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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from Cricket21 in Is this move legal in high school folkstyle?   
    No, the Back bow is illegal and was an added point of emphasis this past season.
    2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Rules p.36 Rule 7-1-5q also, see p.77 picture 83.
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from baileyjmckivitz in Is this move legal in high school folkstyle?   
    No, the Back bow is illegal and was an added point of emphasis this past season.
    2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Rules p.36 Rule 7-1-5q also, see p.77 picture 83.
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    jlittlejohn reacted to bsisson in Kyle Todrank   
    Not my greatest wrestling memory but I tell the story of getting booed out of Rec Hall. I was wrestling heavyweight at 205 and lost 6-2 to 2 time AA and MMA fighter Pat Cummins.  I was just trying to survive and stalling a lot. I can still here those boos and that wasn't in their strongest years.😂😂
    I'm sure he will one day tell the story because it is a good story. 
    The other funny part of that trip was when Greg Schafer and I were in the van together he said "Sisson I liked you when you were wrestling 184 but the minute you started wrestling heavyweight I hated you. I hate all heavyweights!" My feelings would have been hurt if the giant Mt Dew I was drinking and Doritos I was eating at the time didn't taste so good. 
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    jlittlejohn reacted to redcobra in State brackets on track changed!   
    This error had nothing to do with the IHSAA ... they have been busting it on your behalf and are working hard to make this a great experience for everyone.   If you have to throw someone under the bus throw me.  Mark Durham.  The buck for this TW mistake has to land somewhere.   They were built this morning while I was in transit from some Evansville events back to Indy ... I should have pulled over at the Exit 87 Country Mark gas station on I69 south and checked them before they went public.   I didn't.   As it turns out they were set-up correctly, but there is a little check-box at the bottom of the build screen that says, more or less, "use saved lines instead of default lines" ... well, it needs to be checked and wasn't.   And you know the rest of the story.   Again, I am sorry.   
    The "Show" was fantastic.  
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from runner-up in Rules question   
    So, to put some clarity on this situation, after speaking with the official involved. There was a scoring error. The offensive wrestler had only earned a 2-point nearfall, which, did not earn the technical fall; therefore, wrestling was allowed to continue. The scorekeeper erroneously scored it as a 3-point nearfall which created the confusion. This,  in fact, was a computation error, however, once it was brought to the tournament director's attention a conference with the official ensued and it was confirmed that the technical fall was never earned, thus, the reversal and subsequent fall were legitimate. It is unclear if the score was ever corrected in Trackwrestling, however, the correct result was entered. This may explain why the coach did not address the situation, immediately, it sounds like they may have been well aware of the correct score in real time.
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from backtothemat in Rules question   
    So, to put some clarity on this situation, after speaking with the official involved. There was a scoring error. The offensive wrestler had only earned a 2-point nearfall, which, did not earn the technical fall; therefore, wrestling was allowed to continue. The scorekeeper erroneously scored it as a 3-point nearfall which created the confusion. This,  in fact, was a computation error, however, once it was brought to the tournament director's attention a conference with the official ensued and it was confirmed that the technical fall was never earned, thus, the reversal and subsequent fall were legitimate. It is unclear if the score was ever corrected in Trackwrestling, however, the correct result was entered. This may explain why the coach did not address the situation, immediately, it sounds like they may have been well aware of the correct score in real time.
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from feez in Rules question   
    So, to put some clarity on this situation, after speaking with the official involved. There was a scoring error. The offensive wrestler had only earned a 2-point nearfall, which, did not earn the technical fall; therefore, wrestling was allowed to continue. The scorekeeper erroneously scored it as a 3-point nearfall which created the confusion. This,  in fact, was a computation error, however, once it was brought to the tournament director's attention a conference with the official ensued and it was confirmed that the technical fall was never earned, thus, the reversal and subsequent fall were legitimate. It is unclear if the score was ever corrected in Trackwrestling, however, the correct result was entered. This may explain why the coach did not address the situation, immediately, it sounds like they may have been well aware of the correct score in real time.
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from bsisson in Rules question   
    Keep in mind the specifics of this situation and the rules as quoted directly from the 2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Rules book. Various situations have different criteria for what can be changed and the time line involved, specifically, tournament (this case) vs. duals.
