MackG

Was the ref in a position where he could see if the scapula was down?

Am I wrong?

Pretty cool.

Correct. And Indysportsfan is also correct.

I will take Seltzer +175 for the max.

You mistook my statement. Obviously, by looking at the numbers I posted, Hendricks is better than Marion County on a pound for pound basis over the last ten years. What I meant was, the last 3 years, Hendricks has really ramped up in the state placer department, and is within striking distance to overtake Marion, in gross numbers of state placers, in spite of the population difference So the question stands.... will they overtake Marion County? We will see what this year brings in only a few weeks.

Thoughts from the numbers... There is something in the water in Adams and Delaware County. Hendricks County may not be the pound for pound winner over a ten year period, but at #2 in state placers behind Marion County the last 3 years, their trajectory is very solid and I know they have a pipeline of really solid youth wrestlers. Will they ever overtake Marion County?

Interesting list. Lots of talent here!

Here are the numbers for State Champion Wrestlers per county over the last ten years: Marion: 19 Lake: 17 Porter: 7 Delaware: 7 Johnson: 5 Hendricks: 4 St. Joe: 4 Marshall: 4 Monroe: 4 Vanderburgh: 3 Elkhart: 3 Bartholemew: 3 Madison: 3 Hancock: 3 Elkhart: 3 Union: 2 Noble: 2 Warrick: 2 Hamilton: 1 Gibson: 1 Adams: 1 Kosciusko:1 Dearborn: 1 Adams:1 Allen: 1 Randolph: 1 Carroll: 1 Howard:1 Top Podium Spots (State Championships) taken per County, per capita over the last ten years: Union: 1 out of every 2,439 residents Marshall: 1 out of every 11,620 residents*** Delaware: 1 out of every 16,666 residents Dearborn: 1 out of every 16,666 residents Gibson: 1 out of every 16,940 residents Carroll: 1 out of every 20,830 residents Lake: 1 out of every 21,270 residents Porter: 1 out of every 24,390 residents Noble: 1 out of every 23,800 residents Hancock: 1 out of every 25,000 residents Randolph: 1 out of every 25,000 residents Hendricks: 1 out of every 27,020 residents Bartholomew: 1 out of every 27,770 residents Warrick: 1 out of every 32,250 residents Adams: 1 out of every 35,710 residents Monroe: 1 out of every 37,030 residents Marion: 1 out of every 40,000 residents Madison: 1 out of every 47,810 residents Johnson: 1 out of every 52,630 residents St. Joe: 1 out of every 55,550 residents Vanderburgh: 1 out of every 45,450 residents Elkhart: 1 out of every 71,420 residents Kosciusko: 1 out of every 83,330 residents Hamilton: 1 out of every 166,660 residents Allen: 1 out of every 384,615 residents (Counties in bold have had 3 or more State Champion Wrestlers in the last 10 years) (Numbers