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1 hour ago, aoberlin said:
If you are talking from the beginning of season to what you want to wrestle that is fine. But if you are naturally weighing 10 to 15 pounds more than you wrestle then honestly that is a problem. That is the whole reason the rules got put in place so kids didn't do that type of cut. I did that cut in high school and even worse in college. I would hope that people are not cheating the fat charts and allowing wrestlers to still do this.
Andy, I agree with you, particularly, in theory, but there too many incentives and workarounds. Any good wrestler whether kid, coach, or parent has two things in abundance: competitiveness and wherewithal.
What is the disincentive for a wrestler (or coach/parent) who is able to successfully cut that kind of weight even though they shouldn't? What if they can make State versus struggle to place at Semi-State in higher weight? They all know who their competitors are, what they weigh, and what they are up against. And, if they don't there is always someone or even this site or Track to inform them.
We all know tons of great kids that are cutting way too much weight. Don't we? And, I suspect we also know they are more successful at that lighter weight. They get recognitive from everywhere including the forums and the rankings. Yep, they'd be successful at a higher weight, maybe even two, but probably not 'as' successful.
That's a hard ask of any kid, coach, or parent. I'm, absolutely, not saying it's the right thing, but I understand the motivation and the difficulty of the problem.
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1 hour ago, Coach Brobst said:
Now I have been on the other side of the coin and can see that that extra 2 pounds will be extremely harmful for some (my 106 weighs 103 on a heavy day and to have to wrestle some 110 guys will be a tall task)
28 minutes ago, aoberlin said:I don't feel sad for those poor frail near-adults that made the decision to cut weight to make a certain class. You can't have it both ways. There is an absolute reason for weight classes.
Ha! My son, starting at 87 lbs, spent 3 years battling kids anywhere from 5 to 25 (no exaggeration) lbs heavier. Until 'everyone' enforces it (whatever 'it' is), you will always have it. Beyond that, their success and recognition encourages them. Why wouldn't they do it?
My son is right sized now, and he has to cut a couple pounds each week, but it's not is terribly difficult. Is that okay or should he jump up and wrestle against kids that are naturally 10 lbs heavier? (That said, it's a bit late).
Just to be clear, I'm serious about the first paragraph and somewhat less about the second.
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Sollars and Purdy
Conway and Law
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How confident are you about 132?
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8 minutes ago, JORVILLE said:
I would say pretty good but draw will definitely be important. At 106 without disrespecting the kids at each Semi State but believe she would want to draw into New Castle on Friday Night
Hey, hey, hey let's keep her away from kids at New Castle
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3 minutes ago, Bulldog89 said:
No but I do have it on my phone. It was a good match and Easton definitely wants a rematch. Tanner was just a bit more savvy and Easton has been working on some stuff to fix some things
He'll get one (probably many times). And, I'm sure it'll be another barn burner. Like Johns and Ocampo, I knew the first was going to be good one. Tanner is very good. Good luck through the series.
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8 minutes ago, JORVILLE said:
I have said since before this season even began she would make State. I will stand by that still
I think the question isn't so much, making State, it's placing at State. What are those odds?
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4 minutes ago, Bulldog89 said:
Yeah, I think she is making believers out of a lot of people. My son, Easton and her had wrestled against each other when they were little so I saw her back then and knew she would be good. You just don't know until she get on the mat with the high school boys but she has done very well and she is such a great kid too.
Ha! Your son's not damn bad either. That's a couple of young and pretty good drill partners. Do you have that Tishner match on FB too
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8 minutes ago, Bulldog89 said:
She lost to Johns at the Bill Kerbel in overtime.
Yeah. I watched the scoring on Track (you make do). Not much distance between the two, and I think Johns is underrated.
As soon as the dark horse thread appears, he'll be on my list. She can't be a dark horse because everyone already knows about her (or they'd better).
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3 hours ago, dadslifeof3 said:
Julianna Ocampo won her sectional with a Major Decision and will be the favorite to win the Carroll Regional.
I would guess her main competition is May, Johns, and Bollinger at SS. She's a threat to any 106.
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Maria Rescalvo #4 Elkhart
There are quite a few, and I wouldn't bet against one or two of them getting through.
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A few others:
Heather Crull #1 Shenandoah
Catie Campbell #1 Crawfordsville
K`yla Johnson #2 Southport
Torie Buchanan #2 Bloomington North
Makenize Smith #2 Castle
- jaycer02, Hirsej01, MUSKEEWRESTLER and 1 other
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What's the story with the Mooresville 106 Regional qualifiers? It's easy enough to fill in, but is there more to it than a hiccup?
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23 minutes ago, TeamGarcia said:
Headliner match: 126- #8) #1)Haines vs. #9) #4)Hott
Yep, like many major upsets, those downstream take the brunt.
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I get there is specific criteria, but Brooks is clearly not a 6 seed.
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@ontherise219 Mike could you refresh us all with what stage this is?
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2 hours ago, formercollegekid said:
10. Center Grove will have 3 champs
I'm assuming you expect Buchanan and Watson win, but who is your third Center Grove champ? Johnson, Merritt?
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Probably 10a
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41 minutes ago, AJ said:
I did not have a dog in this fight...
I've spent the day speculating, but I'd bet that might change next year?
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10 minutes ago, X_R A T E D said:
Will we ever see the undercard event again?!.... Speed walking state championship for lower section seats! Thanks Covid!
For the love of God, NO!
Are you using 'speed walking' as a euphemism for 'Panicked Crowd Surge?' I've been one of the first at the front doors five of the last six years. But, after the three gate elbow fests, I'm still beaten by fifteen Chesterton mothers with reams of yellow tape...year after blessed year.
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7 hours ago, Jstephenson1356 said:
Wrestler 1-(19-2) wins over 2,3,5 no losses to anyone in field pretty clear number 1 (freshman)
Wrestler 2-(15-5) record .75 win percentage has wins over wrestler 4,5
regional qualifier.
Wrestler 3-(19-7 Record) .73 Has win over wrestler 2 loss to wrestler 5
semi-state qualifier
Wrestler 4- (7-3 record) .70 win percentage. Has win over wrestler wrestler 5 and loss to Wrestler 2
semi-state qualifier
Wrestler 5- (10-5 record) .667 win percentage. Has 2 losses to wrestler 4, one loss to wrestler 2 and a win over wrestler 3. (Freshman)
I suspect this is a bunch of 106s. If so, should be an interesting sectional at that weight.
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10 minutes ago, JustAnotherFan said:
Almost a third of the ranked 182’s are at Evansville
10 of the 106
a third of 113
etc.
Evansville SS blood round is going to be….Awesome !
Useless, of course, you are one of those kids who doesn't make it out. Ouch!
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24 minutes ago, Wrestlingfan937 said:
But the real question is when will the brackets drop
According to Track, Wednesday morning at 9:00A likely Central time.
Article: 2022 Semi-State Information Center
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Posted · Edited by gsmith58
Holly Molly! I didn't even get a chance to get home and eat.
Fantastic!