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Amazingly we work in the same building, perhaps you're not as smart as you think you are, which you've proven to be the case over the past week. I've met and talked to several members on this board and they have met Vito as well, so they can provide you with any proof you need that we are not the same person, but way to deflect when you are dealing with people who are smarter than you and can have an educated debate, unlike most of the people you like to pick on. Go ahead, take your ball and run away and pick on the small kids that are no threat to you. 

Oh totally your bad if you thought we were friends, never my intention. The only way you're coming to my house is to fix something, and by how ignorant you come off, cleaning my pool seems to be your limit. Good luck to you and the rest of your "friends" I'm out and am ashamed that I've wasted so much of my time dealing with this foolishness, for that I blame myself. I joined to participate in wrestling discussion but if you disagree with The Three Amigos, you're ostracized (that means you're an outcast Mike). For the last time, sportsfan out.

Amazingly we work in the same building, perhaps you're not as smart as you think you are, which you've proven to be the case over the past week. I've met and talked to several members on this board and they have met Vito as well, so they can provide you with any proof you need that we are not the same person, but way to deflect when you are dealing with people who are smarter than you and can have an educated debate, unlike most of the people you like to pick on. Go ahead, take your ball and run away and pick on the small kids that are no threat to you. 

I'm not taking my ball and going home, the Gorillas got kicked out and told to stay home.
 
 
They got kicked out for offering the same exact product for cheaper and provided a better experience. I'm sorry for doing that and will try to make the kids' experience less fun and enjoyable in the future.

You're a smart guy from everything I've read of yours, today was probably a low point in my opinion of you, but I digress, your anger toward NWCA is self serving in my opinion. Do I think you care about kids, yeah I 100% believe that, but do you have a monetary motivation as well, yes, you do. It's almost a conflict of interest to be honest, you have a for profit website and product you are trying to promote and want to put the best team together to represent your brand, in the process, you undermine state sanctioning bodies by taking the best athletes by offering a lower price and "better gear", all of which you're able to do off of the backs of the wrestling community that supports your website. Why not support the sanctioning bodies and work with them, and in this case allow them to put the best team possible together. Heck, a good businessman might offer to get the gear at a good price for the team and give a donation, as long as it has your logo on the back.  Doing this helps the kids, allows the best team to represent our state, and you pump your product, everyone wins.  There's no doubt in my mind your website has been good for our state and sport, but if your goal is truly to help the sport grow, I'm not sure you're going about it the right way at this point in time. 

Y2, you constantly talk about growing the sport and doing what's best for the sport, yet your actions show the exact opposite. You don't get what you want, so you'll go home and take your ball with you, but along the way you'll make kids pay for other adults not doing what you want? For all the good you do for the sport of wrestling you do equal amount of bad by alienating people with your juvenile behavior. I also love how you point out the person in the hall of fame only had 3 qualifiers in his career, way to take the high road on that one.

I'm not taking my ball and going home, the Gorillas got kicked out and told to stay home.
 
 
They got kicked out for offering the same exact product for cheaper and provided a better experience. I'm sorry for doing that and will try to make the kids' experience less fun and enjoyable in the future.

You're a smart guy from everything I've read of yours, today was probably a low point in my opinion of you, but I digress, your anger toward NWCA is self serving in my opinion. Do I think you care about kids, yeah I 100% believe that, but do you have a monetary motivation as well, yes, you do. It's almost a conflict of interest to be honest, you have a for profit website and product you are trying to promote and want to put the best team together to represent your brand, in the process, you undermine state sanctioning bodies by taking the best athletes by offering a lower price and "better gear", all of which you're able to do off of the backs of the wrestling community that supports your website. Why not support the sanctioning bodies and work with them, and in this case allow them to put the best team possible together. Heck, a good businessman might offer to get the gear at a good price for the team and give a donation, as long as it has your logo on the back.  Doing this helps the kids, allows the best team to represent our state, and you pump your product, everyone wins.  There's no doubt in my mind your website has been good for our state and sport, but if your goal is truly to help the sport grow, I'm not sure you're going about it the right way at this point in time. 