based on 2017 county population data) Individual Team State Champions per county over the last 10 years: Marion:6 St. Joe: 2 Lake: 1 Hendricks: 1 State Podium spots taken per County (counties with 2 or mores) over the last 10 years below... County 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Total Marion 17 15 18 16 20 18 21 23 15 18 181 Lake 16 16 12 14 9 12 10 10 8 6 113 St Joe 9 9 5 5 9 9 7 5 6 1 65 Hendricks 4 3 2 3 5 1 9 11 12 12 62 Delaware 4 3 6 5 7 6 8 5 8 5 57 Vanderburgh 4 4 9 7 3 8 7 3 3 3 51 Elkhart 4 1 5 4 3 3 3 7 7 10 47 Hamilton 3 3 6 5 7 5 5 4 3 5 46 Johnson 3 4 3 5 8 5 3 3 3 4 41 Porter 2 2 1 1 1 5 6 10 9 37 Allen 4 7 4 3 2 3 3 5 2 33 Hancock 1 1 1 4 4 5 2 3 3 2 26 Monroe 3 3 3 4 5 1 1 1 21 Adams 3 2 3 5 2 2 1 3 21 Morgan 2 3 1 1 1 3 3 3 2 19 Madison 4 3 3 2 2 1 3 18 Bartholomew 2 1 1 1 3 3 6 17 Warrick 2 4 4 2 1 1 1 1 16 Noble 1 1 1 2 3 4 1 2 15 Howard 2 1 2 1 1 3 2 1 1 14 Marshall 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 13 Kosciusko 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 13 Carroll 3 2 1 1 1 2 10 Henry 1 3 2 2 1 1 10 Dearborn 1 1 1 1 1 3 2 10 Jay 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 9 Boone 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 8 Montgomery 1 1 1 1 1 3 8 Spencer 1 1 1 2 3 8 Vigo 1 1 1 1 1 3 8 LaGrange 3 2 2 7 Clark 1 3 2 1 7 Gibson 1 1 1 1 2 6 Miami 1 2 1 1 1 6 DeKalb 1 2 1 1 1 6 Tippecanoe 1 1 2 1 1 6 Union 2 1 1 1 5 Brown 2 1 1 4 Grant 2 1 1 4 Jennings 1 2 1 4 Wayne 1 1 1 1 4 Floyd 1 3 4 Whitley 1 1 1 3 Wells 1 2 3 Posey 1 1 1 3 Fayette 1 1 1 3 Putnam 1 1 1 3 Harrison 1 1 1 3 Huntington 1 1 1 3 Steuben 1 1 2 Starke 1 1 2 Jasper 1 1 2 Clinton 1 1 2 Cass 1 1 2 Fulton 1 1 2 Franklin 1 1 2 Jefferson 2 2 Podium Spots (State Placers) per County that had more than 10 state placers, per capita over the last ten years: Adams: 1 out of every 1,694 residents Delaware: 1 out of every 2,040 residents Hendricks: 1 out of every 2,702 residents Hancock: 1 out of every 2,941 residents Noble: 1 out of every 3,225 residents Morgan: 1 out of every 3,225 residents Vanderburgh: 1 out of every 3,571 residents Kosciusko: 1 out of every 3,703 residents Johnson: 1 out of every 3,846 residents Warrick: 1 out of every 4,000 residents St. Joe: 1 out of every 4,166 residents Lake: 1 out of every 4,347 residents Elkhart: 1 out of every 4,545 residents Bartholomew: 1 out of every 4,761 residents Porter: 1 out of every 4,761 residents Marion: 1 out of every 5,263 residents Kosciusko:1 out of every 6,250 residents Howard: 1 out of every 6,250 residents Hamilton: 1 out of every 7,142 residents Monroe: 1 out of every 7,142 residents Madison: 1 out of every 7,692 residents Allen: 1 out of every 12,500 residents

