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  1. Best of luck in your future careers - wrestling and otherwise - Mr Streck !!
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  3. Galagore - do you think going to 3 classes could hurt other sports at the smaller schools? Current situation is that athletic kids are expected to play 2 or 3 sports. Your suggestion is that by classing the individual championships, more students may go out for wrestling, they might be more encouraged to do offseason training, and although the number of college scholarships will not change, more of them may begin to go to the smaller school athletes who will now be noticed by college coaches where they weren't before. Could all this small school wrestling love also encourage more athletes to specialize in wrestling, which could then hurt the football/baseball/track teams who are competing for their availability also?
  4. What other schools was Asa considering?
  5. Took a look at California's setup (http://www.cifstate.org/sports/wrestling/index) It's a 3-day tournament, not 4 (Wednesday is registration/workout day. Thursday is half-day, then full days on Friday/Saturday) It is a true double-elimination with full wrestlebacks to 3rd place There are 40 wrestlers per weight class State is divided into 10 Sections Number of qualifiers in each weight class is set for each section - and is the same for each weight class: Southern(9) Central(10) Sac-Joaquin(6) North Coast(3) Central Coast(3) San Diego(4) Northern(2) Los Angeles*(1) Oakland(1) San Francisco(1) Pairings for the weight classes will be done by the State Rules and Operation Committee and the state meet director (Brackets are SEEDED) Looks like the top 16 for each weight class are seeded then the rest are drawn into open spaces
  6. Surprised me that even in the modern era there have been so few, especially those over 106/113! Mendez has some good company in Tsirtsis and Maurer on the list Im wondering how many freshmen came one match short - runner up - at weights 126 and up especially those upper weights
  7. Wow, so Jesse and Asa have never crossed paths - I thought maybe during a national team practice or something they might have. I would give the edge to Asa based on experience but it would be a very entertaining match!! Great weekend by both young men, congratulations Team Garcia and Sig40!
  8. Has Asa wrestled Mendez? Let’s make this dream matchup happen Notorious! Difficult to imagine Allred being beaten because he was so dominant this season, but by last year’s senior Davison... hmm, maybe - would love to see this match
  9. From past experience, I can tell you right now that this discussion will end with Joe saying "Let's just have one weight class then and one champion for the entire state". Dang it, I don't word it as smoothly as Joe...
  10. Most of them are 1st year Cadets - born in 2004. This means that they will be either 15 (born Jan-May) or 14 (born June-Dec) at graduation time at the end of May. Fast forward 4 years from now when they are seniors in high school, and these 1st year cadets will all be 18 years old or will have just turned 19 within a few months. Not really extreme outliers
  11. Normally when I've been watching matches, if the pin is imminent (defensive wrestlers is rocking side to side maybe) as soon as the top wrestler "settles" the shoulders the pin is called. Do officials realistically do this silent one-thousand-one, one-thousand-two count with shoulders on the mat?
  12. This puts everything in the perspective of athletics/wrestling and it is not always about that. Although it could cost them a year of earnings, being an older student among peers in school could also have the young child more mentally prepared for rigorous/advanced schoolwork, and could also potentially set the child in a position of leadership at a young age. It could be argued that these advantages might outweigh a year of earnings. I used to feel similar to you, but realized that IHSAA has a rule in place that does not allow athletes to compete after their 20th (I think?) birthday. Is that too "old"? Possibly, but that is the rule. And although some students are held back for athletic purposes, there may also be other factors such as maturation and behavioral issues that we do not know about.
  13. In my opinion (and very clearly/vocally the opinion of the announcers on TrackCast) Noehre had Rodgers pinned midway through the 2nd period. I think the official missed that call On the flip side, I would say Rodgers had the toughest path to the championship among anyone in the tournament so a big congratulations to him! He had a brutal first round draw of Nathan Conley from Avon, then Fort Wayne semistate champion Ethan Hicks. Then Merrillville semistate champion Brock Ellis and finally the New Castle semistate champion Noehre
  14. Would be really nice if IHSAA would Determine team scoring rules Publish team scoring rules Stick to the rules
  15. I have to cheer for Brewer - he’s earned this spot and to lose based on these circumstances would be really unfortunate
  16. IS IT TIME!??? Annual Class-Wrestling melee about to start??!!?? I look forward to this every year
  17. When they were wrestling 60 matches in a season Escobedo in 2002-03 record was 61-0
  18. If Mendez is able to get past Watts and reach the finals, should still be a great matchup under the lights with Curtis, Walendzak, Rioux as the likely suspects, or perhaps Brock Peele rematch