Y2, you constantly talk about growing the sport and doing what's best for the sport, yet your actions show the exact opposite. You don't get what you want, so you'll go home and take your ball with you, but along the way you'll make kids pay for other adults not doing what you want? For all the good you do for the sport of wrestling you do equal amount of bad by alienating people with your juvenile behavior. I also love how you point out the person in the hall of fame only had 3 qualifiers in his career, way to take the high road on that one.

Y2, you constantly talk about growing the sport and doing what's best for the sport, yet your actions show the exact opposite. You don't get what you want, so you'll go home and take your ball with you, but along the way you'll make kids pay for other adults not doing what you want? For all the good you do for the sport of wrestling you do equal amount of bad by alienating people with your juvenile behavior. I also love how you point out the person in the hall of fame only had 3 qualifiers in his career, way to take the high road on that one.

I'm not taking my ball and going home, the Gorillas got kicked out and told to stay home.
 
 
They got kicked out for offering the same exact product for cheaper and provided a better experience. I'm sorry for doing that and will try to make the kids' experience less fun and enjoyable in the future.

You're a smart guy from everything I've read of yours, today was probably a low point in my opinion of you, but I digress, your anger toward NWCA is self serving in my opinion. Do I think you care about kids, yeah I 100% believe that, but do you have a monetary motivation as well, yes, you do. It's almost a conflict of interest to be honest, you have a for profit website and product you are trying to promote and want to put the best team together to represent your brand, in the process, you undermine state sanctioning bodies by taking the best athletes by offering a lower price and "better gear", all of which you're able to do off of the backs of the wrestling community that supports your website. Why not support the sanctioning bodies and work with them, and in this case allow them to put the best team possible together. Heck, a good businessman might offer to get the gear at a good price for the team and give a donation, as long as it has your logo on the back.  Doing this helps the kids, allows the best team to represent our state, and you pump your product, everyone wins.  There's no doubt in my mind your website has been good for our state and sport, but if your goal is truly to help the sport grow, I'm not sure you're going about it the right way at this point in time. 

Y2, you constantly talk about growing the sport and doing what's best for the sport, yet your actions show the exact opposite. You don't get what you want, so you'll go home and take your ball with you, but along the way you'll make kids pay for other adults not doing what you want? For all the good you do for the sport of wrestling you do equal amount of bad by alienating people with your juvenile behavior. I also love how you point out the person in the hall of fame only had 3 qualifiers in his career, way to take the high road on that one.

Y2, you constantly talk about growing the sport and doing what's best for the sport, yet your actions show the exact opposite. You don't get what you want, so you'll go home and take your ball with you, but along the way you'll make kids pay for other adults not doing what you want? For all the good you do for the sport of wrestling you do equal amount of bad by alienating people with your juvenile behavior. I also love how you point out the person in the hall of fame only had 3 qualifiers in his career, way to take the high road on that one.

I saw a new wrestling strategy last night as I was looking for ways to evolve and improve the wrestling of our middle school team.  I came across this new method of wearing down your opponent that could revolutionize wrestling as we know it. Enjoy!
 
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/4-old-wrestler-runs-away-competitor-mat-201703914--abc-news-parenting.html

This year they had 10, 4, 1, and 1. They showed up with an undefeated wrestler with 50+ wins who didn't get out. As long as I can remember the Harrison kids come to semi-state with gaudy win totals and rarely get any to state, and now they're getting 4 in 2018? I'm with Mike, they wouldn't be a team I'd invite. Perhaps beefing up the schedule and proving they belong would change my mind. History has shown their 40 and 50 win guys have very misleading records.

Harrison would be a great addition to the Harvest Classic. I know the goal has always been to get the best teams there and they've eliminated a few teams that weren't competitive over the past few years. There are a few teams that as an outsider, I'd easily drop to add Harrison.  Not sure how it works, but if the coach wanted in, a phone call or email to Coach Morgan would be a good start. 

I doubt he wants the competition. Ha. His guys might not get 50 wins if he upgrades his schedule.

