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I believe that all of this was known at the seeding meeting on Monday but the coaches did the right thing and seeded wrestlers as they should have been seeded. A big kudos to those coaches for the doing the right thing!
 

As Maligned said, these are more examples of what the wrestlers did AFTER the year they were in this bracket.  What is the most accomplished bracket coming into the state tournament?
For Example 126 last year:
Garcia - 1x champ, 1x 3rd place
Rooks - 1x champ
Viduya - 1x champ
Mills - 2x 2nd and 1x 3rd
Mejia - 1x 2nd, 1x 5th
Poynter - 1x 4th
Demien - 1x 7
Smiley - 1x 8
3 Crowns and 9 medals going in....  I am sure there are other examples from past years.
 

this is just for fun so dont beat me up too bad....  I just picked 2 for each final and winner not taking into account the random draw.
106 - Red 13 over Micic 12 (the super frosh wins the first battle of these 2)
113 - Micic 13 over Cummings 16
120 - Red 14 over Hudkins 15
126 - Micic 14 over Red 15 (the senior gets the win)
132 - Lee 15 over Red 16 (a healthy Lee takes this hypothetical re-match)
138 - Lee 16 over Black 17
145 - Tsirtsis 12 over Lee 16/Lee 17 (Big Semifinal match)
152 - Lee over Lee (rematch of 145 semi final)*
160 - Hughes 15 over Covaciu 16
170 - Stevenson 13 over Hughes 16
182 - Rypel 16 over Lynde 12
195 - Davidson 17 vs Sliga 13 vs Rypel 15 (couldn't pick a winner here)
220 - Parris 18 over Robinson 14
285 - Streck 16 over Bernard 14

No one knows cause they probably aren't wrestling yet. LOL
In all seriousness, its very hard to predict the same level of success as Rumph but to look at kids who can maybe qualify or place at state with not much wrestling experience other than HS might be possible.  I know its not a "next" guy but I thought I heard Guerrier from Ev Cent didnt start till HS and ended up 4th this year.

I agree... State is so much fun when a whole section is cheering together.  I wonder if IHSAA or Bankers Life could designate 1 or 2 sections in the lower level as "No Seat Saving" sections.  Maybe the corner sections that can see all the mats but aren't the best seats.  Most big groups would obviously avoid these sections since they can't save and give family, friends or small schools a chance to get a good seat.  Of course it would be first come first serve but could open up seats without that much extra work.  

Very interesting the topic is posted this week and today there were a bunch of match ups between top ranked wrestlers. 
 
106 #1 Moran vs #3 Bailey
160 #2 Lemley vs #3 Mappes
138 #2 Rumph vs #3 Melloh
195 #1 Davidson vs #3 Penola
152 #3 Washington vs #3 Slivka (145)
170 #3 Brewer vs #8 Carson
Looks like not much dodging today
 
 

Very interesting the topic is posted this week and today there were a bunch of match ups between top ranked wrestlers. 
 
106 #1 Moran vs #3 Bailey
160 #2 Lemley vs #3 Mappes
138 #2 Rumph vs #3 Melloh
195 #1 Davidson vs #3 Penola
152 #3 Washington vs #3 Slivka (145)
170 #3 Brewer vs #8 Carson
Looks like not much dodging today
 
 

Very interesting the topic is posted this week and today there were a bunch of match ups between top ranked wrestlers. 
 
106 #1 Moran vs #3 Bailey
160 #2 Lemley vs #3 Mappes
138 #2 Rumph vs #3 Melloh
195 #1 Davidson vs #3 Penola
152 #3 Washington vs #3 Slivka (145)
170 #3 Brewer vs #8 Carson
Looks like not much dodging today
 
 

Watched without sound, and came away 12-11 Black.  Great match.

Serious question... Don't most kids have a pretty intense practice for about 2 hours every day? 15 mins might be a little quick but I'm not sure it is putting kids at anymore risk of getting hurt. Maybe it does.
 
And I would never want to put anything in front of safety but one of the biggest things people complain about is length of events. If the time limit was increased to 30-45 mins would the event have gone on much longer?

Irick taking 3rd after drawing Davidson Friday night was another impressive run.

Irick taking 3rd after drawing Davidson Friday night was another impressive run.

Irick taking 3rd after drawing Davidson Friday night was another impressive run.

I wish CJ had shook hands before celebrating. I have no problem with celebrating a state title let alone a 4x undefeated HS career but just wish he would have done it after the handshake and after his hand was raised. But he is still a kid and his emotions were high after the match so I can understand it.
 
All that being said what a phenomenal wrestling match! It absolutely lived up to the hype with both wrestlers getting put to their back. Amazing! Hats off to both wrestlers. You are both champions and wrestled like it on Saturday.

Most refs will not award an escape if the wrestler in control maintains both hands around the leg tight. If the hands come off or are just loosely holding on at any point then the ref will usually "hold" the escape until the situation ends in case a reversal happens. Even if the offensive wrestler regains control of the leg the escape is still usually given unless the offensive wrestler regains complete control.
 
These are obviously tough situations as kids are getting better and better at scrambling.
 
