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Here is a link to the Trails website

http://www.iowacitytorio.com/

So all those short jokes are sarcasm....phewwww makes a lot of sense

No, the short jokes are meant to keep you down.

Because I'm sarcastic and I know they do mean a great deal.

Per Willie Saylor of Flo Wrestling. But of course these numbers mean nothing.

These parents are spending thousands of dollars a year on travel expenses to out of state and Indy tournaments, academy and/or club membership fees, private coaching lessons, etc. for their kid to compete at a high level...why not have the same parents pay $20 entry fee to the local club (that is hosting the freestyle qualifier tournament they are missing) as a donation as a condition of exemption for the ISWA team kids.

This would lessen the host club burden and the team parents burden of schedule conflicts.

Win-Win again for the time v/s money issue.

Make the suggestion to the ISWA Board. I'm not a Board Member.

My suggestion would be to make a formal proposal to the ISWA Executive Board. Talking about it here does not solve the problem.

This is a perfect solution.  We aren't asking for a waiver or exemption bc we are doing something other then wrestling.  As I said before we were prepared to skip FloNationals to wrestle at Penn's freestyle tournament, but now there is not a freestyle tournament offered anywhere in Indiana that weekend. Penn moving their tournament to april 30th is going to hurt their attendance bc all the region kids that would have wrestled in it will be going to Hanover's freestyle tournament. 

 

GrecoCoach stated that me bringing this up is getting old, but I don't think I am doing enough.  My son has worked his butt off to make these ISWA dual teams as well as prepare himself for USA Nationals and Ohio TOC.  My kid loves to wrestle and because he wrestles every weekend he will not be able to compete at freestyle state, it just doesn't make sense.  He doesn't play baseball or football he wrestles and these next few weeks are some of the best wrestling weekends in the nation and I will not sacrifice him getting these amazing opportunities just to qualify for state.  I feel bad for him because now he won't be able to represent Indiana in the schoolboy duals, but I don't see any other way to get the qualifiers in. So please ISWA board members look into helping the kids that are wrestling every weekend get an exemption into your state tournament.

I am still trying to figure out who this 2 event rule is actual designed to help?  The kids? The clubs who host tournaments? The ISWA? 

 

It is not like there has been a huge resurgence of freestyle tournaments for kids to attend and they are just choosing to ignore all the tournaments.  

It is to help the clubs who are hosting tournaments. It was designed to increase attendance so the clubs who actually stepped up wouldn't lose their shirt hosting an event.

I hope Ian has some good luck in the near future. His Dad was a State Champion in Ohio back in the day. Great family and great kid!

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/Wrestling/2016/03/06/Ian-Miller-MAC-championship-wrestling-story.html?ci=stream&lp=2&p=

I would allow it.

Tom Clark

IHSAA Rules Interpreter

Thanks. I knew about this. I knew Kevin since he was a kid. Great athlete and person.

Officiating isn't easy. In fact, it's very difficult and not even close to being as easy as it looks.  It's kind of like watching golf on TV and then going out and trying to hit some of the shots those guys do. I say things on the golf course I wouldn't say anywhere else.  So, yes I do invite those who criticize the referees to grab a whistle and try it. Even if it's a youth tournament I know they will see how difficult it is. I also know we are not without fault. We are human and make mistakes. The human element will always be a part of any sport. A bad call that costs a kid a match is devastating to most referees.

Coaching isn't easy either. I was an assistant coach and a head coach at the high school level in Ohio before I became a referee. I have sat in your chair and I feel your pain.

To address some of your points...

Backing out of the 10 foot circle without making contact with your opponent is defined as stalling in the rule book.

Dropping down to one knee to entice a locking hands call is defined as unsportsmanlike conduct in the rule book.

Good sportsmanship has been emphasized the past several years and it has been part of the annual rules meetings. Wrestling is an honorable sport and all participants should conduct themselves accordingly.

To address you concern regarding consistency I would ask you why doesn't the worst kid in your room hit a double the same way the best kid in your room hits it? How many ways are there to hit a double? Don't you teach it the same way to both kids?

The answer to that is the same for both wrestlers and referees. Each of us are individuals and unfortunately, no matter how much you teach and coach a technique or idea, we may not all apply it the same way. This is a fact that has been a part of wrestling at all levels from the beginning. This issue doesn't only occur in wrestling, it happens in everyday life as well. Some doctors are better than others, some chefs are better than others, some truck drivers are better than others, etc

Could we do a better job of calling stalling? Yes, I think we probably could. Are we the single factor in holding back wrestling in Indiana? I don't think we are and that is what I took offense to from the beginning of this topic.

