man"

I agree changes should be proactive, to wait and hear from the parents, wrestlers and coaches is a poorly educated statement. Just go to a tournament and see the havoc that is wrought while people are waiting and waiting and waiting. Open board meetings, don't expect too much too soon. Sounds like a govermental agency just wait things will get better we promise, change is slowwwwwwwwww!!!!!! I agree with the cat from Michigan decades long mistake if you don't get infront of the issues versus getting run over by them.

Brackets are predetermined and filled based on how wrestlers place at their semi-state. If they look uneven or not balanced to your liking then perhaps someone should have placed a little bit better or not gotten upset at their semi-state. One thing I know for sure is that if your going to win this tournament you got to beat four guys regardless of what order you gotta take em out in and if you face a better wrestler in the semi's than who you think your gonna face in the finals you just got beat that person one match earlier than you would have had to anyhow.

While I understand that the IHSAA could if they wanted suspend the athlete and I also understand that suspending the coach is a way to ensure the inegrity of the sport for which they stand. But I for one as a tax payer would require and do require much more from the governing body for high school athletics or any other governing body then to punish the student athlete by not allowing him or her to have the leadership or guidance they deserve (Their Head Coach) Using common sense as guidance should be the least we expect from those who determine the fates of young men and woman. To use the expression or phrase of it is a rule after all, we can't allow it or for heaven sakes mayhem will result. Haven't a few of you on here taken liberties with the posted legal speed limit - Perhaps been pulled over then let off with only a warning, or heaven forbid the autocratic pain in the rear police officer gave me a ticket and I was only doing 8 over. perhaps I invested in purchasing a radar detector to allow me to circumvent the rules. This is High School Athletics for crying out loud. Let the kids Wrestle, let them have the leadership of the man they worked so hard for and he in return and lighten up IHSAA this is High School Sports show the young men and woman an intelligent and thoughful resolution can be had and for crying out loud don't stand behind it is a rule after all. Just for your edification I am not a Penn Alumni nor supporter just want to see whats best for the young men

Bellmont does have about 200 more students than Indian Creek, so it is not quite 50% larger but it is substatially bigger. None the less Seven from there and Seven from Yorktown a school of 755 and the five from Indiana Creek far outweighs the eight Crown Point Advancers from their school of 2530. As for the Team Champ coming from the individual state tournament. I loved the old days when the place would go crazy when a match meant more points. It might also make the wrestlebacks and the consolation matches more exciting. I understand the angst over not having the team tournament and more kids getting to compete or move on to state as the teams move on. But with that being said it would give a smaller school that brings four or five really good kids to state a chance at a true team state crown versus the mythical coaches trophy. Just my two cents

It isn't often that an opponent can be viewed in the light that John and really all of the Bellmont staff is looked upon. It is a testiment of the type of leadership that is given to the young men who come through that progam. I have had the pleasure of knowing John since the early 80's and everything that has been said before my post I know to be true. He is a class act and the Bellmont program shows that through his influence and leadership. I will pray for a full and speedy return to the progam and sport he loves.

Oh wait I forgot David Palmer Muncie South after his freshman runner-up year moving to Delta for his three championships - I could go on and on and on

I know none the aforementioned kids changed schools in the middle of the year. A personal friend of mine changed high schools in the middle of the year all the way back in 1974 when we were sophmores. His family petioned the state. He moved in and earned a varsity spot. He then beat a Bellmont kid (Ranked 3rd) in the semi-finals of regionals when only one person (Champion) from each regional advanced to state. This not anything new and quite frankly I don't see the harm. He changed at the semester or I am assuming - he is academically eligble. He had to get approved by the IHSAA or he wouldn't be wrestling and kids change schools at a given moment all the time. It is only when it comes to athletics that the sacred cow is challenged and people go crying foul. If the kid never came out for sports then it would have been a moot point. Move schools sorry don't pick up a trumpet for band, ah the school play is out. Show Choir sorry not allowed. As I said this is high school sports not life or death (Although for some their entire self worth seems wrapped up in it) As for Angel Andrae Matt - I was using them as examples of moving prior to HS - Brandon Wright Cathedral to Warren Central - The kid from cathedral who went to state at 52 last year now at HSE don't hear many people crying about those moves in the middle of their high school careers (oh wait the evil empire that is the catholic schools suffered for that one) As I said and will stand by it This is High School Athletics

I usually don't post on here but on this subject I cannot resist. In my humble opinion a kid should be able to go anywhere and compete for any school he/she wishes regardless of school district restrictions. Parochial schools and private schools like and of the Bishops - Culver, Howe and Park Tudor do it all the time. If I am not mistaken Matt Irwin was a Norwell kid before ending up at Bellmont. The funny thing is the person or people who should be most upset are the parents of the kid who is displaced as a varsity wrestler because a kid moves in. Wouldn't it be great if people were only allowed to work within a specific geographical region regardless of their chosen field of endevour. Sorry you want a job at GM but you live in Wells Allen or Whitley county nada. Your a nurse who can't find a job a job in Huntington can't help you at Parkview Ft Wayne you don't qualify. As for Thatcher Joey is right I think he only made varsity his sophmore year because (Bultemier ?) got hurt. So a kid moved in so he could sit for two years when in all likelihood he could have been varsity at least full three years at AC right. As for the Yorktown move in so what - Angel Escobedo Andrae Hernandez and a host of others in the region have made the moves. This is afterall only high school wrestling (As much as I love it) Damn what am I saying they should have made Andrew Howe go to IU it's not fair how can a Hoosier end up a Badger. The ISHAA is almost as overbearing and short sighted as the NCAA - They killed the basketball goldmine (who cares) They are bound and determined to do it to other High School sports and the homers perpetuate it with their crys of this isn't fair as it comes out of the side of their mouth all the while accepting someone in out of the other. If a parent wants the best for their child let it happen.

With all due respect to Taylor March who was a Four Time place winner, three time finalist as well as a champ, Andy Uhl was three time place winner and a National Champion at Findlay University, I feel he is East Noble's all-time best. I have to agree with Oliver Richmond his take down for the championship his senior year at New Castle was an all-time classic when you had to shoot the inner circle for a takedown. Carroll Norton and Voight Champs Salmons and Hedges runner-up Jon Fitch - enough said