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In reguards to years past I had helped out some with getting info for this event. But we are no longer attending the event, so I can not be of help. Usually they brackets are decided over the weekend, so someone should have some info.

He has an agenda for what he things is best for the entire IHSAA sports scene in general and its safe to say wrestling super high on the priority list even with it making them some revenue. Obviously, if we made them much more however it would be hard for him to overlook us to much considering he needs to find a way to pay for several other sport that do not make the IHSAA any money at all. For the IHSAA its always going to be about promoting the IHSAA orgnization as a whole and making money. That not necessarily a bad thing, its just what their job is based on. This is different than the wrestling community idea of promoting just wrestling and improving the qualift of it reguardless of the money value that comes along with it. This make it difficult to see eye to eye in order to save somthing when the two groups involved have two different belief systems that have little common ground.

We used to see this a lot in the Mater Dei system. The kid who no one had heard of before who ended up having a great senior season. Then after some research you learn who the kid has been behind in the lineup the last several year. Then is wasn't that suprising why we just now found out about him. Who are some of this years little known Junior and Senior who had been biding their time behind a couple studs and now will have a chance to make it to semi-state/state this year.

Ok we have a plenty of team state topics going on so I figured with the first meets of the season just around the corner this would be a great topic to bring up. Does anyone have any recent studies or new information about what wrestlers should be eating to promote proper weight loss throughout the course of the season? This is asked with the idea that a wrestlers weight is in check with his weight managment plan and want to diet the correct way. What food would allow a wrestlers to continue to eat proper portions, but at the same time give him some nutrition for energy, provide less calorie intake to help with wieght loss, remove unnecessary addatives that hurt the body, and even promote more fat burning during workouts. Also when would a wrestler need to switch off of this to a more energy rich meal prior to competition to have the fuel needed for a weekend competition?

Ok we have a plenty of team state topics going on so Ifigured with the first meets of the season just around the corner this would be a great topic to bring up. Does anyone have any recent studies or new information about what wrestlers should be eating prior to the wrestling meet. This is asked with the idea that a wrestlers weight is in check and he can do the proper thing by eating at least small portions of food thoughout the time leading up to the meet. I also see this as completely different from a proper weight cutting diet (which can be a whole new topic) as it is not trying to find ways to burn excess wieght but rather ways to store up energy for a upcoming competititon. For those weekday duals what is good for the day before, morning of, and throughout the day, and prior to the start of the meet. For the long haul weekend multi-duals is their any adjustments to the morning of and the throughout the day parts since a wrestlers will be using much more energy up during the course of that day compared to a dual. I have some general information I have found through the year about fueling the body but almost all of it is just general to doing any activity. Anything more specific to wrestling since at least the weight managment issues, long weekend meets, and the idea you don't want certain items sitting in your stomach& digesting as you are contorting your body in a match are unique compared to most other sports?

To be correct according to the rules you would expect them to be close to their weight management goal for that week. If they follow that weight plan then it would tell you what weight they can go at the meet and thus approximately what weight they should be close to for wrestle offs as well.

I believe Triple B was planning on working on it when he recovered from injury and had some free time on his hands. I would say we would at least know more about who is doing well and what weight they are going by winter break. Until then its just guess work anyways.

No I was pointing out we should not make the assumption of why certain coaches are in that group other than they are experianced and knowledgeable about the area teams. Because if so we could easily say the reason these certain teams are ranked is specifically because their coaches are on the rankings committee instead of because their teams have a track record of preforming well.

Well 80% of the coaches are also from the teams the regularly are in the rankings to for that matter. I would assume they were picked for being consistant coaches that have a track record of knowing all the school in that area.

First this event sounds like it has a lot of potential to help some of the better teams in the area that do have this travel restritions put on them. I hope it works out. I would love to see the rule adjusted to just say Indiana teams can not travel more than 600 miles (round trip). Thus allowing them to face anyone who is willing to travel to inside that 300 mile distance. If other state are good with open travel rules who are we to worry about them. As long as Indiana teams stay within their 600 mile (round trip) boundary areas I think the purpose of the rule has been accomplished. It would sure open up some of our top teams to invite some great out of state competition or to attend some of the nations top wrestling events. If the worry is we would be facing too much out of state competition then just adjust to rule to says a team must face so many in-state teams in that given year or is only allow so many out of state competitions in a given year. We shouldn't hinder some of the best teams from proving their worth just because one or two teams at the event come from beyond the boundary but the rest are well within it.

Good representation by several deserving Indiana wrestlers.