    The term to focus on is "earned", not, awarded. Again, once the technical fall has been "earned" the offensive wrestler cannot lose. With regard to other near-fall situations, a 2 or 3 point near-fall may be earned, yet, not awarded for various reasons; most often to allow for the near-fall situation to be concluded or possibly escalated. such as, a 2 point near-fall being escalated to a 3 point near-fall within the same sequence. Near-fall is not awarded at the conclusion of fall, because, once a fall has been secured the near-fall no longer exists; near-fall is exactly that, a "near-fall" or almost a fall, therefore, once a fall has been awarded there is technically no longer a near-fall in that situation. That is why near-fall is not awarded at the conclusion of a fall. 
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from nkraus in Rules question   
    If the offensive wrestler was subject to a defensive fall, after having 'earned' a technical fall, the match would then be stopped and the offensive wrestler would still be declared the winner; again, once the technical fall has been 'earned', the offensive wrestler cannot lose the match. If the technical fall is "earned" while the defensive wrestler is in near-fall criteria you simply hold off on awarding the near-fall score (that has already been "earned") to allow the offensive wrestler to continue to work for the fall until the near-fall situation has concluded; by fall or surrendering the near-fall scoring hold or maneuver and/or position. 
    2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Rules   Page 23   Rule 5-1-4-a&b
    a.  if a takedown or reversal, straight to near-fall criteria creates a 15-point advantage, the match shall continue until the near-fall situation has concluded.
    b. once the technical fall has been earned, the offensive wrestler cannot lose the match.
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from slice60 in Rules question   
    As long as neither wrestler had wrestled their next match this was correctable, if the review of the computation of the score confirmed there was an error; however, once either wrestler begins their next match the opportunity to make the correction ends. If this were to occur in a placement match the 30-minute rule would be enforced being that there would be no additional matches to be wrestled and then team score being effected would be the point of contention for correction which is limited to 30-minutes of the official posting of team scores. Keep in mind this scenario applies strictly to tournaments.
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from cbarnett in a few questions   
    1) is green always “home” and is that a rule?
    Green has been traditionally designated for the home team in dual meets. This is in large part due to the design of scoreboards, specifically, because the "home" team on the left of the scoreboard is most often highlighted in green, while the "guest" team on the right is similarly highlighted in red. This is in line with the colored wristbands the officials wear to signal scoring. However, it is no longer mandatory and may be adjusted by the official. In recent years this has become more commonplace, for example, it only makes since to designate a visiting team wearing green and/or a home team wearing red, green and red respectively. Furthermore, in tournament competition, hand written or computer generated bout sheets may pre-designate wrestlers as "home"(green) and "guest"(red), however, it is easily changed on the sheets and with the widespread use of computerized scoring; i.e. Trackwrestling, Flowrestling, etc., it is now even easier. Basically, making red, red and/or green, green simplifies scoring for everyone; officials, scorers, coaches and spectators alike and is encouraged.
    2) is the match over with the slap of the mat or the whistle? Example...an official at our HS tourney said today that in terms of if time is out or not you go by the whistle and not the slap of the mat.
    Actually, the match is terminated once the official recognizes that a fall has occurred. This obviously occurs prior to both the whistle and/or the slap of the mat. The whistle and/or the slap of the mat are simply apparatuses to signify that a fall has occurred. Naturally, there is a brief amount of "reaction time" for the official between recognizing the fall and signally it.
    3) pertaining to a head scissors (with or without an arm): in what positions can there be a draping scissors? The only one I can think of is in an Iranian. I had an official tell me it was draping when both athletes were on their hip and the offensive wrestler was stepping over for a turk from the Iranian. Is there anything in the rule that says anything about pressure against the head? I am not seeing it. I understand that for a DRAPING scissor the rule states that pressure would have to be there. However, under illegal moves it says the straight head scissors (arm included or not) is illegal. There is nothing about pressure at all.
    2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Rules, page 78, picture 89 (caption) Rule 7-1-5...
    (7-1-5) This draping head scissor is legal because there is minimal pressure against the head or neck and the arm is included.
    My personal input... The key factors are; minimal pressure against the head or neck with the arm included. I look for the knees to remain bent and no pinching or restraining power of any kind. Think of it this way when considering the term "draping"; your drapes simply hang freely over you windows, therefore, the draping head scissor is the act of hanging freely around the head and neck with an arm included while applying minimal pressure. I will verbally caution the wrestler to "keep it legal" "don't apply any pressure around the head or neck", also, depending on the position and/or action I may stop it for potentially dangerous before it has a chance to become illegal.
