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  1. You know, it all of the time discussing this it took until this post for it to hit me - that's why those weights are so tough. It's much harder to stay on the football field at a medium to large school when you weigh less than 150-160 pounds, so why not just go ahead and focus on wrestling? At a small school, there are still plenty of linemen that are that size, let alone all of the other positions.
  2. Additionally, everyone might say that it is an individual decision is correct. My initial argument is from the perspective of the person running the program. Should I just insist that the wrestlers keep grinding all spring and fall and say who cares what that means to the other sports teams? What if the other coaches did that to wrestling?
  3. You are correct. We choose to support our athletic department, not just the wrestling team. We choose to have options for our student athletes, not just say, "fall sport is football or you're out of luck; winter sport is basketball or you're out of luck; spring sport is track or you're out of luck." If this happens to the fullest extent, then many small school athletic teams across the board will fold. My guess is wrestling would not be one of the survivors in most schools. Do you think that is an adequate sacrifice to make sure everyone knows that they need to full give themselves to the sport to have a reasonable shot at winning a state medal?
  4. Being referred to as "this Galagore" is my favorite thing about today so far.
  5. Good in theory, but as @Y2CJ41 has pointed out, has not worked in other states. Priority 1 (on this topic) is getting to an individual classed tournament. If we can swing an "ultimate tournament" of some sort, great. But we should not forego the classed individual simply because we won't have a "true champion."
  6. Then let me rephrase my question. In what way is it more beneficial to the success of an athlete participating in a non-classed individual sport at a small school competing in the state tournament?
  7. At a small school, this decision doesn't just affect the individual. It affects the entire athletic program. And if we wrestling coaches at small schools promote to our kids that they should focus on wrestling and with the other teams, whatever happens happens...then that's just not being a good teammate from an athletic department perspective. And even if you can convince me that it is OK to just look out for your sport, what happens if all of the wrestling kids agree with me that they should focus on being as good as possible at one sport, and that sport isn't wrestling? Answer: the wrestling team will fold and there won't be wrestling anymore at Culver Community. I don't want that for wrestling and I don't want that for any of our programs.
  8. So large schools also worry about not having a baseball team because the wrestlers are all focusing on wrestling instead of baseball (or ____ spring/fall sport)? My son is an example I can use. He isn't "finding something else they (he) can be doing other than grinding." He is pitching and catching for the baseball team and working hard at it. He will actually be going in a week or two early to start work with the varsity baseball team before his middle school team practices fully begin. It's baseball season, so I owe it to him and the baseball team to allow him to give that season his full attention, just like he was able to give the wrestling season his full attention. What are some of the benefits of wrestling for a small school?
  9. Everything you are saying is correct...however, at a small school, it is difficult in good conscience to truly push kids to wrestle to get better in the spring. They are busy making sure our baseball, softball, track, and golf teams are as competitive as possible. How would I feel if the baseball coach was leveraging the wrestlers to start tuning their arms up in January? It would p*@# me off. And of course big schools also share athletes. However, if the wrestlers at small schools focus on one sport, the other sports don't do poorly - they cease to exist. Small schools are playing a differnt game. That's why team sports are classed. There is no difference for individual sports. Everyone has to block another individual in football. Everyone has to mark another individual in soccer. You get where I am going here.
  10. I cannot express how sad I am to be reading this thread so late. Yes, we should absolutely have divisions. Small schools are not playing the same game large schools are and should not be competing against them in the same tournament. We don't make the team sports do that, so making the individual sports do it makes very little sense. You can search galagore for all of my other logic. I am too sad to post it all right now.
  11. @KarlHungus - OG contributor and while inactive for a while, still one of the all-time leading posters
  12. Big fan of the three point take down. Also like the 2, 3, 4 point near falls. Both have been fun to watch at the college level.
  13. Culver Community: Matt Hurford 172-11 Career 4xConference Champ 4xSectional Champ 4xRegional Champ 3xSemi-State finalist 3xQualifier - frosh qualifier at 189, which is bonkers 5th place finish 2012 Champ 2013 Fun note: After Matt's freshman year, we were in the post-season meeting discussing goals. When we asked how he thought the season would go he said, "I hoped maybe I would qualify for regional."
  14. Looks like more tickets have opened up. Just need some $100/night hotel rooms within walking distance to open up and I will be putting in for may day off tomorrow...
  15. I would save 5 rows of seats for two hours or find another location and smile, wave at someone attempting to save seats for two hours if it meant we could go back to buying paper tickets with cash at the ticket booths.
  16. Kinda like reaching back on bottom…some things are best learned through experience.
  17. Someone needs to change the title of this thread. My naive self keeps biting on the new posts thinking, "This time they're going to tell me how to get tickets to state at the Ford Center..."
  18. Thank you for the thorough response. We agree on the appropriateness of class wrestling. We disagree on the emptiness of class wrestling accomplishments. I am not sure why or how the schools are, were, or will be placed into sectionals. However, it is hard to argue against this logic: If any of that decision is made based on school size then a future logical conclusion is a classed tournament.
  19. It's just a yes/no question. The logic of the thread seems to have a natural progression toward the class wrestling argument, which has been pointed out by more than one poster. Are you in favor of classing the individual tournament? And since this seems to be more along the lines of what you wish to discuss, then maybe this is a question you are more comfortable answering: Do you feel there is a failure in logic based on geography, school size or both?
  20. Are you in favor of just classing the whole indivual tournament?
  21. Excellent point. If one thinks this kind of discrepancy is unfair, I have no idea how the same person could be against class wrestling.
  22. As I said, their decisions do not always make sense. However, the party line from their end is making geographic equity, not competitive equity.
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