Ugh I can't believe I'm doing this, but in defense of Brownsburg, their coaches and parents do not come on here and pound their chests. The hash tag garbage was a different school in their county. If I rooted against Brownsburg kids it has everything to do with the success of their program. They're doing something right over there and I love to see the giant get slayed. Have to beat the best to be the best and right now the kids in purple are the giants. Ok I have to go shower.

If classing wresting happened, I think as fans, we'd all make the best of it. I've seen the IHSA wrestling state finals on television because I live in the Chicago land area, it's not the same as our state championship matches, this isn't an argument in any way, but we do have something special. Sometimes you need to be careful about what you ask for. The trend in IHSA is for schools to bump up and wrestle in the big class. Over the last 2 years, Mt. Carmel, and Marian Catholic made the choice to go up to chase the stiffer competition. I applaud those programs for doing this. There are small inner city schools like Bowen HS that lack the resources and family commitment to compete with the big boys, so it's nice for them to have a 1a tournament and get rewarded. During the year Bowen does wrestle the 3a schools to test their metal, and are typically outclassed, but do manage a win here and there. If we did class, 2 classes would be more than enough in my opinion, seeing the watered down 3 classes in Illinois is too much for me to stomach. This discussion never really goes anywhere and I don't foresee the state classing wrestling so it's really a mute point. I love our tournament for selfish reasons, but don't mind helping the little guys with a 1a tournament if it happened.

Over the course of the past few years I've noticed the college style of wrestling evolving, not only do the elite guys have to be solid in all 3 positions, but they also have an element of "funk" in their bag of tricks. As a general observation, the Portage and EMD light weights seem to be excellent at dropping to an ankle and rolling through. There were several individuals who were good at this over the weekend, but the two programs I mentioned seem to make this a priority. I guess the point of my post is to see if anyone else has noticed this and whether or not this is a priority in the practice room. I happen to enjoy this style, the kids who can do it make their opponents work harder for a takedown and turn an otherwise bad position into an offensive position.

Over the course of the past few years I've noticed the college style of wrestling evolving, not only do the elite guys have to be solid in all 3 positions, but they also have an element of "funk" in their bag of tricks. As a general observation, the Portage and EMD light weights seem to be excellent at dropping to an ankle and rolling through. There were several individuals who were good at this over the weekend, but the two programs I mentioned seem to make this a priority. I guess the point of my post is to see if anyone else has noticed this and whether or not this is a priority in the practice room. I happen to enjoy this style, the kids who can do it make their opponents work harder for a takedown and turn an otherwise bad position into an offensive position.

Ugh I can't believe I'm doing this, but in defense of Brownsburg, their coaches and parents do not come on here and pound their chests. The hash tag garbage was a different school in their county. If I rooted against Brownsburg kids it has everything to do with the success of their program. They're doing something right over there and I love to see the giant get slayed. Have to beat the best to be the best and right now the kids in purple are the giants. Ok I have to go shower.

Ugh I can't believe I'm doing this, but in defense of Brownsburg, their coaches and parents do not come on here and pound their chests. The hash tag garbage was a different school in their county. If I rooted against Brownsburg kids it has everything to do with the success of their program. They're doing something right over there and I love to see the giant get slayed. Have to beat the best to be the best and right now the kids in purple are the giants. Ok I have to go shower.

We heard this talk about his older brother, and he walked away with one title, this is the type of garbage talk that makes people root against great kids. B. Lee's mom, dad, and coaches never come on here and pound their chests about how great he is, they allow B. Lee to show us on the mat, and the ear to ear smile he always has can't help but make you like him. Please let the kids write their stories. Ok soapbox done.

Tonte was very gracious is defeat, had to be tough being so close 3 times, but give the kid credit, he handled it with class. It's a shame he doesn't have another year, I'm a fan after viewing his actions.

Tonte was very gracious is defeat, had to be tough being so close 3 times, but give the kid credit, he handled it with class. It's a shame he doesn't have another year, I'm a fan after viewing his actions.

Tonte was very gracious is defeat, had to be tough being so close 3 times, but give the kid credit, he handled it with class. It's a shame he doesn't have another year, I'm a fan after viewing his actions.