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  1. Thats one of Carlins two way words like balls, its ok to say the batter has two balls on him, but you cant say I think......... One of the best comedic bit of all time, ranks right up there with "Who's on first"
  2. Trine results from the Bud Whitehill national duals in Williamsburg Pa. this past weekend. This tourney had some outstanding individule wrestlers as well as 8 of the top 20 ranked teams in the country. York 25, Trine 22 125: Taylor Boyd (YC) by forfeit 133: Chuck Glatz (YC) by forfeit 141: Chris Albright (YC) MD Forrest Romer, 12‐3 149: Chris Gugliotti (YC) fall Nick Odom, 3:33 157: Elias Larson (Trine) MD Albert Gleichauf, 0‐8 165: Ryan Piper (Trine) dec. Matt Heisey, 3‐1 174: George Markou (Trine) fall Vinnie Biachini, 2:07 184: Alex Martocello (YC) dec. Jason Albert, 10‐5 197: Alex Fleet (Trine) dec. Kyle Minogue, 7‐1 HWT: Dykin Forbes (Trine) fall Joe Erb, 1:37 Springfield 28, Trine 18 125: Dru Thomas (SC) by forfeit 133: Eddie Giron (SC) by forfeit 141: Corey Kozimar (SC) MD Forrest Romer, 17‐4 149: Nick Odom (Trine) by forfeit 157: Elias Larson (Trine) dec. Devin Biscaha, 7‐2 165: John Archambeau (SC) dec. Ryan Pieper, 6‐3 174: George Markou (Trine) dec. Brandon Sundwall, 6‐1 184: Nick Camera (SC) dec. Jason Alber, 5‐2 197: Jeremy Burns (SC) fall Alex Fleet, 5:55 HWT: Dylan Forbes (Trine) inj. def. Ron Fuscon, 2:00 Trine 36, King?s 9 125: Double forfeit 133: Mike Laporta (King?s) by forfeit 141: Forrest Romer (TU) fall James Straight, 3:45 149: Nick Odom (TU) dec. Chris Mazzochi, 6-2 157: Elias Larson (TU) fall Tommy Desir, 6:02 165: Ryan Pieper (TU) dec. Frank Marinucci, 6-2 174: George Markou (TU) by forfeit 184: Mike Reilly (King?s) dec. Jason Alber, 5-4 197: Alex Fleet (TU) fall Kyle Matis, 1:02 HWT: Dylan Fornes (TU) fall Anthony Corigliano, 0:24 Trine 24, Thiel 18 125: Tyler Pier (Thiel) by forfeit 133: Corey Brown (Thiel) by forfeit) 141: Forest Romer (Trine) dec. Michael Klosiewicz, 2-1 149: Mason Konkel (Thiel) dec. Nick Odom, 3-2 157: Elias Larson (Trine) tech. fall Alec Miller, 18-2, 7:00 165: Matt Lowry (Thiel) dec. Ryan Pieper, 3-1 174: George Markou (Trine) dec. Patrick Morris, 6-3 184: Jason Alder (Trine) dec. Billy Roosa, 5-2 197: Alex Fleet (Trine) MD Andrew Riddle, 10-2 HWT:Dylan Forbes (Trine) fall Will Ringer, 5:33
  3. Head butting is such a tough call to make, some call it tough wrestling, others call it brutality. But whatever you call it, get used to it, you see it alot at the next level. As far as checking the oil, that is something that does need to be stopped. If for no other reason then it has to be both painful, and unsanitary to say the least.
  4. Congrats to the Trine wrestling team. They went over to the KNox College Chuck Porter duals, and went 4-0 on the day while giving up 12 points right off the bat by not having their 125, 133 guys there. A number of the guys went 4-0 on the day, and if memory serves, they only lost 4 matches that were actually wrestled, and those were all matches that were very close and could have gone either way.
  5. Ok, I have seen "grasping" called and the accompanying hand signal and how the offending wrestler looked and must have felt as the ref called it. What is the hand signal by a ref for "checking the oil". Not sure why a kid would want to do this, but if it is seen, it should be a very graphic display by the ref so that everyone in the gym knows where you just put your fingers. The embarrassment alone might cause the kids to stop doing it.
  6. Will there be pie at the supper? if so, what kinds. I prefer a nice sugar cream, simple, yet elegant, and oh so yummy. Pecan is also a very nice pie, and you can never go wrong with cherry, or apple. As far as is it to be called supper, or dinner, my wife calls it whatever she tells me to make. This usually involves reservations.
