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  1. Brackets
    Click here for brackets on TrackWrestling

     

    Schedule

    Friday March 15

    Session 1 

    Junior Boys & Junior Girls – Prelims and Consolation 

    9:00 AM – 1:00 PM 

     

    Session 2 

    Junior Boys & Junior Girls – Quarterfinals and Consolation 

    3:00 PM – 8:00 PM 

     

    Saturday March 16

    Session 3 

    Junior Boys – Semifinals, Consolation, and Consolation-Semi

    Junior Girls – Consolation, Semifinals, Consolation-Semi and All Medals

    16U Boys – Prelims and Consolation  

    Masters – Prelims and Consolation  

    9:00 AM – 1:00 PM 

     

    Junior Boys – All Medal Matches 

    1:00 PM – 3:00 PM 

     

    Session 4 

    16U Boys – Prelims, Quarters and Consolation

    16U Girls – Prelims and Consolation 

    Masters – If Needed   

    3:00 PM – 7:30 PM 

     

    Sunday March 17 

    Session 5 

    16U Boys - Semifinals, Consolation-Semi, All Medals Matches

    16U Girls - Quarters, Semifinals, Consolation

    9:00 AM – 2:00 PM 

     

    Session 6 

    16U Girls – All Medal Matches 

    2:00 PM – 4:00 PM 

     

    Participants from Indiana

    Division Weight Name State Team
    16U Boys 100 lbs Connor Maddox Indiana Contenders Wrestling Academy
    16U Boys 100 lbs Reed Wicker Indiana Daleville Broncos Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 113 lbs Mason Quarles Indiana Fishers Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 120 lbs Colin Strayer Indiana Region Wrestling Academy
    16U Boys 120 lbs Faruq Ghaffar Indiana M3 Wrestling Academy
    16U Boys 126 lbs Richard Rogers Indiana Franklin Central Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 132 lbs Cooper Wilkins Indiana Portage Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 132 lbs Steven Hunter Indiana Lawrence North Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 138 lbs Amin Mardanzai Indiana Franklin Central Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 138 lbs Jaydin Fisher Indiana Franklin Central Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 138 lbs Phillip Cospy Indiana  
    16U Boys 144 lbs Aiden Hutchison Indiana Crawfordsville Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 150 lbs Erick Grady Indiana Lawrence North Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 150 lbs Moses Stevenson Indiana Franklin Central Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 165 lbs Xavier Smith Indiana Fishers Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 175 lbs Graham Imes Indiana Fishers Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 175 lbs Michael White Indiana Lawrence North Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 190 lbs Julian Burgett Indiana Fishers Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 215 lbs Kellen Fellure Indiana Franklin Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 285 lbs Hayden Smith Indiana Maurer Coughlin Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 88 lbs Cameron Schofield Indiana Franklin Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 88 lbs Carter Sanford Indiana Dragon Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 88 lbs Karson Kahalekomo Indiana Daleville Broncos Wrestling Club
    16U Boys 88 lbs Tyler Quarles Indiana Elite Athletic Club
    16U Girls 100 lbs Kynlie Keffer Indiana Daleville Broncos Wrestling Club
    16U Girls 106 lbs Madisyn Mikels Indiana Portage Wrestling Club
    16U Girls 106 lbs Olivia Crull Indiana Northeastern Wrestling Club
    16U Girls 118 lbs Georgiana Wallace Indiana  
    16U Girls 124 lbs Ava Strayer Indiana Region Wrestling Academy
    16U Girls 130 lbs Aubrey Troutner Indiana  
    16U Girls 130 lbs Naima Ghaffar Indiana M3 Wrestling Academy
    16U Girls 136 lbs Maddie Marsh Indiana Red Cobra Wrestling Academy
    Junior Boys 106 lbs Nash Burke Indiana Munster Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 120 lbs Dominic Sumner Indiana  
    Junior Boys 120 lbs Nathan Toxqui Indiana  
    Junior Boys 120 lbs Owen Ingalls Indiana Fishers Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 120 lbs Seth Aubin Indiana Hobart Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 126 lbs Cameron Woods Indiana  
    Junior Boys 126 lbs Daniel Mata Jr Indiana Hobart Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 132 lbs DShaeon Wilson Indiana  
    Junior Boys 144 lbs Alexander Smith Indiana Maurer Coughlin Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 144 lbs Atticus Finley Indiana  
    Junior Boys 144 lbs Xavier Jackson Indiana  
    Junior Boys 150 lbs Michael Ortega Indiana Portage Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 150 lbs Terry Scott Indiana  
    Junior Boys 157 lbs Christopher Bohn Indiana Region Wrestling Academy
    Junior Boys 157 lbs Jacob Weaver Indiana Central Indiana Academy Of Wrestling
    Junior Boys 157 lbs Noah Davis-Cornett Indiana  
    Junior Boys 165 lbs Diego Carabano Indiana Fishers Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 165 lbs Evan Roudebush Indiana Bloomington South Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 165 lbs Hunter Marlow Indiana Franklin Central Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 165 lbs KiAun Fields Indiana  
    Junior Boys 175 lbs Aidan Costello Indiana Hobart Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 190 lbs Noah Weaver Indiana Central Indiana Academy Of Wrestling
    Junior Boys 215 lbs Everett Mcclelland Indiana Portage Wrestling Club
    Junior Boys 285 lbs Triston Meschede Indiana Portage Wrestling Club
    Junior Girls 100 lbs Kendall Moe Indiana Contenders Wrestling Academy
    Junior Girls 105 lbs Heather Crull Indiana Northeastern Wrestling Club
    Junior Girls 110 lbs Makenize Smith Indiana Maurer Coughlin Wrestling Club
    Junior Girls 130 lbs Hannah Seitzinger Indiana Indian Creek Wrestling Club
    Junior Girls 130 lbs Naima Ghaffar Indiana M3 Wrestling Academy
    Junior Girls 135 lbs Samarrah Sswanigan Indiana  
    Junior Girls 140 lbs Aleksandra Bastaic Indiana Highland Wrestling Club
    Junior Girls 145 lbs Carlee Wilson Indiana  
    Junior Girls 145 lbs Elly Janovsky Indiana Howe Wrestling School, LLC
    Junior Girls 155 lbs Leila Thomas Indiana  
    Junior Girls 170 lbs Adelmaris L. Collazo Gaud Indiana  
    Junior Girls 170 lbs Janiya Brogan Indiana  
    Masters A 100 kg Darren Eads Indiana Bloomington South Wrestling Club
    Masters A 78 kg Jordan Vaughn Indiana Franklin Central Wrestling Club
    Masters B 100 kg Christopher Myers Indiana Carroll Wrestling Club
    Masters B 100 kg James Haddix Indiana  
    Masters B 78 kg Michael Dieter Indiana  

