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Love it when a thread goes "insider joke." You guys ever hear of pm's?
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Hope you are right and your comments are based on some inside knowledge but purely from an outsider looking in perspective, it dont look good.
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I know there are people on this board way more connected on this issue than me but it looks kinda bleak for chs and hhs finding conference homes by 2015/16 school year. I base this statement on the article is this mornings paper which explained that hhs already has its fball schedule in place and, tho it includes 5 sac schools, that doesnt appear to be enough games to make them full fledged conference members unless im missing something. With the fball schedule already in place, can hhs still be let into the sac for the 15/16 school ? What is the sticking point? Sharing of gate receipts? Pretty crappy, imo, if hhs and chs cant find conference homes for the 15/16 school year.
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IMO trash talking is an added bonus for wrestling and at this level (no, I don't believe there is room for show boating or trash talking at the h.s. level) just adds a bit of intrigue. Might bring in a few casual fans, who knows? As long as respect is shown on the mat, what is said off it can only add a little excitement. UFC has this figured out pretty well.
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Couldn't disagree more. Love Burroughs and unless unforeseen injury occurs, doubt there is an American that can derail his Olympic "gold rush" before 2016.
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Loved the "tude" Burroughs displayed during his post match interview vs Dake. Felt he was being slighted or not shown enough respect going into the match (mentioned Flo Wrestling,etc). Loved it when he said his weight class really wasn't that tough with "only" national champs in it and no one with any real international acclaim besides himself. He's doing a nice job of putting a chip on his shoulder which I think will make him only that much tougher. Screw Dake and Taylor, IMO. They can have the spotlight after 2016 or whenever Burroughs is ready to relinquish it because they aren't good enough to take it from him. He has earned this time in the sun.
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Fall b-days are definitely the norm nowadays where it seems years ago kids b-days more fell in the spring. May or may not be true. Kinda like remembering "horrible" winters compared to nowadays.
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Just because a kid turns 15 his freshman year doesn't mean he was held back or started late, per se. My oldest was a 1st year cadet his freshman year (March b-day) and my youngest is a 2nd yr cadet his freshman year (Sept b-day). Could we have started our youngest a year earlier? Can't remember the details but I don't think so. I mean, I suppose we could have if he was uber talented academically. Just luck of the draw as far as we were concerned. However, I do understand what you're asking. A 14 year old state champ is nuts.
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I'll let you know now without a discussion. The # of guys that wrestle 20 to 25 pounds above their weight class is so infinitesimally small that they aren't even worth discussing in regards to this topic.
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Don't believe he's sinister either, just a bit immature in the stuff he brings attention to on this board re weight cutting. I'm all for following the rules as well, I just think how much a kid cuts is his decision and if he's breaking the rules (and many of them do and if you don't believe me I've got some swamp land in Florida to talk to you about) then an opposing coach will notify the proper authorities based on visual evidence, not what is being said on a public board.
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You want to call kids out about skirting the cutting guidelines on this board?
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Often times you are on here commenting on how much a kid is cutting or how "huge" a kid is, insinuating a huge cut. I know you're just a kid who I think graduated last year. However, making these kinds of comments really isn't benefitting anyone, regardless if they are factual. There are IHSAA weight cutting guidelines and, maybe without knowing it, you're really shining a spotlight on kids who may be beyond the boundaries of those rules. I think you crossed the boundary awhile back when you named a kid and then started talking about his his preseason weight from last year. People know when a kid is "sawing a leg off" to make weight just by looking at him. They don't need someone on a public forum bringing attention to it as well.
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I think there is a glaring ommission here.
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I think your school size helps as well. One particular coach at Busco can't demand 24/7/365 committiment to his or her sport alone because it would kill the other sports. Additionally, I would bet your AD would have something to say to that coach if he/she did try and monopolize a student's participation in their sport. To your point about losing weight, I think that is a fair assessment and a legitimate knock against a wrestling program. I know at my kid's H.S. it isn't pushed but I wouldn't say it is discouraged. Frankly, IMO, it's typically the kid that decides he wants to cut, not the coach.
