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  1. i wouldnt count on mishawaka winning next year, theyve been tough competitors for a long time, but losing 10 varsity wrestlers is a huge loss, one that i think cp and penn will be able to beat considering all of them are in the same semi state individual, hopefully it will be an intersting year, goodluck to all!
  2. opinions on which teams are going to make it back to team state? runner up? winner?
  3. placing top 3 i think is wat he expects, but everyones goal is/should be 1st... he keeps gettin stronger and i have no doubt that by the time he finishes his high school career he will have a state champ title
  4. Any idea on when the new rankings will be posted for 10-11 season?
  5. What schools do you think have the best chance at making it to team state next yr? Every team has their seniors they lose, but which schools will be able to pick it up?
  6. if anyone is worried about the spreadong of germs then the trainers (or someone) should be appointed to bring a nice little bottle of hand sanitizer
  7. excuses and facts are different, he told u the same thing i did, im glad he sees it like it is, the thing is we both favor our wrestlers and lean more towards their side thats simply all
  8. I would like to see them go to different colleges actually you may get mad on the mat at practice, but most of that stays on the mat and you are still friends after, but the way this turned out i doubt they will be friends anytime soon the past is the past and we all have our bad moments, so let it all go and dont hold grudges, weve all done things that have been disrespectful to someone and not all of them have been posted on indianamat.. basically... dont judge either wrestler's entire life over this no matter what your opinion is on the situation, life goes on and people make mistakes were all human
  9. Honestly i think Vlahos would have beaten Willis if he can put willis on his back in the 1st 30 seconds that impressive
  10. Who cares if his dream was shattered? Obviously him, his family, team, friends, and fans... i dont know why you have to ask... He has shook coaches hands after losing many times. Its not like everytime he loses he refuses to shake hands. Again you are singling him out like hes the one and only to ever do that. Im sure if he wouldve shook your hand if he knew you were going to complain about it this much.
  11. I know vlahos is very competitive and will do almost anything to win, but one thing he isnt is a bad sport.
  12. agreed duck! Also he isnt the only wrestler that walked off the mat without shaking the other coaches hand... I saw it even in the finals. So if you are going to complain about not shaking hands with him, make sure you talk about every other wrestler that has done the same thing instead of singling him out
  13. Another difference being the state tournament and it being the 1st match after he lost his dream... Vlahos didnt refuse to shake your hand b/c he has bad sportsmanship, he didnt shake it b/c the state finals meant everything to him, and it was gone... HE WAS UPSET, its not always about you, sometimes its just the other person
  14. dont judge, get to know him, everyones made mistake or done things they arnt proud of, dont hold everything theyve ever done wrong against them. He has to live with wat he did and all he can do is learn fro, his mistakes... just like tiger woods lol idk why you brought his name up...
  15. idk why you keep talking about optional sportsmanship... but you are going off track.. we were discussing how upset you were b/c he didnt shake your hand.. not how he shows sportsmanship infront of 10000 instead of 50. The state tournament meant more to him. So after his loss hes going to be very upset... Like i said before, everyone is flawed and dont make the best choices all the time, you are no different
  16. thats not the point i was making, its the difference between the state tournament, that has like you said 10000 people, and just another tournament, with 50 people
  17. Im not saying what mcmurray did was right, im just saying dont judge him if you dont know him, not that you are... i personally dont know him very well, but i dont think any less of him for what he did
  18. Something different between that match and the past ones though... dont you agree? No one can please everyone all the time, like i said dont take it personally, people dont make the best choices when they are emotional, everyone is flawed, even you y2 im sure you havent been a saint 100% of the time either
  19. 3 time state champ is kinda a big deal though, he didnt cause any problems just some arguements and lost a little respect, lighten up
  20. i dont think it was the right thing to do, but theres nothing we could do to stop him from it, and hes going to remember his high school years his whole life, hes proud of his accomplishments and he was acting without thinking in my opinion. I wish i knew what it felt like to be a 3 time state champ, lool i bet its amazing
  21. so you are upset he didnt talk to you? He might just be upet b/c everything he worked for his whole life was gone. So give him a little time to cool off, dont take it personally.. maybe he will send you a txt message in a day or 2
  22. Ive heard talk about the weight classes being changed? Can someone please let me know if they have any information on this?
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