  7. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20483/20483-h/20483-h.htm#page071 EXPLOSIVE SHELLS The word "bomb" comes to us from the French, who derived it from the Latin. But the Romans got it originally from the Greek bombos, meaning a deep, hollow sound. "Bombard" is a derivation. Today bomb is pronounced "balm," but in the early days it was commonly pronounced "bum." The modern equivalent of the "bum" is an HE shell. The first recorded use of explosive shells was by the Venetians in 1376. Their bombs were hemispheres of stone or bronze, joined together with hoops and exploded by means of a primitive powder fuze. Shells filled with explosive or incendiary mixtures were standard for mortars, after 1550, but they did not come into general use for flat-trajectory weapons until early in the nineteenth century, whereafter the term "shell" gradually won out over "bomb." In any event, this projectile was one of the most effective ever used in the smoothbore against earthworks, buildings, and for general bombardment. A (p. 066) delayed action shell, diabolically timed to roll amongst the ranks with its fuze burning, was calculated to "disorder the stoutest men," since they could not know at what awful instant the bomb would burst. A bombshell was simply a hollow, cast-iron sphere. It had a single hole where the powder was funneled in?full, but not enough to pack too tightly when the fuze was driven in. Until the 1800's, the larger bombs were not always smooth spheres, but had either a projecting neck, or collar, for the fuze hole or a pair of rings at each side of the hole for easier handling (fig. 41). In later years, however, such projections were replaced by two "ears," little recesses beside the fuze hole. A pair of tongs (something like ice tongs) seized the shell by the ears and lifted it up to the gun bore. During most of the eighteenth century, shells were cast thicker at the base than at the fuze hole on the theory that they were (1) better able to resist the shock of firing from the cannon and (2) more likely to fall with the heavy part underneath, leaving the fuze uppermost and less liable to extinguishment. Müller scoffed at the idea of "choaking" a fuze, which, he said, burnt as well in water as in any other element. Furthermore, he preferred to use shells "everywhere equally thick, because they would then burst into a greater number of pieces." In later years, the shells were scored on the interior to ensure their breaking into many fragments. ROCKETS Today's rocket projectiles are not exactly new inventions. About the time of artillery's beginning, the military fireworker came into the business of providing pyrotechnic engines of war; later, his job included the spectacular fireworks that were set off in celebration of victory or peace. Artillery manuals of very early date include chapters on the manufacture and use of fireworks. But in making war rockets there was no marked progress until the late eighteenth century. About 1780, the British Army in India watched the Orientals use them; and within the next quarter century William Congreve, who set about the task of producing a rocket that would carry an incendiary or explosive charge as far as 2 miles, had achieved such promising results that English boats fired rocket salvos against Boulogne in 1806, The British Field Rocket Brigade used rockets effectively at Leipsic in 1812?the first time they appeared in European land warfare. They were used again 2 years later at Waterloo. The warheads of such rockets were cast iron, filled with black powder and fitted with percussion fuzes. They were fired from trough-like launching stands, which were adjustable for elevation. Rockets seem to have had a demoralizing effect upon untrained troops, and perhaps their use by the English against raw American levies at Bladenburg, in 1814, contributed to the rout of the United States forces and the capture of Washington. They also helped to inspire Francis Scott Key. Whether or not he understands the technical characteristics of the rocket, every schoolboy remembers the "rocket's red glare" of the National Anthem, wherein Key recorded his eyewitness account of the bombardment of Fort McHenry. The U. S. Army in Mexico (1847) included a rocket battery, and, indeed, war rockets were an important part of artillery resources until the rapid progress of gunnery in the latter 1800's made them obsolescent. Tools
  8. http://athletics.uindy.edu/documents/2010/12/17/2010-11MWCSeeding.pdf?id=1197 This is all from the U of I web site. There will be alot of very talented wrestlers on hand
  9. Ashland Calumet College of St. Joseph's Campbellsville Central Missouri Indianapolis King College Lake Erie Lincoln Limestone Mount St. Joseph's Newberry Newman North Carolina-Pembroke Northern State Ohio Northern Tiffin Trine Truman State Upper Iowa Wabash West Liberty State From the U of I web site.
  10. Yes they are, how else are they supposed to learn the history of this sport. This site has it all right there for you to read. ;D
  11. Perry Meridian Lawrence North Warren Central Roncalli North Central Beech Grove Lawrence Central Southport Franklin Central Ben Davis Pike Speedway Decatur Central
  12. I was not blaming title IX, merely pointing out that we need to do a better job of working in its perameters. As well as fixing the other problems we have within our sport.
  13. U of I is the only D2 school in the state, Manchester, Wabash, and Trine are the only DIII schools in the state that offer wrestling, and as of right now, I believe that only Calumet is the only NAIA school in the state, with Indiana Tech to join them next year. It would be great if there was a way for us to be able to get ISU, BSU, ND, EU, SIU, IUPUI, IPFW to get wrestling programs, not to mention all the other small private schools in the state, but I dont see that as a real possibility. At least not until we can figure out a way to make wrestling a revenue sport, and find an equivilant scholorship sport for the women to compete with football so that title IX can be met.