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  2. Location

    La Crosse Center
    La Crosse, Wisconsin

     

    Event Information Page
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    Schedule
    *All Times Central

    Friday, March 15
    11 a.m. | Preliminaries and First Round
    6 p.m. | Quarterfinals and first-and-second round consolations

    Saturday, March 16
    10 a.m. | Semifinals, wrestle backs (seventh-, fifth-, and third-place matches)
    7 p.m. | Championship finals
     

    Brackets
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    Participating wrestlers from Indiana

    Wrestler School High School
    133 Joey Langeman Trine Carmel
    141 Evan Burge Wabash McCutcheon
    165 Jesse Herrera Wabash Highland
    184 Cole Cervantes North Central Griffith
    184 Gavin Layman Ohio Norther Chesterton

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  3. Location:

    Hartman Arena

    Wichita, KS

    Schedule

    Friday, March 15

    11 a.m. Preliminaries and First Round
    6 p.m. Quarterfinals and first-and-second round consolations

     

    Saturday, March 16

    11 a.m. | Semifinals, wrestle backs (seventh-, fifth-, and third-place matches)
    8 p.m. | Championship finals
     

    Brackets
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    Streaming Link

    Click here to watch on FloWrestling

     

    Participating wrestlers from Indiana

    Wrestler School High School
    285 Shawn Streck Central Oklahoma Merrillville
    125 Jose Diaz Gannon Wheeler
    125 Christian Meija McKendree Elkhart Central
    197 Derek Blubaugh Indianapolis Bloomington South

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  4. 4 minutes ago, HWTDAD said:

    Oh I feel you...not knocking the tournament. It was incredibly well run. But having said that there are tournaments that stream that many mats, and knowing the problems with choppy video they had last year and the size of the haul this tournament rakes in.....they could have addressed that over the course of a year

     

    That is a school/venue thing to get that kind of upload speeds. It's not something they can rent for the weekend, at least not something financially feasible.

