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Coach P - Are Carmel mats softer than other mats around the Indy area?
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Where is Jay Manson when you need him? He would be a logical transfer to the Irish this season. Even with Arlington’s rich history, he was one of the most talented ever. These are the instances the IHSAA can’t set rules and regulations for in the transfer game: consolidations and closings.
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I’m both, Doc. Card carrying member of the resistence to the media for years. Been coaching grade school football for years (3rd and up). Been coaching K-8 wrestling for years. Never had a concussed participant. Bunch of garbage being propogated and advertised. At least in grade school and middle school.
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CoachP - Transfers won’t kill the sport, but all the media circus around contact sports and the concussion nonsense just might. There is a major correlation between football and wrestling. USA Football numbers are down nationally by hundreds of thousands in the last 5 years. Parents are just getting more butt hurt about Little Johnny’s mental health. For a sport like wrestling that pushes kids harder than any other, 100% parental buy-in (especially from the mother) is paramount to a long lasting scholastic career in wrestling. The problem doesn’t lie in transfers, it lies in the number of kids that are embracing the sport. If the number of teams and most importantly, the health of wrestling programs stays static, transfers would be significant to a program’s success or demise. But, winning programs/great academic institutions will always attract parents searching for the best for their kid. Further, kids expelled for grades or conduct also predicate moves. So, transfers will always happen whether it is good for the kid or not. Be careful to not assume all transfers happen with wrestlers chasing bigtime programs. More times than not, the transfer is leaving a good program due to grades, conduct, or, in some cases, tuition.
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Cathedral is most likely the Who’s Who of transfers out. We can go 80’s old school with PM’s Coach Schoettle, mid-90s LN State Champ Robert Miller, 2000s Warren Champ Brandon Wright, etc. I’d say we’ve lost IHSAA place winners somewhere in the mid-teens since the LVR years in the 80s. Awesome place to be, but big parental sacrifice. See you lovelies on the mat in 2 short months. Irish have been putting the time in this summer..
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Blair ain’t no $52k. But, no different than open enrollment in Indiana either. Pick yo spot, Matty B.
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3 Ohio transfers/new enrollees? Begs to question who is footing the $52k/annual tuition bill for all these kids at Culver? I know there has been a gold rush in Ohio with Governor Kasich, but just wondering how three plus rasslin’ families are handling the $200k high school tuition commitment. Hard enough getting kids to Indy P/Ps for 1/4 of that.
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Congressman Jordan seems super rattled by all this partisan press. In fact, he is so rattled, he decided to just be Speaker of the House. What a baller.
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Where is GrecoCoach when you need him? David McCubbins (90s) was probably the best Greco wrestler pound for pound we have had from Indiana. MattHasbrook was Greco FILA Cadet World Runner-up in the 2000s. You can’t discount total exposure of the hips and legs and still dominate a match. Hugely important to the complete package. Gotta work a Greco week into your practice regimen. The County sucks. Oh, and since this is a Triple Crown thread, shout out to Kyle Harden (CIA) and 4x Triple.
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Team State Vote-In Results
IndianaWrestlingGuy replied to ENoblewrestling's topic in Past Discussions
Tried to resist, but can’t. Cathedral 2016-17 was 3rd in the IHSAA state and didn’t get invite or a write-in. And, as far as I am concerned, we’ll never get a write-in with the current system. I think Maligned and crew are doing a good job, but the write-in/committee might need to look at criteria differently. -
Both Cathedral and Roncalli have very nice freshmen classes coming in. Roncalli picks up some nice depth in upper weights from CYO St. Barnabas (Butts, Neu, Lewis) and rising 152lbers in Ashton Brandon from CYO St. Mark and Andrew Stuck from CYO St. Roch. I can’t remember if the younger Lowery is an 8th or 7th grader, but he’ll have an immediate impact too. I’ll say now Roncalli is most likely a Top 5 squad next year. We won’t know total enrollment at Cathedral until admissions close next month, but just the depth coming in from CYO St. Simon with Zeke Seltzer makes for a bright future (Dickey, Braun, Gonzalez, Bragg). Both CYO St. Luke and Simon will be contributing greatly to the Irish the next two years and you’ll also get some McGinleys rolling through starting in 2 years from CYO Christ the King. Defintely no where close to the incoming talent of “The County”, but we do alright for “The City”.
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Let’s change the scenario: Take the 32nd place team in the Al Smith: Princeton. I would wager that their attendance at the Al Smith alone vaults them to the 190th best SoS. However, the chance they might have one or two wrestlers face a top ranked Cathedral, Chesterton, or Columbus East kid are slim. Conversely, the chances a Cathedral wrestler faces any of the 3 Indianapolis Arlington or 4 Indy Broad Ripple High School wrestlers in the City Tourney are slim. Both Double digit negative ranked teams. My point is the weighting system for the individual tourneys need to be reconsidered in my opinion. Perhaps they are already considerably less weight, I don’t even know. If they aren’t, they should be less than teams scheduling duals with top ranked programs. And, not penalize good teams stuck in less than competitive conferences.