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More of this attitude is needed.
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Most small schools aggressively go after kids, even kids that may not have great grades in h.s. Your average tuition cost was approx $22,500 per year after your scholarship. That's about the cost of going to most state schools (IU and PU are a bit lower than that, but you get my drift). I know that wrestling played a huge role for you in college and I think that's really cool but I bet if you never played a sport in your life throughout h.s. and Mr. & Mrs. Fabio went to Findlay's addmission's office and said said "Jr. really wants to go here but we just can't swing the tuition." My guess is they would have come down to that $22,500 figure without wrestling. That's just what small schools do. They get aggressive and try to match state school's tuition to attract as many kids as possible. It's the dumb kids who's parents have more $ than they know what to do with that pay full price to go to a university like Findlay. No offense against dumb kids or their rich parents and please don't jump down my throat if your kid went to Findlay and you paid full price. I'm talking in general terms. Sports at these small schools are there only as an added bonus to the kids that love their sport so much they can't give it up. Most of, if not all of these athletic departments are bleeding all over themselves, losing $ hand over fist, even the b-ball and f-ball teams lose $. They exist only to hopefully boost enrollment.
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Absolutely correct! I heard Garrett was doing one, or was Avilla?
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There aren't too many, if any, scholarships for wrestling that pay 100% for college at any level. Few D1 schools offer full rides from my understanding. IMO, most kids that wrestle below D1 are doing it for the love of the sport, not because it is paying for their education. Dad brags about Johnny getting a scholarship to wrestle in college but rarely does he tell you exactly how many $ the scholarship is providing. Typically, not much.
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Nah. Like most people on here I enjoy arguing. Not that strange, really.
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ZS Agreed. More impressive is that they are a small 3 a school and would give any 3a besides pm trouble.
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So what you are saying regarding the first point is that ALL high schools in Indiana offer wrestling? What I said was that fewer than 320 offer wrestling and it would seem that you backed me up on that when you said that 310 wrestled in the state series. Guess I've been understanding that fewer than 320 high schools in Indiana had wrestling teams. Please enlighten further as to your definitions. If indeed only 310 schools offer wrestling in Indiana, then we are on the same page because I stated fewer than 320 offered wrestling. 310 is fewer than 320. Sorry but I couldn't remember the exact number of 310. Regarding the second point, I figured that all schools in 3A would offer wrestling but I was sure that as soon as I said that you would find one that didn't and run me into the ground for that error. Just trying to cover my bases. Frankly, the facts you are throwing out are doing nothing to undermine my post or the points I made in my post. EN is in the bottom 1/3 of class 3A, far from a HUGE 3A school. Lumping EN into the more than 400 high schools in Indiana and trying to describe how huge they apparently are in your mind, when looked at from this perspective, isn't fair because the state dual tourney is classed and they are not HUGE, in fact they are quite small, when looked at from that perspective. My point from the beginning. But feel free to ingnore the point. I'm used to that.
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These numbers look pretty skewed when one looks at the pure number of high schools in Indiana. However, there are fewer than 320 schools that offer wrestling. A deeper look shows that, for class pruposes of the ISWCA dual tourney taking place this upcoming season, there are only 20 teams smaller than EN in class 3A, while there are 82 teams larger. Therefore, if there are 103 schools comprising 3A in wrestling (I'm not sure by looking but there could be 1 or 2 of the large schools in 3A that don't offer wrestling), and EN is #83 on that list, that would put EN in the bottom third of enrollment for 3A schools. I know that in the grand scheme, EN is HUGE, but compared to their competition in 3A, they really aren't so huge.
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Yeah, but they're a huge school so I'm not impressed by them at all.
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Who, if anybody, was an IHSAA state champ (215/220 and below) that never went to Fargo or even paprticipated much in the ISWA FS/Greco state tournaments? I'm not being a d-bag asking this question, I really want to know. When guys are being introduced for the finals it seems that the majority of them own some ISWA titles in something other than folk style.
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With all the super duals that take place these days Id imagine it will be a factor at times.