slice60
-
Posts
56 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Reputation Activity
-
slice60 reacted to The Professor Morgan in semi state draws
152 Coleman vs Rodgers ticket round
170 McClain and Wagner in same quarter bracket as well
-
slice60 reacted to piscis1956 in Gavin Rose
I don’t know Gavin but I have friends (who know nothing about wrestling) who apparently do know him. They are very impressed with him. They say he is a very hard working, ambitious, polite, and respectful young man. One of them said, “I heard he wrestles for Greenfield. Maybe you’ve heard of him.”
-
slice60 reacted to gogoplata89 in Gavin Rose
It was broken He had surgery that Friday before Regional and showed up to Saturday morning to cheer on his teammates. He's a great kid and we will miss him being apart of our program.
-
slice60 got a reaction from sstark in Gavin Rose
From IndyStar article:
It wasn’t until the 132-pound bout where Warren Central’s perfect start was put in jeopardy. Greenfield-Central senior Gavin Rose led Warren Central’s Aundre Beatty 3-2 in the final period.
But as Beatty knotted up the match with an escape late, Rose went down. For more than 10 minutes, trainers, coaches and support staff surrounded the senior wrestler as they stabilized his left ankle and helped get him off the mat in a wheelchair.
Rose, who finished seventh in the state at 113 last season, came into the sectional finals match with a career-best 32-2 record. As he was wheeled out of Warren Central’s gym, the senior received a standing ovation.
“He’s got the biggest heart of any kid I coached. It’s disappointing, but we’ve got to wait and see what the doctor says,” Greenfield-Central head coach Josh Holden said. “I know he was in pain but that doesn’t always mean you’re done. I think that was his fear and that’s why he was so emotional, he was just worried about next week.
“He’s probably telling the doctors right now, ‘How do I wrestle next week?’”
-
slice60 got a reaction from ChrisMC in Semi-State Poll Question - Mat Assignment Preference
In my opinion, the regional / semistate / state sites with 4 mats should assign mats based on the bracket. Then if 1 mat finishes early while the others are 2 or 3 behind, then you move a few of the big boys' matches to that mat. It's probably easier for the wrestlers to know which mat they will be on & just focus on where they're at. Plus, parents can be prepared & don't have to scamper all over the gym to get a good view & take pics.
-
slice60 got a reaction from base in Semi-State Poll Question - Mat Assignment Preference
In my opinion, the regional / semistate / state sites with 4 mats should assign mats based on the bracket. Then if 1 mat finishes early while the others are 2 or 3 behind, then you move a few of the big boys' matches to that mat. It's probably easier for the wrestlers to know which mat they will be on & just focus on where they're at. Plus, parents can be prepared & don't have to scamper all over the gym to get a good view & take pics.
-
slice60 reacted to SWINfan in Rules question
I think everybody is right here in some way and the argument here is too much about the words blame and responsibility. First of all, no one seems to be 100% to blame here. I agree with Y2 that the scorekeeper isn't to blame for the situation. But I think we could all agree that an attentive scorekeeper with a decent understanding of the basic rules and the confidence to question the referee in the midst of a bunch of commotion, could have helped avoid the situation from ever leaving the mat.
In such a scenario, I can imagine there was a lot going on. A kid that comes within a hair of losing turns it around and gets the fall... there had to be people celebrating and yelling. The kid that got pinned and his coach had to be wondering what just happened and almost stunned by the turn of events. So in that moment, I can see how something like this could (not should, could) get missed. A scorekeeper that is focused and calm enough to ask the referee about the tech fall would have been greatly beneficial, but whether paid or not, I'd think you'd get that 50% of the time AT BEST.
No one has answered my question from earlier though..... did this situation cause the kid to be eliminated from the tournament or just place lower than expected. That doesn't matter in determining what should have happened and how the rule should be applied... I'm just curious since no one has mentioned the specifics of the participants in the match.
-
slice60 reacted to jlittlejohn in Rules question
As long as neither wrestler had wrestled their next match this was correctable, if the review of the computation of the score confirmed there was an error; however, once either wrestler begins their next match the opportunity to make the correction ends. If this were to occur in a placement match the 30-minute rule would be enforced being that there would be no additional matches to be wrestled and then team score being effected would be the point of contention for correction which is limited to 30-minutes of the official posting of team scores. Keep in mind this scenario applies strictly to tournaments.