  19. How does scoring work? Do you only score if they win the championship or are there points per place?
  20. Curious as to who has scored the most falls in the state this year - Let's hear some numbers! Is there a state record that anyone knows of? I would guess Mason Parris from last couple of seasons put up some huge numbers - unless he possibly received a lot of forfeits from opponents calling in sick that day
  21. Here's how I see Crown Point (in my opinion - and I know anything can happen) 106 Roberson - best case scenario 5th. I don't see him beating Cottey 120 Bettich - 2nd round matchup with Boarman. Winnable, but very tough. I'll give him benefit and take him all the way to 2nd place 126 Mendez - 1st place very possible 145 Burford - I don't see him getting past Graves but if he does then likely 3rd/4th at best 152 Hollendonner - difficult Friday night match. I have him at 0 195 Potosky - Allred in 2nd round if he gets there. Max of 5th place So with a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and two 5ths that's 69 team points plus bonus. I don't think that will be enough to get it done but that would be a great weekend for your team
  22. Y2 - need to check a couple of these they are showing 2018 finalists 138 First round match-ups of ranked wrestlers:#2 Blake Mulkey- Brownsburg vs. #11 Alexander Strueder- Fishers#4 Zach Melloh- Indianapolis Cathedral vs. #18 Noah Hunt- Bloomington South etc
  23. My picks: 1. Cathedral - they only bring 5 this year, but they are all high potential scorers. Mosconi (145) and Slivka (160) have relatively good paths to the finals. Seltzer 2nd round match will be a good one but otherwise I think he makes the finals. Rodgers (152) and Walendzak (126) are the keys - especially Rodgers 2. Mater Dei - Matt Lee (145) and Eli Dickens (152) have good paths to the finals although Cooper Noehre could be a roadblock for Dickens. Parkinson (170) could make top 4. Freeman (106) is on the wrong side of the bracket - he should make top 4 but then hits Cottey in semis. Boarman (120) vs Bettich in quarterfinals is winnable - that’s a big one. Any other points would be considered bonus points, with some bad 1st rd matchups 3. Avon - Garcia and Brewer are prohibitive favorites to win it all. I also like the draw for Rioux at 126 in his quarter bracket but further points would be a challenge. Both Conleys have very tough draws in first round. The key for Avon will be the young Garcia (106) and Reynolds (138) they need some additional points at both 4. Brownsburg - Lots of wrestlers, lots of talent - but I don’t see them at the very top end. However, these guys are battle tested and know how to manage a match to keep it within winning range late in the 3rd. They have a LOT of swing matches listed above - I think they are capable of winning any of them but they will need to win MOST of them to get guys into the 3rd/4th place range instead of the 5th-8th or put out in first round 5. Columbus East - Like Cathedral, not many guys but they are top shelf. Rooks and South are favorites - although South has a tough path. Bolte (220) could make it to the finals if he gets hot. Schoenegge has tons of talent but to reach finals would have to likely go through Sam Fair, Brock Ellis *and* Elliott Rodgers - that’s tough! 6. Portage - Moran and Donnell Washington are both guys I expect to see in the finals, and I think they both will win it. Brock Peele is great but draws Brayden Curtis in the 1st round. Hegedus gets Drake Campbell. 7. Roncalli - Only 5 guys, but they have some big potential. Could be among top few if they have a great weekend. Brayden Lowery could win it all at 120, but will have the other Brayden in semis. Alec Viduya (132) could also win it all but Garcia is the favorite and Alec will have to get through 2 other monsters to get to him. Freije actually has a great bracket draw - he should breeze to the final 4 and a good shot to get to the finals. Eli Mahan should get top 4 but would have to beat South or Walker to make the finals. Heavyweight John Harris may be their key Others - Crown Point, Merrillville, Perry Meridian, Warren. All these are solid squads, but other than Mendez for Crown Point, I just don’t see enough of their people going for a top place or getting past all of their early round matchups. They can be the spoilers in many cases for the teams listed higher
