Back to topic...agree. If a wrestler (or his coaches) are more concerned with win/loss record and/or ranking I believe it will undermine the achievement of goals. Now to be totally objective...not everyone has the same goals. For some it may be to qualify for Semi State, punch a ticket at State, place at State. A great win/loss record or high ranking will still not help you achieve those goals. If a wrestler's goal is to wrestle under the lights, the best way to achieve that is to have first hand knowledge of the other 15 guys in the state bracket! It is rare to go undefeated, and those that have ended their season without blemish, are the least likely to have ever "dodged" a match up to get there. "Best way to make a name for yourself...is by taking someone else's name away" aka "if you want to be the best, you have to beat the best". Great example is Jacob LaPlace-Mishawaka 138# who placed 4th at State as a freshman. Jacob had 13 losses on his record going into State. The reason that Jacob placed that high as a freshman WAS the 13 losses. That is what prepared him to reach his goal. And I've never heard anyone stick an asterisk next to that accomplishment with a note that says....yeah but he had 13 losses. Is there a wrestler out there that will not admit that they have learned more from a tough loss than from an easy win? From a fans standpoint, we respect a wrestler that steps up for a challenge...win or lose.