Yes, good catch. This is going to make Adams #1 pound for pound...

Yes, you are correct. My apologies.

And don't forget Evan Stanley. Things will definitely be interesting for years to come.

Here are the numbers for State Champion Wrestlers per county over the last ten years: Marion: 19 Lake: 17 Porter: 7 Delaware: 7 Johnson: 5 Hendricks: 4 St. Joe: 4 Marshall: 4 Monroe: 4 Vanderburgh: 3 Elkhart: 3 Bartholemew: 3 Madison: 3 Johnson: 3 Elkhart: 3 Union: 2 Noble: 2 Warrick: 2 Hamilton: 1 Gibson: 1 Adams: 1 Kosciusko:1 Dearborn: 1 Adams:1 Allen: 1 Randolph: 1 Carroll: 1 Howard:1 Top Podium Spots taken per County, per capita over the last ten years: Union: 1 out of every 240 residents Marshall: 1 out of every 1,162 residents*** Delaware: 1 out of every 1,666 residents Dearborn: 1 out of every 1,666 residents Gibson: 1 out of every 1,694 residents Carroll: 1 out of every 2,083 residents Lake: 1 out of every 2,127 residents Porter: 1 out of every 2,439 residents Noble: 1 out of every 2,380 residents Hancock: 1 out of every 2,500 residents Randolph: 1 out of every 2,500 residents Hendricks: 1 out of every 2,702 residents Bartholomew: 1 out of every 2,777 residents Johnson: 1 out of every 3,125 residents Warrick: 1 out of every 3,225 residents Adams: 1 out of every 3,571 residents Monroe: 1 out of every 3,703 residents Marion: 1 out of every 4,000 residents Madison: 1 out of every 4,781 residents St. Joe: 1 out of every 5,555 residents Vanderburgh: 1 out of every 4,545 residents Elkhart: 1 out of every 7,142 residents Kosciusko: 1 out of every 8,333 residents Hamilton: 1 out of every 16,666 residents Allen: 1 out of every 83,333 residents (Counties in bold have had 3 or more State Champion Wrestlers in the last 10 years) (Numbers based on 2017 county population data) ***Marshall County is high as a result of Culver Academy, with a lot of out of state transfers. Individual Team State Champions per county over the last 10 years: Marion:6 St. Joe: 2 Lake: 1 Hendricks: 1 State Podium spots taken per County (counties with 2 or mores) over the last 10 years below.... County 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Total Marion 17 15 18 16 20 18 21 23 15 18 181 Lake 16 16 12 14 9 12 10 10 8 6 113 St Joe 9 9 5 5 9 9 7 5 6 1 65 Hendricks 4 3 2 3 5 1 9 11 12 12 62 Delaware 4 3 6 5 7 6 8 5 8 5 57 Vanderburgh 4 4 9 7 3 8 7 3 3 3 51 Elkhart 4 1 5 4 3 3 3 7 7 10 47 Hamilton 3 3 6 5 7 5 5 4 3 5 46 Johnson 3 4 3 5 8 5 3 3 3 4 41 Porter 2 2 1 1 1 5 6 10 9 37 Allen 4 7 4 3 2 3 3 5 2 33 Hancock 1 1 1 4 4 5 2 3 3 2 26 Monroe 3 3 3 4 5 1 1 1 21 Morgan 2 3 1 1 1 3 3 3 2 19 Madison 4 3 3 2 2 1 3 18 Bartholomew 2 1 1 1 3 3 6 17 Warrick 2 4 4 2 1 1 1 1 16 Noble 1 1 1 2 3 4 1 2 15 Howard 2 1 2 1 1 3 2 1 1 14 Adams 3 5 2 1 3 14 Marshall 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 13 Kosciusko 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 13 Carroll 3 2 1 1 1 2 10 Henry 1 3 2 2 1 1 10 Dearborn 1 1 1 1 1 3 2 10 Jay 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 9 Boone 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 8 Montgomery 1 1 1 1 1 3 8 Spencer 1 1 1 2 3 8 Vigo 1 1 1 1 1 3 8 Adams 3 2 2 7 LaGrange 3 2 2 7 Clark 1 3 2 1 7 Gibson 1 1 1 1 2 6 Miami 1 2 1 1 1 6 DeKalb 1 2 1 1 1 6 Tippecanoe 1 1 2 1 1 6 Union 2 1 1 1 5 Brown 2 1 1 4 Grant 2 1 1 4 Jennings 1 2 1 4 Wayne 1 1 1 1 4 Floyd 1 3 4 Whitley 1 1 1 3 Wells 1 2 3 Posey 1 1 1 3 Fayette 1 1 1 3 Putnam 1 1 1 3 Harrison 1 1 1 3 Huntington 1 1 1 3 Steuben 1 1 2 Starke 1 1 2 Jasper 1 1 2 Clinton 1 1 2 Cass 1 1 2 Fulton 1 1 2 Franklin 1 1 2 Jefferson 2 2 Podium Spots (State Placers) per County that had more than 10 state placers, per capita over the last ten years: Delaware: 1 out of every 2,040 residents Adams: 1 out of every 2,564 residents Hendricks: 1 out of every 2,702 residents Hancock: 1 out of every 2,941 residents Noble: 1 out of every 3,225 residents Morgan: 1 out of every 3,225 residents Vanderburgh: 1 out of every 3,571 residents Kosciusko: 1 out of every 3,703 residents Johnson: 1 out of every 3,846 residents Warrick: 1 out of every 4,000 residents St. Joe: 1 out of every 4,166 residents Lake: 1 out of every 4,347 residents Elkhart: 1 out of every 4,545 residents Bartholomew: 1 out of every 4,761 residents Porter: 1 out of every 4,761 residents Marion: 1 out of every 5,263 residents Kosciusko:1 out of every 6,250 residents Howard: 1 out of every 6,250 residents Hamilton: 1 out of every 7,142 residents Monroe: 1 out of every 7,142 residents Madison: 1 out of every 7,692 residents Allen: 1 out of every 12,500 residents

Yes sir, you are correct. Thank you. I will fix that. Wish we had more time to edit posts. Dear moderators--if you can, please edit my original post with the text in my next post. Thank you!

Thank you, but that list specifies wrestlers that won state championships, not state championships won.

