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All this math is making my head hurt 😞 
 
Here’s my math to clarify things - if I have 8 pieces of Pizza and I have 8 wrestlers getting ready to wrestle the next day.  - I’ll probably get only 4 pieces , cuz the heavyweight will eat 4 too. 

No speculation needed here. I’m staying a Hobart. 

All this math is making my head hurt 😞 
 
Here’s my math to clarify things - if I have 8 pieces of Pizza and I have 8 wrestlers getting ready to wrestle the next day.  - I’ll probably get only 4 pieces , cuz the heavyweight will eat 4 too. 

Look nobody told me there would be math here - 
 

That is because Elmo and Cookie Monster Adult pajamas are known to deflect any type of virus known to man.  I am pretty sure this info is in the people of walmart.com handbook!

Look nobody told me there would be math here - 
 

I think RSN is doing some round by round recaps 

I wonder if Indiana had wrestle backs - would the small school kid who got the best draw possible get knocked out ? Would wrestle backs hurt participation?  For instance say there’s a death draw in the ticket round between 2 great wrestlers - wrestler A loses to wrestler B and now Wrestler C who was let’s say from “Wheeler” won his quarterfinal - loses in semi final - then gets knocked out by Wrestler A on the backside.  I bet this would happen more often than not - it’s hard to get kids in the room when you only have 570 students- if you never get kids going to state - it will be that much harder.  Having those announcements of kids placing in state or going to state is a big deal. 
I am a proponent of wrestle backs btw. I just think there could be a negative effect on smaller programs ? 

 
 

Straight 🗑️, I can see they'll fit in great at Flo.

USA wrestling just announced they would host a D3 tournament. 

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2021/February/05/USA-Wrestling-statement-on-hosting-event-for-Div-III-wrestlers
 

New Prairie Heavyweight as that weight seems open for the taking

Ellis v Estrada  - Torres V JR will be huge matchups for team 
The rest I feel have clear champs. 
 
 

Agreed 
Turley looked like he was going to run away with it , 2 takedowns in first.  Cervantes battled back hard and took the momentum -looking forward to them in the finals Saturday. 

Just a reminder, when we are posting and commenting on the forum. Let’s remember that our opinions are just that. Good debating and different perspectives it’s what makes this an amazing outlet. But , let’s remember that when we are talking about minors , someone’s kid. We need to be better. We don’t know everyone situation and let’s not assume Bc reality is we are all bias. Our own experience and positions gives our own perspective. Stating that you don’t agree with someone’s perspective, story , motives is one thing. But calling them liars, or claiming your own perspective is the correct one and that they are wrong is another.  We are a wrestling community. We are better then this.

Nam was ineligible at LC, I hear he will be wrestling for the Caravan and coach Tsirtsis. Great landing spot for Nam, a loss to indiana wrestling 
 
predictions 
 
106: jackson, Cortez Cruz Walden 
113: Bahl, Demarco, Rivera, Kranz 
120: lemley, Frazier, Kasprzak, whitmer (possible state championship match) 
126: Goin, Vitello, solomy Daniels/Adamczyk (will be a good one early coin toss match) 
132: Roberson Torres solomy Durall **nasty weight top 3 could all be in the semis 
138: mendez, Contreas Ruoff Glass 
145: Goodwin, Kaiser, Bisping Krause
152: Estrada, Ellis Politt Anderson/ponce (first rd will be a great match early on) 
160: Cruz, salary, Bolin, serafin 
170: Sneed, tattini, Johnson, Kwitowski (even weight across the board any guy could win) 
182: Layman, kwitkowski Browder, Sues(don’t sleep on Carter CP record is not great but is a talented wrestler who got in late) 
195 Demarco, Clark, Hoffman Antrim 
220 Bates Degrado, Clark Cosmos 
285 Whitesnack Mollencupp, Garcia Ruess 
 
half of the state Champs could be out of this regional. I feel like this is tough draw Regional at the semi state. Lots of these guys will be in Indy in 3 weeks 

Yep this - while at Wheeler we had a kid who had never played sports transfer from Chesterton and he wasn’t able too until their AD signed off. Which they did as soon as we sent it.  If the AD signs off , IHSAA doesn’t typically get involved.  In my limited experiences with this.  

CP 152 
#3 Estrada 
#6 Ellis
#18 Pollit
#23 Ponce 
Anderson (in rankings a couple times) 

Ponce v Anderson Rd 1 will be a good one. 
 

I believe Anderson knocked out the older Ponce here last year so definitely should be a good one 

Do we feel as though the training offered (partners, coaching, weightlifting  and nutrition etc;) at all the smaller schools is equal to the training that larger schools can offer?
 
I think the Crux of the argument relies on whether everyone is on a level playing field or not and I think anyone whose ever been to both can answer this pretty quickly. Interested in the Thoughts here.

I can tell you when my son was getting recruited as a Junior who had been to Semi State - one of the schools we reached out to literally told me - he doesn’t have the accolades for me to give him a ton of money. In that same breath he said your son just worked a multi time placer from here , but without those accolades it’s a hard sell.  He elaborated further , “well when I’m recruiting other kids - I can’t say hey I just signed a semi state kid from Indiana! “  This was a D2 school in North Carolina - for a kid like mine those accolades are huge.  He didn’t do many  off season tournaments as he played 2 other sports for most of High School. 
Our School has 520 kids -
That being said for Colleges that recruit Indiana , they typically know getting to Semi State from some regionals is like getting to state in other states. My son wanted to go somewhere warm and those schools we spoke too didn’t really recruit Indiana and didn’t understand our system.  So those accolades were huge.  

Kids having success earlier will equate to them getting more looks from colleges. If you are a one-time placer, even a champ, as a senior your opportunities are limited because most schools(D1, D2, and even NAIA) are already looking at current juniors. It is crucial for a kid to have success(meaning state qualifier or medal) earlier especially when competing against classed states like Michigan, Ohio, and Illinois. 

Thank you!

The best are always in a garage off Cleveland St.  

Wheeler has 
Jose diaz jr  class of 2018- Franklin & Marshall D1
Isaiah Mohmed class 2019 - Wisconsin whitewater D3
Trey buhler class 2018- university of Indianapolis D2
Clay Turpin class of 2016- Indiana tech university NAIA
Giovanni Diaz class of 2020- Franklin and Marshall D1
 
Just remember wheeler has about 530 students enrolled and we only had a wrestling program for the last 7 years

Why do football coaches seem to get "what they want?" Wrestling probably makes just as much money for the IHSAA. 
 
We need to look at ourselves first before we start blaming others. Recruiting is bad, changing times in swimming is bad, but changing alpha weights and other weight loss plan shenanigans are detrimental to an athlete's health. It's akin to making a kid participate with a concussion. 
 
The coaches are a part of the problem as to why we can't even get simple things passed like scoring at the state finals. Faulkens understands wrestling enough to know what is good for the sport and what is bad. Wrestling isn't that hard to figure out, but when he has to field 100's of calls sectional week because of weight management issues it wears on him and the staff. 
 
By no means is either organization perfect, but we need to first look at ourselves and see how we can help the situation. You can't blame the ref for calling you pinned if you put yourself to your back.