And I am not giving my opinion as to whether or not the escape should have been called but rather just offering some insight as to how these situations get called. Hope it helps a little.

For those that weren't there IMO the crowd ruined this match more than the ref. Adults from both sides were pretty ridiculous yelling for stall calls. Regardless if the stall calls were correct or not the "adults" in the stands need to set a better example and root for their wrestler vs rooting against his opponent.

For those that weren't there IMO the crowd ruined this match more than the ref. Adults from both sides were pretty ridiculous yelling for stall calls. Regardless if the stall calls were correct or not the "adults" in the stands need to set a better example and root for their wrestler vs rooting against his opponent.

For those that weren't there IMO the crowd ruined this match more than the ref. Adults from both sides were pretty ridiculous yelling for stall calls. Regardless if the stall calls were correct or not the "adults" in the stands need to set a better example and root for their wrestler vs rooting against his opponent.

For those that weren't there IMO the crowd ruined this match more than the ref. Adults from both sides were pretty ridiculous yelling for stall calls. Regardless if the stall calls were correct or not the "adults" in the stands need to set a better example and root for their wrestler vs rooting against his opponent.

For those that weren't there IMO the crowd ruined this match more than the ref. Adults from both sides were pretty ridiculous yelling for stall calls. Regardless if the stall calls were correct or not the "adults" in the stands need to set a better example and root for their wrestler vs rooting against his opponent.

There were obviously some problems but let the organizers look at solutions to the problems while keeping it at the Coliseum.  If the event gets moved every year then there will always be problems because its a new facility.  Having teams between mats, putting bleachers at the ends of both mats, using another section of the facility are all good solutions to multiple problems. 
 
Bathrooms and Concession stands will be a problem but if people know its a problem ahead of time then it will be much more tolerable.  Lets give this at least a couple of years to see how they can improve it where its at before just up and moving again. 

There were obviously some problems but let the organizers look at solutions to the problems while keeping it at the Coliseum.  If the event gets moved every year then there will always be problems because its a new facility.  Having teams between mats, putting bleachers at the ends of both mats, using another section of the facility are all good solutions to multiple problems. 
 
Bathrooms and Concession stands will be a problem but if people know its a problem ahead of time then it will be much more tolerable.  Lets give this at least a couple of years to see how they can improve it where its at before just up and moving again. 

There were obviously some problems but let the organizers look at solutions to the problems while keeping it at the Coliseum.  If the event gets moved every year then there will always be problems because its a new facility.  Having teams between mats, putting bleachers at the ends of both mats, using another section of the facility are all good solutions to multiple problems. 
 
Bathrooms and Concession stands will be a problem but if people know its a problem ahead of time then it will be much more tolerable.  Lets give this at least a couple of years to see how they can improve it where its at before just up and moving again. 

I have a small amount of cauliflower ear.  I love it.  It reminds me of the hard work, dedication, sacrifice and everything else we do for wrestling and I wore my head gear in practice (well most of the time).  That being said, no one can visibly tell that I have it and I could care less if I gett recognition for having it.  Its not for other people.. its my own reminder.  I would not love it if my ear was disfigured.  I don't consider nasty ears as a badge of honor and most wrestlers will grow up to be professionals and I can tell you that the corporate world does not understand the concept of wrestling let alone some job candidate's disfigured ear.
 
Cauliflower ears aside... why in the world don't most coaches at least make wrestlers wear head gear in practice for live wrestling?  You have to wear it in a match so why would you not want to wear it in practice.  Its getting to the point where I am shocked if I see a live match in which neither wrestler's head gear DOESNT come off.  I'm guessing this is because kids don't wear it in practice, aren't use to wearing it and don't have it fitted properly after a few minutes of sweating during the match.  I remember our coach would not let us wear multiple sweatshirts and sweatpants during practice because you don't wear those things during matches.  If we needed to cut weight then that was before or after practice conditioning.  To me its like asking a basketball team to practice on 9 ft goals but play on 10 ft goals.  Practice the way  you are going to play.   

I have a small amount of cauliflower ear.  I love it.  It reminds me of the hard work, dedication, sacrifice and everything else we do for wrestling and I wore my head gear in practice (well most of the time).  That being said, no one can visibly tell that I have it and I could care less if I gett recognition for having it.  Its not for other people.. its my own reminder.  I would not love it if my ear was disfigured.  I don't consider nasty ears as a badge of honor and most wrestlers will grow up to be professionals and I can tell you that the corporate world does not understand the concept of wrestling let alone some job candidate's disfigured ear.
 
Cauliflower ears aside... why in the world don't most coaches at least make wrestlers wear head gear in practice for live wrestling?  You have to wear it in a match so why would you not want to wear it in practice.  Its getting to the point where I am shocked if I see a live match in which neither wrestler's head gear DOESNT come off.  I'm guessing this is because kids don't wear it in practice, aren't use to wearing it and don't have it fitted properly after a few minutes of sweating during the match.  I remember our coach would not let us wear multiple sweatshirts and sweatpants during practice because you don't wear those things during matches.  If we needed to cut weight then that was before or after practice conditioning.  To me its like asking a basketball team to practice on 9 ft goals but play on 10 ft goals.  Practice the way  you are going to play.