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  1. Watching the big guys in scrambles was awesome. Walker looked slick and quick.
  2. East Chicago I would say Huyvaert v. Walker and Clark v. Beck finals matches.
  3. Agreed with all of the above, the fine folks that do the rankings are not involved in the seeding meetings, nor are the coaches required to use their rankings as criteria. Looking at the brackets, the semi finals have all top 4 seeds other than 113/126/175/190 (which have 3 of the top 4 seeds). I would say in my opinion the seeding still worked out fairly accurate.
  4. In theory it worked out this year, PM won both. I'm a Caveman, and we finished 3rd?? I love my team, but are we the third best?? We weren't even the best team in our conference, or the best team in our City. But with the new scoring, we are the third best in the State? Wake up IHSAA.
  5. Always representing from the N and NW!!!! Everybody thought we were down, negative ghost rider!!!!!!
  6. Perry 2012 may be one of the best ever! Would like to see vs. MHS 2010, but Perry is stacked for the next few years!
  7. Nice # since everybody thought we were down!
  8. Actually a down year for the Al Smith Trny vs. State Finals. Most years there are kids that do better at State than they did at the Classic. But here are the stats: Al Smith State Qualifiers: 48. Al Smith State place winners: 24. Medal winning wrestlers that participated in the Al Smith: 3 State Champs, 2 Runners-up, four 3rds, three 4ths, five 5ths, three 6ths, three 7ths, one 8th.
  9. Nobody will be ranked where they should be if coaches/fans do not correspond with those who do the rankings. Trust me, the magazines/websites that do the rankings do not research every state and every team. They only look to the traditional powerhouse states and teams. They need to be made aware of Individuals and Teams that are worthy of national ranking. I contacted Bob Preusse at Amatuer Wrestling News a couple years ago about some Indiana teams and individuals that deserved National recognition. Since then I get an e-mail at least once a week from the guy looking for updates.
  10. I didn't go through the Top 8 medal winners, but it looks like the Rankings Guy did a great job this year. #1 ranked kids that won a Championship 9/14. State Champs ranked in the top 3 12/14, top 4 13/14. The only wild card was 285, Harvey at #7, but 285 is notorious for having a kid come out of nowhere to take home the title. He had the Champ and Runner-Up ranked in the Top 4 in 9/14 weight classes.
  11. Great evidence of why we need to keep Team State. Indian Creek (great wrestlers and great weekend), is in 2nd place, could theoretically win under the old format. But does anybody really think Indian Creek could beat Crown Point/Yorktown/Perry Meridian/etc in a dual?
  12. From the North, so pretty much neutral either way. But aside from all of the old cliche's, I would bet good money on the 2 timer after having received a wake up call. The kid has to be fired up now to avenge, and going undefeated for two years, those sparks don't come along at all. Then again, he could also have met his nemesis? That is why we all love high school wrestling!
  13. XCard is correct, and really, this is not a big deal. Unfortunately for Brad and the Penn wrestlers they will miss out. But it has happened before, and I'm sure will happen again. This is NOT any form of cheating or shady tactics. It basically is ONE piece of paper. We don't know who is even responsible, but it is a piece of paper that is the reason for this. Human error, it happens. I'm pretty sure the last thing a Head Coach of a Top 10 Team is worried about is a piece of paper, he is concentrating on his team. The AD should be more involved with the IHSAA paperwork. I think the IHSAA discipline is a little harsh, but those are the rules. Let's not assume or elaborate anymore on the issue. (I'm a Mishawaka guy by the way.)
  14. 23 straight for me also, with the programs to prove it! Just seeing the Finals Intros under the lights for the first time as an 8th grader and I was hooked. Being able to witness 4 of the 7 Four Time Champs was pretty cool.
  15. Go back and read the first post on the topic, they weren't making any accusation, it was in the form of a question. They were wondering why the IHSAA has your match as a DQ. Which I've been trying to tell people is a mistake. Nobody was making accusations, it was a question that originated the post.
  16. Confirmed with Devon. Never happened, my bringing it up to him was the FIRST time he had ever heard such a thing. Sorry TAE, but the IHSAA is wrong on this one. I advised Devon to have the MHS Athletic Department contact the IHSAA to correct this, and he will be doing so.
  17. Sorry TAE, but I think you and the IHSAA are wrong on this one. I am a Mishawaka guy, and have never heard of this, right after and until this day. Wouldn't team points for that individual be deducted if he were disqualified?
  18. That is an error. Devon Nelson of Mishawaka was the runner-up. Terry pinned him in the finals for the win. It was not a post-match DQ either, there was a DQ the year, or two years prior that I think the IHSAA mistakenly carried over to the stats for 91-92.
  19. I am one. Went to school with Devon and still see him around, I was there at Market Square. Everybody agrees, he wasn't DQ'd during the match. EVERY record available, other than the IHSAA website, has no reflection of any DQ. I actually emailed the Ancient Elder after I received his first book, which reflected the same stat as the IHSAA. He could not find anything regarding that match other than the IHSAA records. I really think there was just an input error, with the other DQ from 89 being so close.
  20. I'm almost positive Nelson wasn't DQ'd afterwards either. I've never heard anything about it, and if he had been, wouldn't the team points have been deducted? That's the year Mishawaka won, and according to the record books, the team score has never changed since that day.
  21. 91-92 was Devon Nelson of Mishawaka. This is an error, he wasn't disqualified, Terry pinned him.
  22. Yes, this tournament is that tough. I don't feel like digging through old brackets right now, but I can if anybody has doubts. Year after year, kids place higher at State than they did at the Al Smith. Year after year there are numerous "previews" of State Championship matches. Everybody talks about how many ranked kids are at the tournament, wait until the end of the season, and then count how many State Qualifiers wrestled at the Al Smith! If you haven't seen it, you should. If you can't make it, save the final brackets and then compare them to the State Finals program at the end of the year and you will be impressed.
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