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from horseofadifferentcolor in Bow and Arrow   
    2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Rules, page 77, picture 83 (caption)... 7-1-5q The back bow is illegal as illustrated by application   A clarification regarding the back bow If Nearfall criteria has yet to be met and the offensive wrestler grabs the leg and uses it to turn or attempt to turn his opponent it is to be immediately called as illegal and the match is to be stopped and one point is to be awarded to the defensive wrestler. If, on the other hand, the offensive man simply grabs the ankle but does not exert any pressure it should be stopped as potentially dangerous and you do not give him the opportunity to make it illegal.   Once near fall criteria has been earned and the defensive man is on his back then the offensive wrestler may post the ankle as long as he does not exert any pressure or pull it towards the head. This would be considered potentially dangerous, however, it is up to the official's discretion as to whether or not he actually stops it or simply "watches" it, possibly even verbally cautioning the offensive wrestler with something along the lines of "keep it legal".   As with all legal holds and/or potentially dangerous holds they can become illegal at any time. For instance, while in a pinning position if the offensive wrestler not only posts the leg but grabs it and pulls it forward then it is obviously illegal.
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    jlittlejohn reacted to FIREPROOF in Who's in,who's out   
    Actually, I'll reply to this post since I happen to be one of the parents of this particular individual.  First of all, I will be the first to say that before this season ever started and Myles was going back and forth on whether not he was going to wrestle, the only thing we asked of him was that if he did indeed start the season that he finished it as that is all we've ever asked of any of our kids. We didn't "allow" him to quit the team. He is almost 19 years old and unfortunately he is technically an "adult". As his parents, there's not a whole heck of a lot we can do! Believe me there have been numerous people, past/present coaches, administrators, mentors, that have tried talking to him. We have literally done all we could to try to get him to complete the season. It's easy to point fingers and say "why would they", "how could they"? Sometimes as parents our hands are tied. We have to let them fail on their own, allow them to make those "adult" decisions and pay the consequences. There's no doubt that he will regret this decision one day. We don't support or agree with his decision but we will love him regardless. If this past year had taught me anything, it's this. I will never again say "that won't be my kid" or "why didn't those parents do something about it" because now we are "those parents".  
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from awood2 in Favorite Coach's Quotes   
    Coach Knue (Tech H.S.), "I think I figured out what your problem is, you're not slow, but, you're not fast, you're just kinda half-fast!" 
     
    Say it to yourself a couple times and the enunciation will come to you ;D
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from NPSmith in ISWA Big Kids Sate   
    That's all on me, as, the director of officials. In the past I've made it a point to move officials around and utilize as many as possible on the championship mat. Quite honestly, I just overlooked it. I had some issues with a few inexperienced officials and I was focusing on watching those mats/matches and moving things around with them as needed. I just flat overlooked it. That being said, not one single issue was brought to my attention involving the championship mat on either day. However, the officials who dedicated their time this past weekend certainly deserved the consideration of working in on the championship mat and I apologize to them for my shortcomings in leadership. I promise it won't happen again. I have worked very hard and have been successful in recruiting some of the best officials in the state to buy into the ISWA program to serve as mentors to younger inexperienced officials at our state final events and I don't want to lose any of the headway I've made in that effort. My apologies to all...!!!
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from Blacknight26 in ISWA Big Kids Sate   
    That's all on me, as, the director of officials. In the past I've made it a point to move officials around and utilize as many as possible on the championship mat. Quite honestly, I just overlooked it. I had some issues with a few inexperienced officials and I was focusing on watching those mats/matches and moving things around with them as needed. I just flat overlooked it. That being said, not one single issue was brought to my attention involving the championship mat on either day. However, the officials who dedicated their time this past weekend certainly deserved the consideration of working in on the championship mat and I apologize to them for my shortcomings in leadership. I promise it won't happen again. I have worked very hard and have been successful in recruiting some of the best officials in the state to buy into the ISWA program to serve as mentors to younger inexperienced officials at our state final events and I don't want to lose any of the headway I've made in that effort. My apologies to all...!!!