  5.  By Adrian Troyer

     

    March 8 to 10 is conference tournament weekend in NCAA Division 1 college wrestling. This is intense in terms of medals and bragging rights--but it is arguably an even bigger deal in the national context. Every one of the 750+ college kids that takes the mat gets a shot to qualify for the biggest wrestling show in America—the NCAA Division 1 National Championships.

     

    Here is a full rundown by conference of each seed, weight class context, and advancement possibility for the 18 participants who were Indiana high school wrestlers:

     

    Atlantic Coast Conference

    Sunday, March 10, on ACCN and ACCN Extra (access through ESPN+)

    Brackets: here

     

    Connor Barket, 285, Duke (West Lafayette), redshirt freshman

    Seed: 5 of 6, NCAA Allocations: 2, Rank: 42 (WrestleStat, starters only)

    Connor has made huge strides this year as the full-time Duke starter, but he will struggle in a weight class that boasts 4 guys ranked in the Top 33 by InterMat with only 2 NCAA allocation spots available. He’ll need to first upset #13 Dayton Pitzer of Pitt (whose injury the past 2 months explains one of the missing allocation spots) in the quarterfinals before he’d also need to upset the 1-seed, #14 Owen Trephan of NC State, to reach the final and an NCAA bid.

    NCAA Prospectus: Not likely.

     

    Southern Conference

    Saturday, March 9, on ESPN+

    Brackets: here

     

    Blake Boarman, 133, Tennessee-Chattanooga (Ev. Mater Dei), redshirt sophomore

    Seed: 3 of 8, NCAA Allocations: 3, Rank: 31 (InterMat)

    Blake has burst onto the scene this year in his move down from 141 to 133. He’s ranked in all the national services and earned one of his conference’s allocation spots. He’ll start his tournament against the 6-seed, George Rosas of The Citadel, who he beat, 9-1, in the dual. He’d then likely see the 2-seed, Ethan Oakley of App State, who he upset by fall in the dual in his biggest win of the year. A win there would earn an automatic NCAA bid. A loss would put him into the wrestle-backs needing to get 3rd for an automatic bid. Awaiting him there could be a potential matchup with the 5-seed Dyson Dunham of VMI, who handed Blake his only unranked loss of the season, 7-4. Even if Blake were to place 4th or 5th at this tournament, his regular season and current ranking would give him a good chance of an at-large NCAA berth.

    NCAA Prospectus: Very likely

     

    Brodie Porter, 174, The Citadel (Eastern-Greentown), sophomore

    Seed: 5 of 8, NCAA Allocations: 1, Rank: 61 (WrestleStat, starters only)

    Brodie has become a very solid Division 1 competitor in his second year as the starter. Sadly, he’s had two bad losses in-conference—one by Technical Fall to the 4-seed, Uliano of App State, and the other 17-4 to the 1-seed, #19 Murphy of Campbell—and those are the exact two guys he needs to beat to make the final and a shot at the 1st Place that an NCAA bid demands here. He’s got a winning record and only tight losses in his other conference matches, so he could legitimately fight for a top 3 spot in the league.

    NCAA Prospectus: Not likely

     

    Hayden Watson, 157, The Citadel (Center Grove), redshirt freshman

    Seed: 4 of 8, NCAA Allocations: 1, Rank: 48 (WrestleStat, starters only)

    Hayden is a sleeper to get to the NCAA tournament. Like his teammate Porter, he has won about half of his D1 matches this year. However, Hayden’s beaten or been very close with every guy in the bracket—including losing only 12-9 in sudden victory to the 1-seed, #22 Askey of App State. To get to that semifinal, he first needs to knock off the 5-seed, Heck of Chattanooga, who he beat 7-4 during the regular season.