Y, I know its late and you have reached your class wrestling debate limits but please feel free to stop being devils advocate (negative nancy) and give us some constructive input on how this matter can be helped. If something doesn't sound right feel free to tweek it and improve on it. Not just cut it down and act as if its the stupidest suggestion ever proposed. At least these guys are trying to make something happen to help keep part of the sport alive. For someone who wants to best grow and preserve the sport I would think you would want as many wrestling related events as possible to continue on. Seems like anything that is being taken away from wrestling would be working against that type of goal. I guess if you want to let team state die thats fine. I'm not sure how that helps your agenda's but but just say you want it gone and leave it. But at least let these guy try to do something if they feel they can find enough people of like minds that want to try and preserve it. Or for that matter feel free to adding something useful that will help them get more organization in the coaches association or more pull with the IHSAA. Seems like both of those topics I hear more about how they are broken and not as much about how to fix them.

IHSAA seems to not be a great fan of the individual state Coaches trophy. Which is their issue since I believe its worth rewarding to a coach who best prepared his individuals for that tournament just the same as if a Outstanding Wrestler Award was given. Reguardless, since they seem uneasy about that award I don't see them wanting to use the event to recognize other teams with medals based on end of year team rankings. To me they would feel that would be underminding "their event" which they sponsor and set up the process for. I agree it would be a way to boost support and recognize quality small schools teams but I see no way it would pass their approval. On another note though. I'm all for somehow getting a sincere invitation out to everyone on the IHSAA board so they can see first hand what team state actually is and what it can be. If they don't see what it is for themselves all I'm affraid they will just look at the number (which they can claim was a fluke year based on us going to lose it) and still decide it worth canceling. However, if they can see the event for what it is and even hear from fans the positives about it maybe that will help them understand why its worth keeping.

The point does keep twisting and changing so it is getting hard to follow. If its not a point to be discussed then it should be brought up. What were the main point that are are being discussed and evaluated again? And I could imagine at most schools not named Perry or Mishawaka you would need to go up or down a few weight classes to find a talented enough individual to push a state qualifier to where they need to be. Numbers in the room doesn't always mean you are getting upper level talent around that specific weight class. Sure that a valid point for a quality practice partner but not seeing it a a great point to show class individual is a must. Some of the other point seem to be much better for that argument. And yes we should could have used him in all those sports so the next guy like him you get please send them down here Joe.

http://www.tribtown.com/sports/team-25785-cancer-night.html

Hinkle on Flo mentioned Cashe was stil working on getting his weight control figured out.

He was a young phenom as evidence by some youtube clips. He has move on to be an effective youth coach and now is working is way to improving the college level ranks, as well.

Correction for 152. Carpenter is attending Columbus East this year and will be in recovery from recent tenden surgery this season.

They have been talking about starting a Club Wrestling program for probably well over 10 years now at at Ball State. But last I heard little university support existed and financially it was a still an issue. I agree Indiana would benifit from another DI program and the MAC conference would be a great one to be in. However, Ball State really doesn't seem to be concerned about adding male sports being that they have dropped several over the last few years to comply with the NCAA schools weak interpretation of satisfying Title IX.

Oh do it now it would be my best chance of making the 103 rankings.

Not sure if they are going to rerun the episide a few times over the evening but ESPN did a short interview the Kyle Maynard (congenital quadriplegic wrestlers turned MMA fighter) about his life and his upcoming MMA fight.