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from GWCoach in ISWA Big Kids Sate   
    That's all on me, as, the director of officials. In the past I've made it a point to move officials around and utilize as many as possible on the championship mat. Quite honestly, I just overlooked it. I had some issues with a few inexperienced officials and I was focusing on watching those mats/matches and moving things around with them as needed. I just flat overlooked it. That being said, not one single issue was brought to my attention involving the championship mat on either day. However, the officials who dedicated their time this past weekend certainly deserved the consideration of working in on the championship mat and I apologize to them for my shortcomings in leadership. I promise it won't happen again. I have worked very hard and have been successful in recruiting some of the best officials in the state to buy into the ISWA program to serve as mentors to younger inexperienced officials at our state final events and I don't want to lose any of the headway I've made in that effort. My apologies to all...!!!
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from Coach Hull in ISWA Big Kids Sate   
    That's all on me, as, the director of officials. In the past I've made it a point to move officials around and utilize as many as possible on the championship mat. Quite honestly, I just overlooked it. I had some issues with a few inexperienced officials and I was focusing on watching those mats/matches and moving things around with them as needed. I just flat overlooked it. That being said, not one single issue was brought to my attention involving the championship mat on either day. However, the officials who dedicated their time this past weekend certainly deserved the consideration of working in on the championship mat and I apologize to them for my shortcomings in leadership. I promise it won't happen again. I have worked very hard and have been successful in recruiting some of the best officials in the state to buy into the ISWA program to serve as mentors to younger inexperienced officials at our state final events and I don't want to lose any of the headway I've made in that effort. My apologies to all...!!!
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from sammyg in ISWA Big Kids Sate   
    That's all on me, as, the director of officials. In the past I've made it a point to move officials around and utilize as many as possible on the championship mat. Quite honestly, I just overlooked it. I had some issues with a few inexperienced officials and I was focusing on watching those mats/matches and moving things around with them as needed. I just flat overlooked it. That being said, not one single issue was brought to my attention involving the championship mat on either day. However, the officials who dedicated their time this past weekend certainly deserved the consideration of working in on the championship mat and I apologize to them for my shortcomings in leadership. I promise it won't happen again. I have worked very hard and have been successful in recruiting some of the best officials in the state to buy into the ISWA program to serve as mentors to younger inexperienced officials at our state final events and I don't want to lose any of the headway I've made in that effort. My apologies to all...!!!
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from noturk4u in ISWA Big Kids Sate   
    That's all on me, as, the director of officials. In the past I've made it a point to move officials around and utilize as many as possible on the championship mat. Quite honestly, I just overlooked it. I had some issues with a few inexperienced officials and I was focusing on watching those mats/matches and moving things around with them as needed. I just flat overlooked it. That being said, not one single issue was brought to my attention involving the championship mat on either day. However, the officials who dedicated their time this past weekend certainly deserved the consideration of working in on the championship mat and I apologize to them for my shortcomings in leadership. I promise it won't happen again. I have worked very hard and have been successful in recruiting some of the best officials in the state to buy into the ISWA program to serve as mentors to younger inexperienced officials at our state final events and I don't want to lose any of the headway I've made in that effort. My apologies to all...!!!
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    jlittlejohn got a reaction from UncleJimmy in ISWA Big Kids Sate   
    That's all on me, as, the director of officials. In the past I've made it a point to move officials around and utilize as many as possible on the championship mat. Quite honestly, I just overlooked it. I had some issues with a few inexperienced officials and I was focusing on watching those mats/matches and moving things around with them as needed. I just flat overlooked it. That being said, not one single issue was brought to my attention involving the championship mat on either day. However, the officials who dedicated their time this past weekend certainly deserved the consideration of working in on the championship mat and I apologize to them for my shortcomings in leadership. I promise it won't happen again. I have worked very hard and have been successful in recruiting some of the best officials in the state to buy into the ISWA program to serve as mentors to younger inexperienced officials at our state final events and I don't want to lose any of the headway I've made in that effort. My apologies to all...!!!
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    jlittlejohn reacted to Coach Peck in IHSWCA 2015 Middle School State   
    No offense taken to any of this.  I like to hear feedback and I really feel everyone that has commented so far has done it in a positive manner, and with the best of intentions.  We can always do better.  One of the reasons the tournament has improved over the years is because we have noticed things that need to be improved, and because people have made suggestions for improvement.
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