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ElbowTie

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    ElbowTie reacted to Y2CJ41 in Class Wrestling - Participation   
    Schools with more success tend to have better participation, why is that? If more schools have MORE success do you think that will grow the sport?
     
    That is anecdotal evidence.
    Here are real statistics rather than general observations
    From 2011-2016
    3 classes
    Pla- 3A(xx.xx%)  2A(xx.xx%)  1A(xx.xx%)
    1st- 63(75.00%)  17(20.24%)  4(4.76%
    2nd- 67(79.76%)  14(16.67%)  3(3.57%
    3rd- 56(66.67%)  23(27.38%)  5(5.95%
    4th- 52(61.90%)  27(32.14%)  5(5.95%
    5th- 58(69.05%)  22(26.19%)  4(4.76%
    6th- 59(70.24%)  20(23.81%)  5(5.95%
    7th- 65(77.38%)  16(19.05%)  3(3.57%
    8th- 61(72.62%)  13(15.48%)  10(11.90%
     
    Qualifiers- total
    3A- 1160- 64.73%
    2A- 468- 26.12%
    1A- 164- 9.15%
     
    More success means more people recognized for their hard work. More people recognized would lead to more promotion of the sport and thus more popularity. That is good.
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    ElbowTie reacted to Kookie953 in Class Wrestling - Participation   
    I am totally new, and therefore totally unqualified and I haven't participated in previous discussions / debates...but if the argument is that class wrestling would increase participation that would seem to be totally illogical.
     
    Of any sport that I have seen, you either love to wrestle or you don't.  I really don't think expecting a "successful state run" will matter much to a 14-18 year old kid making a choice to wrestle.  
     
    And of any sport there is...wrestling is the ultimate meritocracy.  It does not matter where you are from...if you can beat the guy in front of you then you advance.  Just the incredibly long list of schools participating in the state finals...and the fact that small schools can have multiples more participants than the behemoth high schools (or some 5A and 6A football schools having ZERO participants in the state finals) proves this fact.  
     
    Any statistics that would seem to show a correlation between class wrestling and an increase in participation would be a study in false equivalency in my opinion.  
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    ElbowTie got a reaction from V and M's Dad in 152 Finals - Lee vs. Warren   
    Agreed, the kid is extremely classy.  I got a chance to talk to him a little this weekend and was very impressed with how humble he was and his performance in the finals was nothing short of amazing.  Warren is no joke and he was totally outmatched.
    Maybe i missed it or it was deleted but where was the dogging and bs that was said about him? 
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    ElbowTie reacted to UncleJimmy in 113   
    Yeah, then after he's done there next week he can transfer to Beech Groove and get shots at regional and semistate at some other kids! Now that would be great for Indiana wrestling (sarcasm font)...SMH. This is nuts.
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    ElbowTie got a reaction from V and M's Dad in In House Wrestle Offs...   
    Exactly.
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    ElbowTie reacted to mathewsz7 in In House Wrestle Offs...   
    Every year for the last century (sarcasm) but for a long long time, there are always a decent amount of kids cut down a weight class right before sectionals. This is not something that is brand new in the world of high school wrestling. I don't know what all this fuss is about. Is it because it's happening in one of the state's top programs year in year out? Is it because it's involving a blue chip freshman that could have made a very deep run in the state tournament @ either weight class? I am seriously confused as to why this subject is drawing so much attention. Personally I don't feel any of the above questions should even be asked, because we all know this is nothing new to wrestling. I believe this can easily be summed up as a simple case of "I'm taking my ball, & going home"
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    ElbowTie reacted to maligned in Half-Way through the season Champs?   
    Agreed...getting deep into linguistics here, but if we say someone "didn't get the opportunity" it's sometimes used as a more positive expression to say that someone came up short.  Example: Bailey hasn't had the opportunity to stand on the top of the podium yet, but he's still chasing that dream. Littell's dad was using a similar expression here when he said, "if he doesn't get the opportunity this year."  In other words, "if he comes up short."
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    ElbowTie reacted to Indysportsfan in Al Smith   
    Rooks defeated Cummings at 126, 4-2.
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    ElbowTie reacted to Coach Seymour in Best Matches at State Duals...any updates   
    Elbow Tie- Jan 17th it will be a rematch with Perry and Brownsburg. We travel to Perry for the dual. Should be another great match.
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    ElbowTie reacted to Y2CJ41 in Seeding   
    I personally think Perry is the one to watch. They basically had their whole lineup at Disney and was within one match of beating Brownsburg. I know that is one team I hope the Chargers don't have to run into until late in the day. Don't overlook the Falcons as they could pull some minor upsets.
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