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Mater Dei about to upset Avon!

No, Mater Dei got 4th today. They pulled some Mater Dei magic from the old days and squeaked out a win. They battled Center Grove in a surprising close dual. They could go down to 2A if they really wanted to and win every year but that's not in their DNA.

McConnell wrestled 190 yesterday

This may be the top-recycled topic on this board:  Mater Dei is on the slide/cannot compete/no longer relevant/not what they used to be.
 
Go back to the archives of the 2012/2013 board.  MD had two seniors and forfeited two weight classes.  That team was dominated by freshmen and sophomores.  There were several lengthy threads replete with thoughtful and non-partisan observances that the demise of MD wrestling had arrived.  BTW-  That team had two dual meet losses on the season (both to Bloomington South) and finished fifth at the IHSCWA duals.
 
Two years later, MD won said event.
 
Since then, Mater Dei has fielded a couple of competitive teams and won one or two big matches at Gainbridge.
 
This year's edition of the Wildcats reminds me a lot of the 2012/13 team.  Lots of inexperience!  Two of the starters are first year wrestlers.  Do you reckon any of the other seven 4A teams  at the IHSCWA have a single first year starter?   A month ago, this team was hammered by Avon.  MD pulled out the win over the talented Orioles with a spirited team effort.  I love what Center Grove is doing with their program.  They are tough, top to bottom.  Even still, MD put up a good fight and managed to take a couple of chunks of meat out of CG.
 
Tiny Mater Dei has an enrollment of 483 students.  It is a perennial challenge to field a competitive team.  
 
It is amazing how far this team has come in the course of this season.  While I don't see a team State Championship or any future D1 National Champs in this line-up, I consider this product as one of Greg Schaefer and Company's greatest coaching jobs.

No, Mater Dei got 4th today. They pulled some Mater Dei magic from the old days and squeaked out a win. They battled Center Grove in a surprising close dual. They could go down to 2A if they really wanted to and win every year but that's not in their DNA.

Yeah we all heard the code words too my friend..."cultural", "demographic", "good ol boys" , "Chads", "Karens"....you can try to explain it any way you want , but we all knew what you meant. I am done with this thread. I hope you have a good day.

WOW! I usually agree with the General on a lot of things...but turning it racial?? Then to follow it up with the Chad and Karen comment which actually sounds racist?!. Lost some respect there.  Very weak. I know a lot of the wrestlers on Warren and they are great kids. Don't know the reason for the pull out but the reaction would have been the same for any team that did that. Disappointing.

I think turning it to a racial thing is a big leap.  I don't doubt the talk would be exactly the same if it was EMD or perry that just up and left before the last dual of the tournament.  Maybe there was a perfectly good reason for it; maybe the coach even cleared it with Avon/the event staff before they left.  I honestly hope they did, because team state seems like a better tournament with WC there, and removing them over this is only going to hurt their program and their kids in the long run; those kids definitely don't deserve that.  But from the outside looking in, it's not a good look.

Avon got shafted... they were expecting an additional match and Warren Central bounced out. Why?? They actually have a very good team and would have beat PM with a full lineup. 

This is the team I immediately associate with the event due to their history in the previous IHSAA tournament and the current IHSWCA tournament. I know Crown Point and Brownsburg have owned the state duals recently, but for some reason, even in “down” years, EMD never looks out of it and always seem like they’re due to cause a surprise either as a team or with a breakout individual performance. I have a lot of respect for this program and I’m curious to see what takes place on Saturday for the Wildcats.

Unless WC has a valid explanation, they shouldn’t be eligible for Team State next year. Others have mentioned this but this is the type of shenanigans that the IHSAA used to justify eliminating the team portion of the post season. Fortunately the IHSWCA can hold schools accountable for this type of tomfoolery.  

No, Mater Dei got 4th today. They pulled some Mater Dei magic from the old days and squeaked out a win. They battled Center Grove in a surprising close dual. They could go down to 2A if they really wanted to and win every year but that's not in their DNA.

Mater Dei magic!

Avon got shafted... they were expecting an additional match and Warren Central bounced out. Why?? They actually have a very good team and would have beat PM with a full lineup. 

No, Mater Dei got 4th today. They pulled some Mater Dei magic from the old days and squeaked out a win. They battled Center Grove in a surprising close dual. They could go down to 2A if they really wanted to and win every year but that's not in their DNA.

No, Mater Dei got 4th today. They pulled some Mater Dei magic from the old days and squeaked out a win. They battled Center Grove in a surprising close dual. They could go down to 2A if they really wanted to and win every year but that's not in their DNA.

Avon got shafted... they were expecting an additional match and Warren Central bounced out. Why?? They actually have a very good team and would have beat PM with a full lineup. 

No, Mater Dei got 4th today. They pulled some Mater Dei magic from the old days and squeaked out a win. They battled Center Grove in a surprising close dual. They could go down to 2A if they really wanted to and win every year but that's not in their DNA.

+1

Avon got shafted... they were expecting an additional match and Warren Central bounced out. Why?? They actually have a very good team and would have beat PM with a full lineup. 

Avon got shafted... they were expecting an additional match and Warren Central bounced out. Why?? They actually have a very good team and would have beat PM with a full lineup. 

WOW

Stud!
 
pinned the defending state champ and the runner up. 

Stud!
 
pinned the defending state champ and the runner up. 

4A matchup between two nationally ranked powerhouses!!
 
106 Ogle 18 vs Newell 16
113 Dickman 1 vs Lewis 4
120 Haines 4 vs Jendreas 1
126 Haines / Reynolds 4 vs Hawkins 2
132 Hockaday 1 vs Sessa 7
138 Ison 3 vs Shepard 1
145 Reynolds 2 vs Washington 7 / Baca/Jones
152 Gibbs 3 vs Cruz 5
157 Day 7 vs Van Tielcht 10
165 Derring 14 vs Rhinehart 1
175 UR Campbell vs UR White
190 Henry 1 vs Reading 8
220 Brewer 6 vs Clark 1
285 Forrester 4 vs Clark 1
 
Questions-
How much will bumping come into play?
Can Brewer and Forrester avoid being pinned agin by the Clark brothers?
Can Henry rebound from a near loss against UR Mater Dei kid to get the bonus points BB needs?
Can Shephard prove the first match when he beat Ison wasn't a fluke?
 
Tossups (pretty much every match) but 106 and 175 will be huge!
Will Washington be in the lineup? Baca and Jones have wrestled today. Who gets the nod at 145?