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Not crying. Just telling you the Genius system needs some improvement.
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You’re right. Perhaps if the Genius Rating System didn’t penalize us for a horrific Indy City Tournament we are locked into two years ago, we would have had the invite then. It sure would have validated the 2018 “Team State” tournament to have the IHSAA Champs there, wouldn’t it have?
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Zero. 5 of those teams had less than 5 wrestlers on their roster. We would have been better off if they just cancelled the tournament. However, that is the conference we are in and contractually obligated to. We can’t shed a conference for just wrestling. How many Top 20 SoS teams have a conference with 2 or more teams with negative Genius Ratings in it? I bet none. We have 9 and we only see them one time - the Indianapolis City Tourney. It is basically our team philanthropy. The point is the system needs amendment around tournament ratings.
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I don’t have to. There aren’t 5 other teams that competed against 8 of the Top 10 teams in the state this season.
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If that is the case, that is a major flaw in the Genius System. There are 9 teams I counted in the Indianapolis City Tourney with negative ratings (the majority with double digit negative ratings). A tournament that we are obligated to attend can offset most likely the toughest schedule in the state? No wonder Cathedral didn’t get invited to the IHSWCA State Duals two years ago. If you want a fair representation, there needs to be a different rating system for tournaments. Are all 32 teams in the Al Smith figured in to the rating? Are all 32 Al Smith Teams figured the same as all 16 teams at the Traicoff Duals? How about out of state tourneys? Cathedral went to a pretty tough Mason, OH tourney. Portage and Avon went to a tough Ohio tourney. How were those tourneys figured In?? Trying to figure out a solution to this SoS rating. I don’t feel like CHS is getting a fair shake.
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Re: Genius Rating - not a chance Cathedral had the 16th toughest schedule. If we aren’t at least Top 5, I want to see the schedules of the people ahead of us. How in the world is strength of schedule decided?
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Who was the most dominant though? My vote is Jason Terry (Cathedral). 1992. Won his sophomore and senior year convincingly. Junior year had the full blown flu at Market Square and lost a tough one to Devon Nelson from Mishawaka. His senior year he avenged that loss under the lights with a lateral for the fall. One nasty hombre. 7 losses in his career. He still weighs 130lbs, I would run from him in a bar fight even now. Miss that mofo though. Living Somewhere on the near east side of Indy invisible.
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Four that come immediately to mind in no particular order: David McCubbins (Monrovia) circa 1991; multiple time Fargo Champ; would be a 2x-er, but broke his jaw in tourney series. Funky technician, but nasty. DJ Radnovic (Gibson Southern) - undefeated champ and all the athleticism if not more than Parris. Maybe a Champ in 1996? Matt Hasbrook (Cathedral) 3 time Fargo Champ and FILA Cadet world Runner-up. State Champ ~1999. Nate Moore (Perry or Franklin?) - 3xer and overall good physical technician. All I know is any of these 4 would give him a hell of a match. They weren’t afraid of anyone and were very dominant big men. I think McCubbins might have topped out at 182, but the other three were stout 215lb’ers
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Strategy Question - Hunt vs Slivka
IndianaWrestlingGuy replied to Kookie953's topic in Past Discussions
It is a great discussion: the power of a superior leg rider. It wasn’t only the Yorktown match, but also the Kasper McIntosh match. Beating #1 and #2 1-0 is definitely noteworthy. -
Zeke just won IHSWCA Middle School State at 117. I know he has dropped for national tourneys with CIA recently though.
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It was a gauntlet of a season starting with 2 Top 10 duals out of the gates in Avon and Warren. We were also one of the few programs to hit both the Traicoff and the Al Smith. We wrestled against 8 of the Top 10 programs in the state (sans Brownsburg and EMD). I am convinced that our schedule had these boys battle tested by the time the State Series came around. 4 in the finals with a couple near misses in Bailey and Walendzak showed the team unity that these guys shared. They were definitely wrestling for each other. You could see it in Slivka's face when he clinched it. The Indy Star article says it all. Better news is we are returning 8 of our 10 finalists next year and adding Zeke Seltzer to the mix. Should be a fun couple years ahead for the Irish. I am grateful to our coaching staff for their preparation. Congrats on the trophy, all. Proud to be Irish.
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I don’t know how each school trains, but we always prepare for not leaving it up to the referee. When Lance Rhodes was the coach, we did extra stand-ups every night at every practice because of “bad call”. We were taught to never leave a match in the hands of the referee. Never. Frankie is a great referee. A great man. Everyone can whine, but the tight match came out on the right side for the ☘️.