At this point this is not the rankings but a starting point for them. I was hopeing I could save someone some time in creating the rankings by providing a list of semi-state qualifiers (and a few top guys off injury) to work from. Sorry if I missed a returning semi-state qualifer. Let me know who it is and where and I'll be glad to add them to the list of names. This name database for the rankings includes: --Returning semi-state qualifiers (and a few top guys off injury) --the wrestlers current grade --last years weight classs If someone with a good knowledge base want to take this list and organized it, move kids to projected weights, and come up with a rankings be my guest. 103 lbs. Luke Schroeder 12 Hanover Southwestern Alonzo Shepherd 11 Jeffersonville Gideon VanHook 11 Evansville Reitz Evan Vibbert 12 Evansville Matre Dei Austin Pettijohn 12 Franklin Anthony Schoettle 10 Center Grove Kayne Pike 12 Bloomington South Tyler Ruble 12 North Putnam Devon Orben Columbus North Greg Engelking Jennings County Adam Concannon 11 Mitchell Lorenzo Turi 11 Evansville Central Caleb Happel 12 Floyd Central 112 lbs. Jacob Boomsma 12 Bloomington South Cody Kendle 12 Pike Central Luke Welch 10 Castle Logan Wedding 10 Evansville Memorial Dusty Kief 12 Franklin Austin Jamison 11 New Albany Marshall Holwager - Jennings County Brayden Montgomery 10 Danville Tim Dunkel 12 Gibson Southern Robby Taylor 12 Madison Jake Swigert 11 Mooresville Zach Thomas 11 Floyd Central Steven Reiker 12 Columbus East 119 lbs. Neal Molloy 10 Danville Baron Reiker 12 Columbus East Trevor Moody 11 Evansville Reitz Joey Resch 11 Jennings County Justin Wolf 11 Charlestown Jake Lannert 11 Evansville Mater Dei Alex Griesemer 12 Princeton Tyler Sykes 10 Bedford North Lawrence Justin Olinger 12 Forest Park Brady Meenach 10 New Washington 125 lbs. Ethan Raley 12 Indian Creek Michael Brown 12 Castle Jonathon Hoehn 11 Mt. Vernon (Posey) Anthony Kerr 12 Edgewood Dakota Case 12 Terre Haute North Tre Marler 10 New Albany Jordan Judy 11 Danville Kaleb Chambers 12 Jasper Zach Henderson 12 Evansville Mater Dei Derek Lunsford 12 Pike Central Zach Reiker 12 Columbus East Seth Seitzinger 10 Bloomington South 130 lbs. Quinn Schroeder 12 Evansville Mater Dei Kalob Heald 12 Cascade Jordan Mann 12 Castle Cody Byrer 12 North Knox Preston Wilson 12 Whiteland Robert Stewart 12 Owen Valley 135 lbs. Renaldo Weekly 12 Jeffersonville Blake Rueger 11 Evansville Reitz Andrew Konrath 12 Mt. Vernon (Posey) Jordan Jansen 12 Terre Haute South David Hodge 12 Evansville Memorial Bryce Jones 12 Southridge Caden McGaha 12 Columbus North Lane Massingham 12 New Washington Cole Vanhorn 12 Franklin Zach Hays 11 Center Grove Jonathan Keith 12 Evansville Central Tom Denny 12 Floyd Central 140 lbs. PJ Montgomery 12 Terre Haute South Ethan Farmer 11 Bloomington South Tyler Raben 12 Evansville Mater Dei Austin Chamberlain 12 Evansville Central Austin Bowman 11 Franklin Roy Whetstine 12 Evansville Memorial Zach Adams 11 Madison 145 lbs. Doug Welch 12 Castle John Sims 12 Evansville Mater Dei Matthew Prasek 12 Evansville Memorial Dalton Clements 12 Monrovia Cory Ingram 12 Southridge Spencer Hays 12 Center Grove Cory Suddeth 11 Charlestown Tsali Lough 11 Terre Haute South 152 lbs. Chad Welch 12 Castle Quincy Richey 11 Brown County Dustin Parrish 12 Plainfield Blake Marshall 12 Mt. Vernon (Posey) Gabe Holt 12 Columbus North Tyler Rickenbaugh 12 Heritage Hills Levi Speth 12 Christian Academy JoeyJuliano 11 Mooresville Ben Farmer 12 Bloomington South Sean Mappes 11 Center Grove Andrew Wise 12 Mitchell 160 lbs. Trey Reese 12 Indian Creek Justin Baldwin 12 Jennings County Jacob Hall 11 Charlestown Dalton Brandenstein 12 Evansville Mater Dei Brandon Marlin 11 Jeffersonville Jesse Vermillion 12 Greencastle Swade Oser 11 Heritage Hills 171 lbs. Drake Stein 12 Princeton Josh Boots 12 Evansville Mater Dei Austin Warren 11 Castle Jacob Underwood 11 Martinsville Garrett Goldman 12 Bloomington North Ashton Brierly 12 Columbus East 189 lbs. Aaron Stevenson 12 Indian Creek Cyle Hill 12 Cascade Mark Wise 12 Brownsburg Ryan Sandwith 12 Evansville Memorial Iyan Bass 12 Jennings County Nelson Bowen 12 Jeffersonville Joe Tucker 12 Jasper 215 lbs. Mark Collett 12Jennings County Keith Knura 11 Franklin David Knight 12 Terre Haute North Justin VanWinkle 12 Evansville Mater Dei Trevor Phillips 11 Mitchell Ryan DeWitt 12 Corydon Central Jimmy Pratt 12 Jeffersonville Quincy Pirtle 12 Avon 285 lbs. Kaden Suter 11 Martinsville Jake Stevenson 12 Indian Creek Elijah Curtlay 12 Jeffersonville John Slaten 12 Charlestown

Bump. Looks like our coaching staff will be shooting for the 8:00pm Saturday show. I e-mailed Greg to let him know at least that show may be a slightly wrestling friendly audiance and he said he would be sure to throw in a few more wrestling bits throughout that act.