  14. I dont think anyone wrestles to get publicity, however we ought to be doing everything we can to get the kids that are busting their butts the publicity that they desreve.
  15. After reading 4 pages of responses, I would say a few things. Times have changed, most of the kids are friends, have each others phone numbers, are face book friends. They all know what weight each other are going, and if they are doing ok or not. If you dont believe me, take a look at some of your wrestlers facebook pages, see if there are wrestlers from all over the state, and or country there. Do you think they are not talking? This is a tight knit community, any secret you have will not last longer then the 1st time you try it. After that, someone will ask the kid, how did so and so beat you, from that point on, whatever you did will spread through the wrestlers and they will do 2 things. They will try that move on you, to see if they can beat you with it as well, and 2, they will work against it, so if they have to face the other kid, he cant do it to them. So if a coach wants to keep his wrestlers names out of the paper, off this site, or any other form of publication until the finals of the state series, the only people he is stopping from getting the information are the casual fans, and the family of the wrestlers that find it quite nice to take a copy of the article in and post it on their work place bulletin board to brag about their son getting in the paper. I could care less if he wants to share the info or not, after the 1st home match it will be there anyway, unless he also does not want to print out a flyer, or program in case a conference opponent comes to scout and then actually finds out the name of the 130 pound kid from last year that is now at 135 or 140.
  16. I guess the pride comes from knowing that your coach felt like there was no way you were not going to give up six, so he let you save the team from seeing the other team get a lift. That your coach while he values your work in the room, did not want your delicate mental state get altered by going out and getting your butt handed to you. If you cant tell, I am not a big fan of giving up a match if you have a kid ready to go.
  17. In many of the replies, I see the words "being a champion". This is whats wrong with the sport, tomany kids get told that to get any respect, you have to be a champion. This is not true, I have alot more respect for the kid that starts out, does not win a match his 1st year, but stays with it, and eventually through hard work develops his mind body and spirit to be a productive if not excellent wrestler. Someone that can be counted on to go out and give it his best. Someone that has learned that being the best is not what it is all about, but being your best is all that anyone can ask of you. If that makes you a champion, fantastic, if that makes you a kid that only wins 30% of your matches, great. All anyone can ask is for you to work hard, and develop. I used to be one of the dads that pushed to hard, was abrassive with the refs, and basically acted out of control from time to time. I learned that just relaxing and watching my son develop as a kid, a person, and a wrestler was alot more fun, for both him, and me. To the kids, I would say if you have a dad or coach that drives you to hard, find another adult to talk to about it, use them as a relief valve when things get to hard for you, someone that you can go to in the tough times. To the parents and coaches, I would tell you to remember these are kids we are talking about, listen to what it is you are telling them, and how you tell them. And most importantly, relax, its only wrestling, have fun and enjoy this while it lasts.
  18. Yeah. we have all done that to someone only to have it pointed out to us that we misread, or mis-heard, or did not have all the facts. Then we are left looking down at our feet, saying; Sorry, my bad.......I say enough stupid things so often that I have developed athletes tongue.
  19. I think you are reading that wrong. I read it as he is saying that if he sees you do it, and it would have cost the team a point IF an offical saw it, then there will be punishment handed out. I dont think he was saying you only get sat down when an official sees something. Just my opinion, I could be reading it wrong. I have been told many times by my wife that I am wrong often.
  20. I thought a perfect schedule would be one that never ended. Wrestling year round...... ;D Who needs football or basketball.
  21. I think they were there last year, it might just be a club team, or I could be wrong. My wife loves to point out when I am....Also, the Trine web site says a noon start time.
  22. Not having ever been a coach of a team, I would say that super duals would be better for overall team building and amount of matches for all kids on your team, but that tournaments would be better for the studs on your team to get them ready for the state series.
  23. the 1pm comes from the Manchester web site, so as far as I know it is accurate. As far as teams there, Trine, Wabash, Manchecter, U of I, St. Francis, I also believe that Lincoln will be there, not sure about CCJC. It would be nice to see them as well. The brackets wont be posted until after weigh ins.
  24. This Friday, Manchester college will host the Little state wrestling tourney. Wrestling starts at 1:00 pm friday, and continues at 9:00 saturday morning. A lot of former Indiana high school wrestlers will be there.
  25. On top of the added recognition an event like this would draw from college coaches, and possibly the media, just think of all the discussion it would avoid on the rankings early in the season. No, on second thought it would just change to why was so an so not invited, he placed higher at regionals last year than that kid did, he would have won hands down.
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