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  1. 53 minutes ago, SIACfan said:

     

    I agree 100%.

     

    I have pointed this out many times over the years when people want to argue how good of a wrestling state California is. They are good, but it is more a product of how large their population is verses how good their wrestling truly is.

     

    Below is a list of 2023 NCAA DI qualifiers by state per 1 million in population with total qualifiers in parenthesis.

     

    1. Iowa 5.0 qualifiers per 1 million in population (16 total qualifiers)

    2. Pennsylvania 3.5 (46)

    3. Oklahoma 3.2 (13)

    4. Illinois 2.5 (32)

    5. New Jersey 2.5 (23)

    6. Minnesota 2.1 (12)

    7. Ohio 1.9 (22)

    8. Missouri 1.9 (12)

    9. Michigan 1.6 (16)

    10. Colorado 1.5 (9)

    11. Indiana 1.0 (7)

    12. New York 0.9 (18)

    13. California 0.5 (18)

    14. Florida 0.4 (9)

     

    As you can see in 2023 while California had 18 qualifiers verses Indiana's 7,  Indiana did twice as good as California if you take into account population size.

    Do you know how many of the qualifiers from Illinois are from Indiana or trained up in the region?

  2. 49 minutes ago, piscis1956 said:

    I believe it was a in-season loss to Matt Whyde, who he would later beat on Friday night at state on route to his runner-up finish.

    Where was Matt Whyde from?

    You could be thinking of Kyle Nehring.

    2003
    Loss vs. Trevor Moe( Garrett) Dec 5-2 (Edit)
    2004
    Win vs. Kevin Zehr( Leo) Fall 2:56 (Edit)
    Win vs. Patrick Rigdon( Boone Grove) Fall 4:40 (Edit)
    Win vs. Sam Elmore( Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter) Dec 10-8 (Edit)
    Loss vs. Heath VanDeventer( Bloomington North) Dec 5-1 (Edit)
    2005
    Win vs. Michael Burke( Yorktown) Fall 1:08 (Edit)
    Win vs. Danny Goff( Zionsville) Dec 5-2 (Edit)
    Win vs. Eric Jones( Peru) Fall 3:10 (Edit)
    Win vs. Kenneth Caldwell( Union County) Dec 11-5 (Edit)

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    Curfman

    Findley

     

    @120

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    Fields

    Behnke

     

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    Richards

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    Rutan

    Million

     

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    Long

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    Miller

     

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    Thornton

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  4. I see that Floyd is ranked 2nd in 3A, and 6th in the power poll. On the gorilla radio show the other night it was discussed that they would most likely not get voted in because they lost to Cathedral. I always feel the rankers do a pretty good job but it seems messed up that the 2nd ranked team would not get the nod. So I ask, are the guys that do the rankings over estimating how good Floyd is, or is the voting committee underestimating how good they are? I hope the 12 team format will be used! 

  5. I lived in Nebraska for 8 years, and I only went to the wrestling state finals once. The competition was completely watered down. There were a few decent finals matches but it was so hard to watch 4 finals matches going on at the same time all wrestling to be a "state champ" and the awards took forever. I never went back. The Indiana state finals spoiled me, and cant be matched. Although I don't agree with ghughes1974  on class wrestling, I too would love to see wrestle backs, and think it would make the state finals that much better. 

  6. 24 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said:


    Big tournaments like that need to split those weights over a few mats so that you don't hit wait times at the end of the day. I hate to see kids wrestling their 4 toughest matches within minutes of each other.

    I know last year my son wrestled all day on two mats. Around 45 kids in his weight class. He was wrestling like every 20 minutes it seemed like.  The last few round we did have wait times, and that was a bummer.  It would have been nice to have a bit more time in between matches. I think he was the only weight class on those 2 mats, since it was such a big bracket. If there was another weight or 2 in there it would help with the wait times, but then the tournament would take longer. Over-all it runs faster than the good ole days in the cattle barn at the state fairgrounds.

  7. On 2/2/2023 at 4:25 PM, ducktails said:

    Jeffersonville Regional

     

    Team Race: Columbus East appears to be the overwhelming favorite.

     

     

    The team race was closer than anyone had expected. 3 North wrestlers in the finals lost by 1 point. Would that have been enough to change the team race? 

  8. 1 hour ago, alibaba812 said:

    Anderson lost to Owen earlier in the season but was coming off a stomach bug and always seems stronger at the end of the season, it will definitely be a close and exciting match.  I have a hard time seeing either scoring that many takedowns on Ratliff, but Nate managed to score one last weekend and it went down the wire. Both guys seemed to have a hard time getting anything going on the feet in their second match and I wouldn't be surprised to see it come down to escapes or reversals again.  Do you know anything about the East Pekin kid? I haven't seen any of those kids wrestle before.

    I don't know anything about the Eastern Pekin kid.

  9. 1 hour ago, alibaba812 said:

    145 will be interesting.  Nate Anderson from Columbus East lost by 1 after a 3rd period reversal to a very tough Asher Ratliff from North in the sectional championship last weekend.  He was last years regional champ at 132 and beat a tough Coy Bender of Terre Haute South at team state last month.  if both get through tough semi matches it will be a fun rematch in the finals.

    This is a interesting weight, Anderson and Owen will collide in the semis to face the always stingy, super savvy, freshman Phenom Asher Ratliff. Asher's wrestling IQ is off the charts. Whoever wins in the semis will need to score 3-4  takedowns IMO to beat Ratliff (tall task). He has a 3-0 record against Owens and Anderson already with a combined score of 16-6. Owens being a senior may be feeling the pressure to go out big in his last high school post season, and can hit big moves from anywhere. Anderson and the entire East team are battle tested, and like to keep the score low. If Anderson can keep the score close, and keep Owen from hitting any big moves will probably make it to the finals. My prediction is Anderson over Owens 3-1 and Ratliff over Anderson in the finals 5-2.

  10. I grew Up in Indian, going to every state championship since 4th grade(1996) until I moved to Nebraska in 2008. For 2009-2010 season I was excited to go watch the Nebraska state wrestling finals.... until I got there. The finals had 4 mats wrestling( 1 for each class), and I asked a few spectators what mat was for 1st and 2nd? They replied with all 4 mats are wrestling for a state title at the same weight-class. Then the awards in between each weight-class took foreveeeer. As for the competition, it seemed completely watered down. I went into this not having an opinion one way or the other about class wrestling, but I never went back to the Nebraska state finals as it was like any other "ordinary" tournament. Id say winning a Nebraska state title is about like winning an Indiana Semi-state! Nothing to laugh about but not the same as winning an IHSAA state wrestling title. I'm happy to say that I moved back to Indiana in 2016 and have been to every IHSAA state championship since. It is simply the best! The only thing I would change about the individual IHSAA Wrestling tournament is to have full wrestle backs for 3rd place starting at sectionals.

     

     

    Nebraska Class A (big class)Finals 5-pins 2-techfalls 1-MD 1-OT

    Nebraska Class B Finals 4-pins 0-techfalls  2-MD  0-OT

    Nebraska Class C Finals 1-pins 3-techfalls  2-MD 1-OT

    Nebraska Class D (Smallest class) Finals 1-pin 0-techfalls 1-MD  1-OT

    56 state champions crowned...….. The matches from the smallest schools were the most competitive.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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