-
slice60 reacted to tigroscr in Rules question
Why cant there be checks and balances. If the scorekeeper is being paid, then why does he not have the right to alert the referee of the tech fall. Then the referee and coaches can work out the correct outcome. My thought would be if this match was fast paced with a lot of quick moves, then the only one that would have caught the tech fall would be the scorekeeper? The coaches and referee would be keeping up with the moves, and scores as they happen. Am I off base with that logic?
-
slice60 reacted to Y2CJ41 in Rules question
You are wrong, blaming a scorekeeper because they didn't know whether the match continued or not is NOT their job. Their job is to run the clock and make sure the score is correct on the board. They should not be required to read the rule book before operating a score clock.
-
slice60 reacted to piscis1956 in Incorrect Regional bracket-132 Perry Meridian
I don’t think he was trying to get it fixed here. He was just trying to be informative to those fans who might be printing the bracket.
Then he was trying to say he was sure they would be fixed without his interference as he was confident the AD and/or coach would catch it.
-
slice60 got a reaction from MD92 in Rules question
My Dad is a retired Athletic Director. For tournament events, he paid every worker (except concessions which the Band worked to earn funds).
News alert-- If you have volunteered to be a timer or scorekeeper for a Sectional or Regional, your Athletic Director is either clueless or taking advantage of your generosity because YOU SHOULD BE GETTING PAID.
The host site is responsible for obtaining competent (adult...see below) scorers, timekeepers, etc & the cost for those tournament expenses is covered by the gate receipts or the IHSAA if there is a deficit.
Here are some excerpts from:
2018‐19 Wrestling Tournament Series General Rules:
The center school shall provide and be responsible for tickets, ticket takers/sellers, ushers, announcers, scorers, timekeepers, all necessary equipment for conducting the game or contest, necessary facilities for the competing teams and those directly affiliated with the competing teams (such as the principal, athletic director, coaches, student managers, etc.), facilities for spectators/fans and crowd control (hereinafter known as the local arrangements).
Officials A. Bench officials, etc. are to be selected by the center principal and tourney director. Only qualified adult help shall be used as official scorekeepers and timers.
Financial Terms A. Sectionals and Regionals 1. Tournament expenses such as officials, help, etc. shall be paid by the center school from the gross receipts.
IHSAA shall reimburse center school when a deficit occurs.
-
slice60 reacted to XCard in Rules question
As stated above, I do believe the rule states that all corrections to match scores must be done prior to the start of the next match on that mat. That is an unfortunate way to lose. Official scorer and referee should have been a little better in realizing the situation, as well as the Coach.
-
slice60 reacted to Wrestling Scholar in Rules question
Xcard is correct. Too bad to happen at sectionals, but the kid should of won. Ref and coach should know better.
-
slice60 reacted to SIwrestling in Rules question
When the wrestler was up 10 and as soon as he got the reversal, the coach should have known that he was up 12. As soon as back points are being counted, it's just natural for coaches and even the ref to know that tech fall is a real possibility.
-
slice60 reacted to tigroscr in Rules question
All of the tournaments I've been to, I have seen the scorekeeper notify the referee of the tech fall, if the referee wasnt already aware.
-
slice60 reacted to Indysportsfan in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
Once the records of the wrestlers have been posted on Track I will update the spreadsheet. When new rankings are posted it will be updated as well. After Sectional, Regional and Semi-state I will update the list to reflect who is still alive. Currently I only have 2 weights done but it will be completed before Thursday.
2019 Wrestling Rankings.xlsx
-
slice60 reacted to Indysportsfan in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
Each tab will now fit on 1 page if you choose to print.
-
slice60 reacted to Indysportsfan in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
All weights are entered. I will input records in the next 24 hours; once the last rankings are posted I will update the information. Please let me know if you found a mistake.
-
slice60 reacted to Indysportsfan in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
I do have 5 wrestlers listed as the total on the synopsis tab.
-
slice60 reacted to Indysportsfan in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
Missing 5 brackets -- Crown Point, Elkhart Memorial, Delta, Mooresville, Southridge. Please let me know if you see errors, will update again on Saturday pm / Sunday am with results from Sectional.
-
slice60 reacted to Indysportsfan in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
Brackets are up on Track so they are now completed. If new rankings are posted I will update the sheet (located on Google Docs) before Saturday morning.
-
slice60 reacted to TeamGarcia in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
(28) ranked in Avon Sectional..Record !
🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨
-
slice60 reacted to Indysportsfan in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
Updated with Top 20
-
slice60 reacted to Indysportsfan in Sectional, Regional, Semi-State, Weight Class -- Rankings Distribution
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tl9p8Q9bfnvyd4MiW3hxApP7oqfdDtKHuUebEHCySSU/edit?usp=sharing