    NCAA Prospectus: Dark horse longshot

     

    Andrew Wilson, 165, Gardner-Webb (Cathedral), redshirt sophomore

    Seed: 6 of 8, NCAA Allocations: 2, Rank: 72 (WrestleStat, starters only)

    Andrew has struggled to string together very many wins in his second year as the G-W starter. He’ll open with the 3-seed, Haubert of The Citadel, who majored him 13-1 during the year. Sadly, Wilson isn’t quite on the level of the top several guys here, so he’ll be looking to make some noise in terms of placement and improvement.

    NCAA Prospectus: Very unlikely

     

    Big Ten Conference

    Saturday/Sunday, March 9-10, on the Big Ten Network and BTN+

    Brackets: here

     

    Silas Allred, 197, Nebraska (Shenandoah), redshirt sophomore

    Seed: 4 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 7, Rank: 13 (InterMat)

    With a good seed, a high ranking ensuring an at-large fallback berth, and plenty of slots available; Silas obviously has his sights set higher than an NCAA berth this weekend. He’ll be looking to generate some of that Big 10 magic he produced during a title run last year, while building confidence for an All-American run at nationals. He’ll start this tournament against Striggow of Michigan, who he dominated this season, before a potential matchup with #20 Garrett Joles of Minnesota in the quarterfinals. Silas beat Joles, 4-1 in sudden victory, during the season.

    NCAA Prospectus: Certain, barring injury

     

    Evan Bates, 197, Northwestern (Chesterton), redshirt sophomore

    Seed: 8 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 7, Rank: 34 (WrestleStat, starters only)

    In terms of seed, Evan is right outside the cut line for getting an automatic bid at this weight. He would be clearly in the conversation for an at-large bid with his Coaches’ Rank and RPI numbers being in the Top 33, but it sure would be nice to place in the Top 7 here and seal it. He’ll start with 9-seed Vanadia of Purdue, who he beat, 11-4, in the dual. Even though he’d almost certainly fall then to #1 Brooks of Penn St. in the quarterfinals, that first round win would go a long way in keeping him in a good bracketed spot to eventually face 6-seed Geog of Ohio St. and 7-seed Poznanski of Rutgers in potential NCAA bid-winning matches.

    NCAA Prospectus: Fifty-fifty

     

    Brody Baumann, 174, Purdue (Ev. Mater Dei), redshirt freshman

    Seed: 10 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 8, Rank: 32 (InterMat)

    Brody has become a solid starter in his first year in the spot, but he’s got work to do to claim an NCAA bid. He’ll need to win one or two above his 10 seed depending on how the bracket and true finisher matchups come out. He lost during the year to seeds 7, 8, and 9 above him, but he gets a gigantic rematch right out of the gate with 7-seed, #15 Max Maylor of Wisconsin, who beat Brody, 19-16, in a crazy one in the dual.

    NCAA Prospectus: Possible, but work to do

     

    Lucas Davison, 285, Michigan (Chesterton), senior

    Seed: 3 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 7, Rank: 6 (InterMat)

    Lucas is one of a few basically automatic qualifiers from Indiana. He would need a season-ending injury not to get a berth, one way or another. He starts with Hayden Filipovich of Purdue in Round 1 and is probably hoping for a shot to avenge his loss to 2-seed Feldman of Ohio State eventually, and to meet #1 Kerkvliet in the final.

    NCAA Prospectus: Certain

     

    Hayden Filipovich, 285, Purdue (Indy Lutheran), redshirt sophomore

    Seed: 14 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 7, Rank: 37 (WrestleStat, starters only)

    Hayden actually made great strides at 184 this year and picked up a couple of very nice wins as the backup. However, stepping into Big 10s as the backup way up at 285, having only had one previous match at the weight, will be a crazy endeavor. He’ll start with fellow Indiana native, 3-seed Davison of Michigan. I’m sure Hayden’s main goal for this tournament will be continuing to build for the future.