  24. Key matchups: 106 Carlton Perry (WC) vs Logan Miller (BROWN) in the 1st round. With only 5 wrestlers, Warren really needs these points. Brownsburg has to have lots of people advance too. Perry defeated Miller 8-2 earlier this season 106 Blaze Garcia (AVON) vs Suhas Chandi (Carmel) in 1st round. Rough matchup for the freshman - if he can win I consider those huge bonus points for Avon 113 Jacob Moran (PORT) vs Cole Ross (EMD) in 1st round. Brutal draw for Mater Dei - if he wins then Portage is essentially done. If Moran wins as expected then that is a big loss for EMD 113 Zeke Seltzer (CATH) vs KT Nelson (BROWN) in 2nd round. Nelson is hot, but can he control Seltzer? I’m guessing no, which would put Nelson with a 5th place finish as best possible scenario 120 Brayden Lowery (RONC) vs Tyler Conley (AVON) in 1st round. Likely that Avon loses one of their 7 here Lowery is too much 120 Blake Boarman (EMD) vs Chris Stewart (WC) in 1st round. Winner gets Riley Bettich (CROWN) in the 2nd round. What a group of 4! I think Stewart has the chance to pull an upset here but advantage Boarman. Warren absolutely has to have Stewart get to the points rounds to have a shot. Boarman vs Bettich - WOW! Loser can only place 5th at best WOW. Big points swing possible 120 Kysen Montgomery (BROWN) vs Carson Eldred (Westfield) in 1st round. The two have split matches this year. Montgomery has his work cut out for him, but it’s a big swing match for Brownsburg 126 Brock Peele (PORT) vs Brayden Curtis (YORK) in 1st round. Winner gets Lukasz Walendzak (CATH) in 2nd round. Another stacked group of 4. Peele is great but can he knock off both of these? If Curtis wins, can Walendzak score on the solid senior? 126 Kane Egli (EMD) vs Logan Wagner (Zionsville) in 1st round. Another tough first round for Mater Dei. Wagner is very experienced - but I think it’s close enough and Egli could provide the minor upset. Winner gets Hunter Watts in the 2nd round! 126 Jesse Mendez (CROWN) vs Hunter Watts (Jimtown) in semifinals. There’s a huge difference in points (22 vs 13) between 1st and 3rd place. Can Mendez repeat his 5-2 win over Watts? 132 Ricky Hegedus (PORT) vs Drake Campbell (BROWN) in 1st round. Winner gets Alec Vidya (RONC) in 2nd round. Yet another crazy quarter-bracket! Could be a BIG points move if the winner of Hegedus/Campbell can beat Viduya. Viduya has to score big for Roncalli 138 Jaden Reynolds (AVON) vs Dylan Goudy (Western) in 1st round. Goudy will be a tough matchup, but I’d consider these some critical bonus points if Reynolds can win it. 145 Jacob Burford (CROWN) vs Antwaun Graves (WC) in 1st round. Winner has a good chance to get to the final 4 so that would be big points for whoever comes out ahead here. 152 Tyler Conley (AVON) vs Elliott Rodgers (CATH) in 1st round. WOW this is a blockbuster in terms of points because either of these could go a long way in the bracket for some major points. I think Rodgers needs to finish top 2 to give Cathedral a shot at the title. 152 Sam Fair (PERRY) vs Jake Schoenegge (CO EAST) in 1st round. WOW another great matchup! Pretty much a must-win for both teams cause these are high scorers, and without them neither team has the numbers to make it up 160 Peyton Asbury (BROWN) vs everybody. Asbury has a pretty good draw. Can he make it through to the semifinals where he would likely see Slivka (CATH)? A 3rd/4th place finish for Asbury would be nice points 170 Eli Mahan (RONC) vs Thierry Jean-Baptiste (BROWN) in 1st round. Mahan is electric - can Brownsburg draft a strategy to slow him down and steal a win here? I don’t see it happening 170 Nick South (COL EAST) vs Joe Walker (Mishawaka) in 2nd round. South won a 2-1 decision at the Al Smith. Columbus East will need him to win it all to keep in the team race. If he defeated Walker, South could see Mahan in the semifinals 182 Carson Brewer (AVON) is the only one at the weight on one of the teams listed. Should be big points for Avon here 195 Austin Lane (PERRY) and Ethan Potosky (CROWN) both are up against higher ranked opponents in 1st round. Tough for either to advance 220 Lawson Aiken (BROWN) will have a rough 2nd round match against the winner of Kyle Cornwell (Elwood) vs Joey Kidwell (W Lafayette). Aiken knocked off the #1 wrestler at semistate, can he keep the hot hand? 220 Jacob Bolte (COL EAST) vs Drew Webster (N Montgomery) in 2nd round. Webster is a dangerous opponent for Bolte. Columbus East needs every single point it can get 285 Dorian Keys (BROWN) vs Yehezquel DeVault (Penn) in 2nd round. Heavyweight is always so unpredictable, but if Keys can get some big points here for Brownsburg it would be a huge boost for them
  25. Annual breakdown on team scoring. Teams score ONLY advancement points for Friday night matches (A TRAVESTY!) then count advancement AND activity bonus points (fall = 2, technical fall = 1.5, major decision = 1) from Saturday morning on. Points awarded are for advancement (2.0 per round you move forward in championship, 1.0 in consolation) and placement points. Since the advancement and placement points are locked in, here is how the placers will score - the variable then is the bonus activity points. 1st = 22 points + bonus on 3 Saturday wins 2nd = 18 points + bonus on 2 Saturday wins 3rd = 13 points + bonus on 2 Saturday wins 4th = 11 points + bonus on 1 Saturday win 5th = 8 points + bonus on 2 Saturday wins 6th = 6 points + bonus on 1 Saturday win 7th = 4 points + bonus on 1 Saturday win 8th = 3 points (no bonus possible) TEAMS IN CONTENTION (and # of wrestlers) Brownsburg (9) Mater Dei (9) Avon (7) Crown Point (6) Merrillville (6) Portage (6) Perry Meridian (6) Warren Central (5) Roncalli (5) Cathedral (5) Columbus East (5)
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