MD92

1 hour ago, tigroscr said:

What if you have replay officials watching matches and they can make a decision in between periods. That way you have less down time. 

Can't do it in between periods because that would potentially alter the rest of how that period played out.  You would have to stop the action as soon as possible.

9 minutes ago, TeamGarcia said:

Obviously you don’t get it, Notorious will call anyone of you trolls out . Look at the Topic . If your not bring any relevance to these wrestlers don’t comment. Try stop tagging Notorious, that guy a clown and will make you look silly on here . He’s a entertainer. He’s lives for these moments. He thinks your his media . 

its not hard .... bring some facts . 

TeamGarcia brought it . 

Sig40 brought it . 

Or just comment who would win after the facts are read. Could care less what  about your opinion about me if it’s trolling or not . Just like the others have . Not hard or is it.

The Notorious 

Are you still drunk from Saturday night's celebration?

4 minutes ago, Galagore said:

Do you have any opinions on the rest of the small schools?

No, surely the fans of the other 150+ small schools can provide that insight.

4 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said:

Thanks for your awesome insight on how Mater Dei would do. Everyone was extremely curious, but since you did the math you showed that Mater Dei would do extremely well against small schools. Without your indepth analysis we would have never known.

Now let's focus on the small schools that had an average of 4.3 forfeits per school this year. 

So opinions on hypothetical issues/scenarios involving MD are not accepted here.  Got it.  Keep fighting the good fight.

5 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said:

Mater Dei would NOT be forced to stay in the small class. That is not an opinion, that is a FACT. 

Per the IHSAA By-Laws
2-3 Classification by Enrollment; Different Classes Assignment; Change Class Assignment

School enrollment figures used for classifying Schools shall be the enrollment in grades 9-12 for all students, as certified in the annual report filed with the State Department of Education in a classification year.
a. Schools with single gender enrollment shall double the certified enrollment figures for classification purposes.
b. A School may be assigned to different Classes in different sports.
c. A School shall be assigned to a Class by the IHSAA and shall enter the IHSAA tournament in that assigned Class unless it notifies the Association, in writing, that it wishes to move up One (1) or more Classes. This notification shall (1) accompany the submission of the School’s enrollment figures and (2) be effective for the succeeding Two (2) years. A School may choose to move up in a specific sport/s.

 

Now that we have Mater Dei cleared up we can focus on the other 300 schools with wrestling.

Well aware of that, thanks.  I was giving my opinion on what would/could happen if there was ever a split to the individual tournament.  At no time did I say it was a fact.  In fact, I believe that MD would continue in the larger class just as they do with the dual state tournament, which I clearly stated in my original post.  My second post was merely, again MY OPINION, on how things could have played out this year if there were two classes and if MD opted to stay in their enrollment class.

And since one of your main arguments for class wrestling is that it would give more exposure to kids from smaller schools, I figured it was entirely appropriate to voice my opinion on how MD could have fared this year is such a system.  Being in their assigned enrollment class would certainly give more exposure (i.e. state medals) to several more MD kids.  Don't you agree?

1 hour ago, Y2CJ41 said:

This isn't about Mater Dei. Believe it or not there are 300+ schools in the state that are not called Mater Dei.

And there was a specific question asking if MD would be forced to go into the smaller class, which I gave my opinion on.  I also gave my opinion on how I believe MD would have fared in the lower class of a two class system if it was in place this year.  Is that not allowed now?  I hope the other 300+ schools in the state can share their opinions on this matter without the snarky comments from the administration.

If MD wrestled in the lower class of a theoretical individual class state tournament, in my opinion, this is how they would have placed this year.

106 -  Freeman champ

113-  Ross finalist.  Only Dalton from Monrovia was a placer from the small class

120 -  boarman champ

126 - Egli top 4 - only Watts was a placer from the lower class

132 - Egli top 4 - only Gimson and Johnson were placers from the lower class

138 - Mayer top 8 - was eliminated at SS by 5th place finisher Reynolds from Avon

145 - Lee champ

152 - Dickens champ - Highest placer among the small schools at 152

160 - Sollars top 6 - several smaller schools represented at this weight this year

170 - Parkinson top 2 - only Fielden was a higher placer from small schools

182 - Pierson SQ - Eliminated by Jasper at SS

195 - McGrew SQ - Eliminated by Martinsville at SS

220 - Boots DNQ

Hvy - Woodruff DNQ 

14 hours ago, SWINfan said:

If you split to two classes, is Mater Dei forced to wrestle with the smaller schools?  Is there any other school that voluntarily wrestles out of their "class" for the Duals State Title?  With less than 500 students, would MD kids be better off dominating "Class A" or competing with the big boys?  

