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Jaconimi

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  1. I don't have much input on favorites or surprises, but wanted to say they delayed the start time by two hours. It starts at 11 am at Mooresville HS.
  2. There does seem to be a definite flaw, as you described, in basing it strictly on total number of head-to-head wins, which is what the IHSAA training materials say, without considering match-ups within the bracket (like where Adamson beat Drake at 145 and Shoemaker and Mosconi beat King at 120 but had fewer total head-to-head wins). Off topic a bit, but how do you know your kids are not the second best wrestlers, as you stated, if they haven't wrestled head to head with the higher seeded wrestlers? I don't have a pony in the race, just making an observation. I guess I'm bothered by the inconsistencies from one sectional to another in how the rules are being enforced. I realize this isn't just a Mooresville sectional issue. I just brought it up here since there seems to be a lot of weight changes. It is hard to see a kid "waltz" into a new weight class with few common opponents in that bracket and get to jump to the front of the line. If they want to be in the front of the line, they should stay in the weight class they were at or switch over earlier to prove they can beat the wrestlers in that bracket. I know there are supposed to be guidelines (minimums) as to how many times they have to make scratch weight but they seem to be inconsistently enforced across the state. Best of luck to everyone at Mooresville sectional!
  3. Great, detailed analysis! Based on the info given in the other thread (titled Sectional Seeding) ... shouldn't the seedings for the 120, 126, 145, 152 weight classes (and maybe others) be based on head to head wins within the bracket? I mention these weight classes because those were the ones affected by both Mosconi kids and Coyle moving weight classes. So, for example, in looking at the wrestler details for 120 (assuming all the info is in there), Keaton Fisher would be #1 seed because he has 5 head to head wins, Cox would be #2 seed because he has 4 head to head wins, King would be #3 seed with 3 head to head wins, etc. For 145, Drake would be #1 seed with 5 head to head wins, Adamson #2 seed with 4 head to head wins, Coyle #3 seed because he tied for head to head wins but he beat Mosconi and Larence, etc. Here's what I'm referring to (it's on page 3 of the sectional seeding thread and if you listen to the narrator on the sectional seeding criteria tutorial video, he says, "head to head wins against wrestlers in the same bracket"): I just looked up the IHSAA "Seeding Criteria Tutorial"( I think one coach in this sectional had done their homework and thoroughly reviewed this).Here's the criteria below and this makes sense as to why the seed came out: A) Head to Head( The Wrestler with the most head to head wins gets the seed).If they have beaten each other an equal number of times, then the wrestler of the last match gets the seed.In the tutorial,the narrator says wins between wrestlers in that bracket. B Record vs Common Opponents C)Semi- State Qualifier in IHSAA tournament D)Best Overall Record with minimum of 10 matches E)Furthest Advancement in the IHSAA tournament F) Draw by lot Here's the link to the video ... if you listen to the narrator, he explains head to head definition. It was explained in the other thread that this is to keep kids from changing weight classes to avoid certain match-ups to pad their records. http://www.ihsaa.net/seedingmeetingtutorial/story.html Just thinking it might be worth looking at again.
  4. I didn't see it live but was watching on ihsaa tv. It looked like Red was already running off the mat before time expired. I know they gave Lee a point for an escape but why wasn't Red called for fleeing and Lee awarded another point? It would have gone into overtime.
  5. Do the finals start at 7:30 on the dot or could it be sooner depending on consolations?
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