    NCAA Prospectus: Far longshot

     

    Brayton Lee, 157, Indiana (Brownsburg), senior

    Seed: 3 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 9, Rank: 15 (InterMat)

    Brayton has had a fantastic comeback run here. Certainly all of Indiana will be pulling for the former Mr. Gorilla to make one final attempt at All-American glory. He starts this tournament against 14-seed Swaw of Illinois before he’d probably see the 6-seed, #20 Saldate of Michigan St. If he gets past those two, he’s most likely back at nationals. The only iffy thing here is always Lee’s health. If he has any issues and stumbles to a 12th place or something in a very deep weight class, he could get left out of the NCAA field with his very limited late-season résumé.

    NCAA Prospectus: Probable

     

    Diego Lemley, 141, Michigan (Chesterton), freshman

    Seed: 5 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 11, Rank: 10 (InterMat)

    We’ll give Diego honorary Indiana status here for the great one-season run he had in our tournament during the covid year (and for being from here!!). Diego is one of the breakout stars of NCAA wrestling. He’ll have many eyes on him for his style and his ability to beat anybody in the country at nationals. He starts out here versus 12-seed Clark of Purdue before a potential rematch of a high-flying, super-tight loss to 4-seed Brock Hardy of Nebraska.

    NCAA Prospectus: Almost certain

     

    Jesse Mendez, 141, Ohio St. (Crown Point), sophomore

    Seed: 2 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 11, Rank: 2 (InterMat)

    Jesse has evolved into a true title contender this year. He’ll be happy with nothing less than a championship in a couple of weeks. He gets a shot here at his first Big 10 title, and to resume the wars at this brutal Big 10 weight class. He’ll probably get 7-seed Moore of Rutgers in the quarterfinals after his first-round bye.

    NCAA Prospectus: Certain

     

    Cayden Rooks, 133, Indiana (Columbus East), senior

    Seed: 10 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 7, Rank: 57 (WrestleStat, starters only)

    Cayden has held down the fort admirably for a long time now, so he’ll be hoping to go out with a bang. He’ll most likely need two clear upsets to get an automatic spot. An at-large spot won’t be possible. He starts with the 7-seed, #17 Braxton Brown, who beat him handily during the year. An upset would be put him clearly in the conversation. If he loses that one, it will be a serious uphill climb.

    NCAA Prospectus: Unlikely

     

    Graham Rooks, 149, Indiana (Columbus East), senior

    Seed: 8 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 9, Rank: 13 (InterMat)

    Graham’s back, hoping to make another run and to get over the hump to All-American status at nationals. For this tournament, he’ll be aiming to at least hold serve and get one of the 9 automatic berths. He starts with the 9-seed, Roberts of Minnesota, before a potential matchup with the very tough 1-seed, Ridge Lovett of Nebraska.

    NCAA Prospectus: Almost certain

     

    Gabe Sollars, 197, Indiana, (Ev. Mater Dei), sophomore

    Seed: 10 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 7, Rank: 33 (InterMat)

    Gabe put himself on the map this year, basically pinning everyone in sight for the first half of the season. He still sits near the top of the national pin leaderboard. In terms of wins and losses, he’s been impressive, but this weight is another stacked one. He’s right on that cut line with Evan Bates and a couple other guys. His first match against 7-seed Poznanski of Rutgers feels like a must-win toward getting one of those 7 automatic berths, or to at least come very close so he can be in the at-large conversation. If he won he’d face the 2-seed, #4 Jaxon Smith of Maryland, in the quarterfinals.

    NCAA Prospectus: Fifty-fifty

     

    DJ Washington, 174, Indiana (Portage), redshirt junior

    Seed: 8 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 8, Rank: 25 (InterMat)

    DJ started the season as strong as ever and looking like an All-American candidate. Unfortunately, he hasn’t been himself lately, so he’ll be looking to right the ship off of the long pre-tournament layoff. He’s right on the cut line for the automatic bid, but he probably has a small bit of cord to play with because of his ranking numbers if he falls outside the Top 8 here. He’ll look to wrap up the bid here, though, starting with the 9-seed, #30 Sparks of Minnesota. He'd then have #1-ranked Starocci in an exciting potential quarterfinal matchup.