Podium Spots (State Placers) per County that had more than 10 state placers, per capita over the last ten years: Delaware: 1 out of every 2,040 residents Adams: 1 out of every 2,564 residents Hendricks: 1 out of every 2,702 residents Hancock: 1 out of every 2,941 residents Noble: 1 out of every 3,225 residents Morgan: 1 out of every 3,225 residents Vanderburgh: 1 out of every 3,571 residents Kosciusko: 1 out of every 3,703 residents Johnson: 1 out of every 3,846 residents Warrick: 1 out of every 4,000 residents St. Joe: 1 out of every 4,166 residents Lake: 1 out of every 4,347 residents Elkhart: 1 out of every 4,545 residents Bartholomew: 1 out of every 4,761 residents Porter: 1 out of every 4,761 residents Marion: 1 out of every 5,263 residents Kosciusko:1 out of every 6,250 residents Howard: 1 out of every 6,250 residents Hamilton: 1 out of every 7,142 residents Monroe: 1 out of every 7,142 residents Madison: 1 out of every 7,692 residents Allen: 1 out of every 12,500 residents I miscalculated the first set of these numbers. The effect is the same, but still.... Top Podium Spots (State Championships) taken per County, per capita over the last ten years: Union: 1 out of every 2,439 residents Marshall: 1 out of every 11,620 residents*** Delaware: 1 out of every 16,666 residents Dearborn: 1 out of every 16,666 residents Gibson: 1 out of every 16,940 residents Carroll: 1 out of every 20,830 residents Lake: 1 out of every 21,270 residents Porter: 1 out of every 24,390 residents Noble: 1 out of every 23,800 residents Hancock: 1 out of every 25,000 residents Randolph: 1 out of every 25,000 residents Hendricks: 1 out of every 27,020 residents Bartholomew: 1 out of every 27,770 residents Warrick: 1 out of every 32,250 residents Adams: 1 out of every 35,710 residents Monroe: 1 out of every 37,030 residents Marion: 1 out of every 40,000 residents Madison: 1 out of every 47,810 residents Johnson: 1 out of every 52,630 residents St. Joe: 1 out of every 55,550 residents Vanderburgh: 1 out of every 45,450 residents Elkhart: 1 out of every 71,420 residents Kosciusko: 1 out of every 83,330 residents Hamilton: 1 out of every 166,660 residents Allen: 1 out of every 384,615 residents (Counties in bold have had 3 or more State Champion Wrestlers in the last 10 years) (Numbers based on 2017 county population data)

State Podium spots taken per County over the last 10 years (2 or more) below.... County 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Total Marion 17 15 18 16 20 18 21 23 15 18 181 Lake 16 16 12 14 9 12 10 10 8 6 113 St Joe 9 9 5 5 9 9 7 5 6 1 65 Hendricks 4 3 2 3 5 1 9 11 12 12 62 Delaware 4 3 6 5 7 6 8 5 8 5 57 Vanderburgh 4 4 9 7 3 8 7 3 3 3 51 Elkhart 4 1 5 4 3 3 3 7 7 10 47 Hamilton 3 3 6 5 7 5 5 4 3 5 46 Johnson 3 4 3 5 8 5 3 3 3 4 41 Porter 2 2 1 1 1 5 6 10 9 37 Allen 4 7 4 3 2 3 3 5 2 33 Hancock 1 1 1 4 4 5 2 3 3 2 26 Monroe 3 3 3 4 5 1 1 1 21 Morgan 2 3 1 1 1 3 3 3 2 19 Madison 4 3 3 2 2 1 3 18 Bartholomew 2 1 1 1 3 3 6 17 Warrick 2 4 4 2 1 1 1 1 16 Noble 1 1 1 2 3 4 1 2 15 Howard 2 1 2 1 1 3 2 1 1 14 Adams 3 5 2 1 3 14 Marshall 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 13 Kosciusko 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 13 Carroll 3 2 1 1 1 2 10 Henry 1 3 2 2 1 1 10 Dearborn 1 1 1 1 1 3 2 10 Jay 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 9 Boone 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 8 Montgomery 1 1 1 1 1 3 8 Spencer 1 1 1 2 3 8 Vigo 1 1 1 1 1 3 8 Adams 3 2 2 7 LaGrange 3 2 2 7 Clark 1 3 2 1 7 Gibson 1 1 1 1 2 6 Miami 1 2 1 1 1 6 DeKalb 1 2 1 1 1 6 Tippecanoe 1 1 2 1 1 6 Union 2 1 1 1 5 Brown 2 1 1 4 Grant 2 1 1 4 Jennings 1 2 1 4 Wayne 1 1 1 1 4 Floyd 1 3 4 Whitley 1 1 1 3 Wells 1 2 3 Posey 1 1 1 3 Fayette 1 1 1 3 Putnam 1 1 1 3 Harrison 1 1 1 3 Huntington 1 1 1 3 Steuben 1 1 2 Starke 1 1 2 Jasper 1 1 2 Clinton 1 1 2 Cass 1 1 2 Fulton 1 1 2 Franklin 1 1 2 Jefferson 2 2