If it is all about "exposure" and getting kids looked at by colleges, MD would be better off staying in the smaller class and picking a lot more individual titles and placers.  But realistically they would opt to go the bigger class like they do for team duals.

3 hours ago, BackyardChamp said:

Brayton lee would smash Nick lee, then pin Joe lee directly after his match with nick 

Let us know when B.Lee is a true freshman all-American....

10 minutes ago, RaiderColfax said:

Was it to his back? I couldn’t remember. I do remember red getting a cradle in but couldn’t remember if lee had him on his back

Fireman's straight to his back to go up 4-0.

3 minutes ago, BackyardChamp said:

I love how we dismiss this guy wasn't the best in weight class for 3 years 

Wow.  Lee as a senior would have waltzed through the state.  No question about it.

That's almost like saying B. Lee got pinned at semi-state his frosh year to avoid getting beat by Nick.  Or him dropping to 138 to avoid both Nick and Joe.

Quick, somebody post a still shot of Garcia flat on his back as he rolled through so we can argue if he self pinned or not.

Believe it or not, I'm on the fence with this one.  I tend to give Lee the nod (I know, I know...homer) strictly on his dominance.  Here's a reminder of his 2014 post season run starting at semi state.  I don't see the brackets for sectional or regional that year, but I'm confident that he teched or pinned his way through those as well.

Evansville Semi State

Tech Fall Payton Reese, Franklin 23-7 3:19

Fall over Brent Haynes, Charleston 2:20

Fall over Elliott Malloy, Danville 2:27

Fall over Quenton Harris, Avon :34

State

Fall over John Hunting, Rochester, 1:26

Fall over AJ Belden, Westfield, 1:50

Loss to Micic 10-3

Tech Fall over Erique Early, 24-9

Still shots are useless to determine a pin.

13 hours ago, indypharmd said:

Apples and oranges with argument above,the other schools take kids from something called a “school district.” When “our middle schools” encompass the greater Indianapolis area, there’s a difference, just saying...  

i grew up in Wabash County and wrestled at a small 1A school that fed into the Huntington North sectional and Ft Wayne regional never could get past Tony Roush... A lot of great wrestling in the late 80s and early 90s from that corner of the state!

Really applaud what Jake O’Neill is building in Wabash. But, really glad I’ve lived in the Burg for the last 20 years and been a small part of the local club getting to see Drake, Drew, Logan, Griffin and Thierry and others become the wrestlers they are. Just a small community west of 465 in #thecounty

Just a small community with 2400+ kids roaming the halls.

Two of the best freshman I've seen.  Who wins this hypothetical match up?  Both were at 126.  Mendez was obviously an undefeated champ.  The only thing that kept Lee from winning was #1 in the country Micic.  Lee bonused everyone that year (aside from Micic).  Who you got?

8 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said:

Everyone knows we should have two classes, no more, no less.

 

that's debatable

Oh, and congratulations on the state title.

40 minutes ago, Gasman said:

I didn’t like it either. Call me an old timer but I thought it was disrespectful. Especially for someone who has never been there before. His own teammate Garcia always acts with class. You would never see Howe, Angel, T-shirt’s eat a sandwich in that moment. 

He's clearly a very talented wrestler, D1 recruit, state champ, etc.  Unfortunately, people will be talking about the sandwich rather than his wrestling for a couple of years.  I know it is all in good fun, but seems out of place.

This place would be boring if we all go along and just agreed all the time

Oh, I'm not offended at all.  I can just see why some people don't like it, whether it is him, Mark Hall, DeSanto, whoever.

23 hours ago, doctorWrestling said:

I have tried to like Red despite my initial impression of his dad celebrating after he beat Lee, but I just can't get behind him.  I saw an instagrap clip of him doing some weird dance or something after he beat Iowa last week and then walking back to the center of the mat leaning backward.  I love to see some guys celebrate like Mark Hall and others who seem to find a way to make it fun.  Penn State seems to have mastered it.  I can't say exactly why Red's rubbed me the wrong way, but it only reinforced my impression of him.  Was glad to hear he then went to MN and took a 9-2 loss to McKee.

The Iowa match in particular, he did basically nothing for 6:50 against Iowa's back up and then strutted around like he just knocked off a top 10 kid.

Don't forget to cleverly add "I'm just joking" at the end of your posts when you rip somebody's opinion.

Let's see if this young man can make the most of his opportunity.

Moran has tough match Friday night.  he is the clear favorite, but Cole Ross won't be an easy out.