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  1. Oh totally your bad if you thought we were friends, never my intention. The only way you're coming to my house is to fix something, and by how ignorant you come off, cleaning my pool seems to be your limit. Good luck to you and the rest of your "friends" I'm out and am ashamed that I've wasted so much of my time dealing with this foolishness, for that I blame myself. I joined to participate in wrestling discussion but if you disagree with The Three Amigos, you're ostracized (that means you're an outcast Mike). For the last time, sportsfan out.
  2. You're playing in the end of the pool you don't belong here, trust me, one only needs to look at your clear lack of understanding of the English language to prove this, just keep your mouth closed before I take that announcing gig from you and let Vito do it.
  3. Amazingly we work in the same building, perhaps you're not as smart as you think you are, which you've proven to be the case over the past week. I've met and talked to several members on this board and they have met Vito as well, so they can provide you with any proof you need that we are not the same person, but way to deflect when you are dealing with people who are smarter than you and can have an educated debate, unlike most of the people you like to pick on. Go ahead, take your ball and run away and pick on the small kids that are no threat to you.
  4. If it's all about growing the sport, helping the kids, and getting "cool" gear, then why not sponsor the teams with Gorilla gear? Perhaps there's some ego and financial gain that are motivating factors as well? Also, in a free market economy like the US has, there are rules that "outsiders" or those who import must follow, which typically level the playing field for those who build American. If the companies don't like the tariffs and extra taxes they must pay, they are free to not participate in our free market economy, and no amount of bellyaching changes the rules in their favor. Those with the power make the rules. Just food for thought.
  5. I'm not taking my ball and going home, the Gorillas got kicked out and told to stay home. They got kicked out for offering the same exact product for cheaper and provided a better experience. I'm sorry for doing that and will try to make the kids' experience less fun and enjoyable in the future. You're a smart guy from everything I've read of yours, today was probably a low point in my opinion of you, but I digress, your anger toward NWCA is self serving in my opinion. Do I think you care about kids, yeah I 100% believe that, but do you have a monetary motivation as well, yes, you do. It's almost a conflict of interest to be honest, you have a for profit website and product you are trying to promote and want to put the best team together to represent your brand, in the process, you undermine state sanctioning bodies by taking the best athletes by offering a lower price and "better gear", all of which you're able to do off of the backs of the wrestling community that supports your website. Why not support the sanctioning bodies and work with them, and in this case allow them to put the best team possible together. Heck, a good businessman might offer to get the gear at a good price for the team and give a donation, as long as it has your logo on the back. Doing this helps the kids, allows the best team to represent our state, and you pump your product, everyone wins. There's no doubt in my mind your website has been good for our state and sport, but if your goal is truly to help the sport grow, I'm not sure you're going about it the right way at this point in time.
  6. Y2, you constantly talk about growing the sport and doing what's best for the sport, yet your actions show the exact opposite. You don't get what you want, so you'll go home and take your ball with you, but along the way you'll make kids pay for other adults not doing what you want? For all the good you do for the sport of wrestling you do equal amount of bad by alienating people with your juvenile behavior. I also love how you point out the person in the hall of fame only had 3 qualifiers in his career, way to take the high road on that one.
  7. My bad on the double post, I was informed this was posted yesterday.
  8. I saw a new wrestling strategy last night as I was looking for ways to evolve and improve the wrestling of our middle school team. I came across this new method of wearing down your opponent that could revolutionize wrestling as we know it. Enjoy! https://www.yahoo.com/gma/4-old-wrestler-runs-away-competitor-mat-201703914--abc-news-parenting.html
  9. If the argument is solid and true, why would I change it? You're annoyed because it's true, I can't help you with that. I am very much unbiased, I just like watching good wrestling. In all fairness, Harrison was probably the 5th best team at EC, higher than Hobart but below Chesterton, Portage, Merrillville, CP. even with senior losses all those teams beat them next year, but they close the gap with Merrillville.
  10. I give my opinion because it's unbiased, educated, and brings value to the conversation. While I may not care for the team aspect of wrestling, it doesn't mean I can't identify good teams. I said in an earlier post that I felt Harrison was a slightly above average team, but not worthy of an invitation to team state. They wrestle in a weak regional and have huge win total that are often misleading, can anything I posted really be considered off base? My constructive advice is drop the majority of the current schedule and earn your way in by wrestling better competition, it may result in less wins, but will make the team battle tested and give them more credibility.
  11. Who's Harrison's last state champ in wrestling? Must have been 70-0, oh wait that's never happened. I was trying to have a diplomatic conversation and stating what I thought it would take, in my opinion, for Harrison to be considered for the team state duals, I never said LC belonged. My personal opinion is that I don't care much for the team aspect of wrestling, but since the IHSWCA goes through the trouble, they should get the best teams. I have history and data to prove Harrison regularly shows up with incredible win totals for their individuals and they mean nothing since only a handful have made it to state over the past 10 years. The truth hurts, I get it.
  12. This year they had 10, 4, 1, and 1. They showed up with an undefeated wrestler with 50+ wins who didn't get out. As long as I can remember the Harrison kids come to semi-state with gaudy win totals and rarely get any to state, and now they're getting 4 in 2018? I'm with Mike, they wouldn't be a team I'd invite. Perhaps beefing up the schedule and proving they belong would change my mind. History has shown their 40 and 50 win guys have very misleading records.