    NCAA Prospectus: Probable

     

    Nick Willham, 285, Indiana (Greenwood), senior

    Seed: 6 of 14, NCAA Allocations: 7, Rank: 36 (WrestleStat, starters only)

    Nick has stepped up admirably into the 285 slot at IU. He’s flirted with the edge of the rankings, but he’s just outside at the moment. It will be a war for those number 5 to 12 placements at this weight, where anyone involved could go to nationals or be biting their fingernails hoping for an at-large bid. Nick starts off with 11-seed Jessen of Northwester, who he just edged in a very tight one, 2-1, a couple of weeks ago. If he wins, he’ll be breathing slightly more easily and head to a likely matchup with Lucas Davison.

    NCAA Prospectus: Fifty-fifty


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  6. 1 hour ago, Observing said:

    Reading through, sounds like top level gains are achieved outside of the high school season. Maybe there should be a separate class for the financially disadvantaged. Clubs and travel tournaments must cost quite a bit. 

    You make a great point. I'd love to hear from parents and see what they spent on events, training, gear, etc over the years. I asked one parent of a top wrestler what do you think you've spent on training, events, etc and he laughed, then said "I don't even want to think about THAT!" 

  7. The first annual IndianaMat MessageBoard Hall of Fame class has been announced. Since this Hall of Fame is run by crooked media members we modified the rules right before the announcement. We are inducting three people posthumously and four via the vote-in process. Don’t be surprised if we change the rules again next year. Before we get into the inductees here are some of the general guidelines we have for this honor.

    1. No admins or staff
    2. Can only go in under ONE name

    3. Been an active member for 5 years

    4. Innovative and fun

    5. All in fun

     

    We start the inductees with three people who left an impact on the board and have unfortunately passed away. The first one is grecoref aka Tom Clark. He came to Indiana from his native Ohio and became a full blown Hoosier. On the mat he was a very accomplished referee making his way to the state finals and also to a little tournament called the Olympics. On the board he was known to provide valuable information, sarcasm, wit, and humor. He was a friend to all and a great personality to have on the board.

     

    Our second inductee is The Ancient Elder aka Dick Neal. Mr. Neal was likely the greatest Indiana wrestling historian ever. In the days of paper brackets and snail mail, he acquired everything he could possibly get his hands on to incorporate into his Indiana wrestling book. On the board he always answered the historical questions and reminded us of the best wrestlers and matches of the years gone by.

     

    The last one to be inducted posthumously is Perseverance aka Eric Allred. Allred has a great story of overcoming adversity and making his life right. He was a huge fan of his son Silas and very knowledgeable about the sport and the kids Silas wrestled with. His passion for the sport and supporting others is very much missed.

     

    The currently active members are characters to say the least and have had a fun and important impact on our lively messageboard. It is only fitting that MattyB and Team Garcia are inducted at the same time. Both came on the board at the same time to wreak havoc and promote #TheCounty and mainly the “young guns” of Avon. They have continued to this day due to having sons still involved in wrestling or in the case of Garcia, just loving to stir the pot.

     

    The steel factory in da region kept RegionRat1 off the board for a few years, but he made a comeback this season. While he has stayed relatively anonymous he always loves to promote da region in his very unique regioneese. Most outside of da region likely believe the way he types is how they speak there, and they aren’t wrong. 

     

    Last, but not least is the lightning rod they call General Heavy Handz. Of the current inductees he leads the league in most “vacations” from IndianaMat. Luckily for him, Mike talks Joe into letting him come back EVERY SINGLE TIME! He is never shy about promoting the SAC and his beloved Snider Panthers.


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  8. 1 hour ago, graham said:


    With all I said, I would prefer single-class AND wrestle-backs if it could be made to work.  So maybe “perfect” wasn’t the right word to use.  😉

    Why make our wrestling softer and have wrestle-backs? Should we give kids a second chance after they lose? Life's tough, when I lose $25k on poor investments, I don't get a redo and get that money back.

  9. 1 hour ago, piscis1956 said:

    Perseverance?  I didn’t see that name nominated.  So I assume that name was included by special acclaim by IndianaMat management, especially since I am seeing 6 names instead of just 5.

    As stated previously this hall of fame is ran by crooked media folks who don't care. All rules are as valuable as the napkin they were written on.

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