Two additional points and then I will move on. First, in my response here it is not my intent to be confrontational. I want to explain my side of this and address Warsaw's concerns. Secondly, these are my opinions and other referees may or may not share those opinions. Here's that consistency thing again. LOL

Tom Clark

Guilty as charged! I actually copied and pasted that from the Ask The Official Page.

My point being we don't need part-time people. We need people who have a passion for wrestling and willing to make a commitment. Which would include being always willing to learn. As in reading what you copy and paste

Part-time job in terms of I will not support my life on it. I love the sport of wrestling. I wrestled for thirteen years and continue to actively advocate for IHSAA wrestling. I am by no means dispassionate about wrestling.

 

Fantastic! I hope to work with you someday.

I actually intend on pursuing refereeing as a part-time job in order to help pay some college expenses! Thanks for the productive post!

Refereeing should never be a part-time job. It should be a passion. Otherwise you will be just like all the other referees who are single handedly holding back wrestling in our state.

There was a heavyweight at madison... Double a, quadruple c..something like that....

Heard he became a Bears fan and he never recovered.

In order to become a licensed IHSAA wrestling official you can follow this link for details on the process.http://www.ihsaa.org...72/Default.aspx
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Specific points about the On-Line Testing Process that you need to know:
- The testing process is an on-line application. No longer do you need to plan to be at
a site on a certain day. You do need to have access to a computer to take the test. You
will need to plan when to take the test within the Testing Period indicated for each sport and
submit your results before the deadline. This is not a timed test.
- No on-site paper and pencil tests will be provided unless you are taking a class in that sport.
- Application Deadlines must be met.
- The test is composed of 100 questions, mostly True-False, but a few multiple choice. You must earn 75% or better on the test to
become licensed.
- You should receive your rules books from IHSAA as soon as they are published and available by the NFHS. If you are testing in more than one sport, the books for the later
seasons will be sent when those books arrive in the IHSAA office. Please begin to study for the test
upon receipt of the rules books.
- You may only take a test one time within a program year. If you do not meet the 75%
standard this program year, you will need to wait until the next program year to apply again.
- You should not apply to take a test in any sport whose deadline dates have passed.
- You should receive immediate feedback on your test results but you may not schedule
contests until you receive the insignias and license card from this office which should come
within 7-10 days after your test is submitted (and you have scored 75% or better).
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Remember, you do not have to be licensed to officiate middle school events or elementary events, and this is a great venue to work and gain experience, especially for those of you who are unsure as to whether or not you actually want to proceed to the high school level. It's a perfect part-time job... especially for a college student. It's a 100 question test that is open book and done online, so you are allowed ample time to complete the examination with little or no stress.
Also keep in mind that nearly all officials begin at lower levels and work their way up, so you will not be thrust into the high profile varsity contest with 3000 screaming fans in the stands. If you like the sport and are physically able, becoming an official is a great hobby that pays well, gets you in the door for free, and gives you the best seat in the house!


 

 

UIndy is Hosting the D2 Regional Friday and Saturday Schedule has it starting at 10AM at Nicoson Hall. Also on Track Cast if you cant make it. 

 

Teams Competing:

Anderson University(SC)

#20 Ashland (OH)

Belmont Abbey College (NC)

Emmanuel College (GA)

King University (TN)

#9 Lake Erie College (OH)

Limestone College (SC)

Newberry College (SC)

Shorter (GA)

#12 Tiffin University (OH)

#14 University of Findlay (OH)

#18 University of Indianapolis (IN)

University of North Carolina-Pembroke (NC)

#6 University of Wisconsin-Parkside (WI) 

 

Ill be around later on Friday and all day Saturday probably in my IndianaMat Gear come say hey! 

 

I think you should contact the last team listed from GA and see if you could wear any of their gear

Lots of great names already. I am going to add Shane Perkey to the list.

I saw TAE at the Hall of Fame Banquet on Sunday. I had a brief conversation with him and he for sure still loves wrestling. It was very good to see him.

I would like to see some additional features....for example how about a group photo of Triple B.

Not only do you have to overcome the Russian wrestlers at the Yarygin Tournament, you have to overcome the conditions, I made that trip in 1993 with guys like Kurt Angle, Tom and Terry Brands, Kendall Cross and Tom Erickson.

This is Siberia! It's 25 below and the competition is in a hockey arena. The ice is still down. There is very little to no heat in the place but, the competition is amazing!

Kinser wore his father's singlet in the finals. The same one his father wore when he won a state title.

If you talk with guys from his era they will tell you he was the very real deal!!

Congratulations!! At least he doesn't have to wear one of those ugly helmets.