  13. I agree with a lot of that statement, except the announcer, but like you said, always looking to improve.
  14. Not to pile it on Lafayette Harrison, but I did a little math and their 10 Semi-State Qualifiers came in with a combined 413-73 record, which is a .849 winning percentage as a team, rather impressive. At the semi-state they went a combined 6-10 for a .375 win percentage and got one wrestler to state. If you remove the one wrestler that actually got to state, they went 3-9 as a team, a .25 win percentage. I'd also like to add that of the 10 wrestlers, 5 had 40 or more wins, and 3 had 50 wins, which to regionrumblers point proves they have a lot of empty wins. Ultimately they either wrestle in a weak regional or a strong semi-state, I'll let you decide. I'd like to add that I sat by the Harrison fans and they are into their wrestling and support their kids and have the beginnings of a good program, but I think they'd be a slightly above average dual team and really have no business at team state, I don't think Hobart does at this point either, but they have a nice group of young wrestlers coming up that could easily change that opinion.
  15. Harrison would be a great addition to the Harvest Classic. I know the goal has always been to get the best teams there and they've eliminated a few teams that weren't competitive over the past few years. There are a few teams that as an outsider, I'd easily drop to add Harrison. Not sure how it works, but if the coach wanted in, a phone call or email to Coach Morgan would be a good start.
  16. I think the essence of your post with Mills was probably shared by others, with regard to the lack of offense, but as a general rule of thumb, I try to keep opinions like that between my friends and I in private discussions. When you call out someone's child, friend, or coaching pupil, on a messageboard, I think it's normal to expect backlash. Stealing a line from my lovely wife, it's not what you said, it's how you said it. Perhaps there was a more diplomatic way to share your feelings on the Mills finals match. To be fair, I shared your opinion and thought that Ty's lack of aggression may have cost him the match, he's far more gifted than he showed in that match, but having never been in a situation like that, I can't begin to imagine what was going through his mind. It's a lot easier for us to sit on our keyboards and point out what he should have done, but the majority of us don't know the pressure and all that comes with wrestling for 6 minutes in front of 10K people is like. No need to leave the board, perhaps exercise a bit of caution when posting specific names.
  17. Mr millls Forrester Gump is a lot like that unmedicated in your kindergarten class. Waves his arms, makes a lot of noise and craps his pants--anything to get attention. Loved watching Ty and his contribution to his team's state title.[/quote I think you identified who the clever kid in school was with your post. End sarcasm.
  18. If classing wresting happened, I think as fans, we'd all make the best of it. I've seen the IHSA wrestling state finals on television because I live in the Chicago land area, it's not the same as our state championship matches, this isn't an argument in any way, but we do have something special. Sometimes you need to be careful about what you ask for. The trend in IHSA is for schools to bump up and wrestle in the big class. Over the last 2 years, Mt. Carmel, and Marian Catholic made the choice to go up to chase the stiffer competition. I applaud those programs for doing this. There are small inner city schools like Bowen HS that lack the resources and family commitment to compete with the big boys, so it's nice for them to have a 1a tournament and get rewarded. During the year Bowen does wrestle the 3a schools to test their metal, and are typically outclassed, but do manage a win here and there. If we did class, 2 classes would be more than enough in my opinion, seeing the watered down 3 classes in Illinois is too much for me to stomach. This discussion never really goes anywhere and I don't foresee the state classing wrestling so it's really a mute point. I love our tournament for selfish reasons, but don't mind helping the little guys with a 1a tournament if it happened.
  19. Ugh I can't believe I'm doing this, but in defense of Brownsburg, their coaches and parents do not come on here and pound their chests. The hash tag garbage was a different school in their county. If I rooted against Brownsburg kids it has everything to do with the success of their program. They're doing something right over there and I love to see the giant get slayed. Have to beat the best to be the best and right now the kids in purple are the giants. Ok I have to go shower.
  20. Over the course of the past few years I've noticed the college style of wrestling evolving, not only do the elite guys have to be solid in all 3 positions, but they also have an element of "funk" in their bag of tricks. As a general observation, the Portage and EMD light weights seem to be excellent at dropping to an ankle and rolling through. There were several individuals who were good at this over the weekend, but the two programs I mentioned seem to make this a priority. I guess the point of my post is to see if anyone else has noticed this and whether or not this is a priority in the practice room. I happen to enjoy this style, the kids who can do it make their opponents work harder for a takedown and turn an otherwise bad position into an offensive position.
  21. We heard this talk about his older brother, and he walked away with one title, this is the type of garbage talk that makes people root against great kids. B. Lee's mom, dad, and coaches never come on here and pound their chests about how great he is, they allow B. Lee to show us on the mat, and the ear to ear smile he always has can't help but make you like him. Please let the kids write their stories. Ok soapbox done.
  22. Tonte was very gracious is defeat, had to be tough being so close 3 times, but give the kid credit, he handled it with class. It's a shame he doesn't have another year, I'm a fan after viewing his actions.
  23. Josh Harper was one yes,but he placed and Cody Phillips too. I thought he won Friday, lost Saturday morning and then defaulted. I could be wrong, going off memory. There was another in the 90's, Bradley? LOL! Too soon?
  24. I'm fairly certain Cummings was the first. There have only been a handful of guys going for 3 or 4 titles who didn't win their senior year. The most recent was the young man Cody, don't remember his last name, but he placed. Someone in mid 90's did the same but he placed too.
  25. They'd have to win all 3 and Brownsburg would have to go1-3. Bonus points don't seem likely so I believe this is the only way they win. Not sure what 1st criteria is for tie, which could happen as well.
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