County 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Total Marion 17 15 18 16 20 18 21 23 15 18 181 Lake 16 16 12 14 9 12 10 10 8 6 113 St Joe 9 9 5 5 9 9 7 5 6 1 65 Hendricks 4 3 2 3 5 1 9 11 12 12 62 Delaware 4 3 6 5 7 6 8 5 8 5 57 Vanderburgh 4 4 9 7 3 8 7 3 3 3 51 Elkhart 4 1 5 4 3 3 3 7 7 10 47 Hamilton 3 3 6 5 7 5 5 4 3 5 46 Johnson 3 4 3 5 8 5 3 3 3 4 41 Porter 2 2 1 1 1 5 6 10 9 37 Allen 4 7 4 3 2 3 3 5 2 33 Hancock 1 1 1 4 4 5 2 3 3 2 26 Monroe 3 3 3 4 5 1 1 1 21 Morgan 2 3 1 1 1 3 3 3 2 19 Madison 4 3 3 2 2 1 3 18 Bartholomew 2 1 1 1 3 3 6 17 Warrick 2 4 4 2 1 1 1 1 16 Noble 1 1 1 2 3 4 1 2 15 Howard 2 1 2 1 1 3 2 1 1 14 Adams 3 5 2 1 3 14 Marshall 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 13 Kosciusko 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 13 Carroll 3 2 1 1 1 2 10 Henry 1 3 2 2 1 1 10 Dearborn 1 1 1 1 1 3 2 10 Jay 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 9 Boone 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 8 Montgomery 1 1 1 1 1 3 8 Spencer 1 1 1 2 3 8 Vigo 1 1 1 1 1 3 8

Errors have been corrected. Will post more data soon.

Numbers are looking interesting to say the least. Pound for pound Delaware County is looking pretty tough. Will try to post state placer numbers tonight.

I am about halfway done compiling numbers on state placers per county over the last ten years. Will post soon.

Here are the numbers for State Champion Wrestlers per county over the last ten years: Marion: 19 Lake: 17 Porter: 7 Delaware: 7 Hendricks: 4 St. Joe: 4 Marshall: 4 Monroe: 4 Vanderburgh: 3 Johnson: 3 Elkhart: 3 Bartholemew: 3 Madison: 3 Johnson: 3 Elkhart: 3 Union: 2 Noble: 2 Warrick: 2 Hamilton: 1 Gibson: 1 Adams: 1 Kosciusko:1 Dearborn: 1 Adams:1 Allen: 1 Randolph: 1 Carroll: 1 Howard:1 Top Podium Spots taken per County, per capita over the last ten years: Union: 1 out of every 240 residents Marshall: 1 out of every 1,162 residents*** Delaware: 1 out of every 1,666 residents Dearborn: 1 out of every 1,666 residents Gibson: 1 out of every 1,694 residents Carroll: 1 out of every 2,083 residents Lake: 1 out of every 2,127 residents Porter: 1 out of every 2,439 residents Noble: 1 out of every 2,380 residents Hancock: 1 out of every 2,500 residents Randolph: 1 out of every 2,500 residents Hendricks: 1 out of every 2,702 residents Bartholomew: 1 out of every 2,777 residents Warrick: 1 out of every 3,225 residents Adams: 1 out of every 3,571 residents Monroe: 1 out of every 3,703 residents Marion: 1 out of every 4,000 residents Madison: 1 out of every 4,781 residents Johnson: 1 out of every 5,263 residents St. Joe: 1 out of every 5,555 residents Vanderburgh: 1 out of every 4,545 residents Elkhart: 1 out of every 7,142 residents Kosciusko: 1 out of every 8,333 residents Hamilton: 1 out of every 16,666 residents Allen: 1 out of every 83,333 residents (Counties in bold have had 3 or more State Champion Wrestlers in the last 10 years) (Numbers based on 2017 county population data) ***Marshall County is high as a result of Culver Academy, with a lot of out of state transfers. Individual Team State Champions per county over the last 10 years: Marion:6 St. Joe: 2 Lake: 1 Hendricks: 1

I know I missed kids in this post ^^^ Feel free to add/edit if you want. I just wanted to show that there's potential for some really interesting matchups.

Many will wait until the final hours to sign up. Tough to make predictions in any year. But especially this year. Don’t know what weight everyone will be going and most weight classes will have tough matchups. Plus, there will be surprises on how far down some of these kids will go. 75- Syra/Demarco/Landen Haines 80- Preston Haines/Billerman/Syra 85- Seng/Foster/Billerman 90- Ison/Hammack/Courtney 95- Lowery/Ison/Leavall 102- Schoeff/Goin/Frazier 110- Lemley/Goin/Gilbert 117- Lemley/May/McConnell 125- May/McConnell 132- Goodwin/Mills/Henry 140- Barr/Goodwin/Myers/Cruz 150- Barr/Goodwin/Myers 160- Carroll/Steinbeke/Willems 175- Jones/??? 220- ??? 275- ???