Y2CJ41 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Changes:Semi-State From Fort Wayne to East Chicago: Caston and Rochester From East Chicago to Fort Wayne: Wawasee and Tippecanoe Valley Sectional and Regional Changes New Castle Semi-State From Arsenal Tech/Pendleton Heights to Southport/Perry Meridian Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, North Central, and Mount Vernon(Fortville) From Southport/Perry Meridian to Arsenal Tech/Pendleton Heights Cardinal Ritter, Crispus Attucks, Providence Cristo Rey, and George Washington East Chicago Semi-State From Laporte/Crown Point to Plymouth/Penn North Judson From Winamac(Twin Lakes now)/Logansport to Plymouth/Penn Winamac From Crown Point/Crown Point to East Chicago Central/Hobart Lake Central From Winamac/Logansport to Crown Point/Crown Point North Newton and South Newton Evansville Semi-State From Mooresville/Mooresville to Jennings County/Jeffersonville Franklin Community From Bloomington North/Bloomington South to Jennings County/Jeffersonville Indian Creek From Jennings County/Jeffersonville to Bloomington North/Bloomington South Brown County Fort Wayne Semi-State From Carroll/Carroll to Peru/Peru Huntington North Sectional Changes From Southridge to Bloomington North Bedford North Lawrence From Jeffersonville to Jennings County Eastern (Pekin) and Salem From Plymouth to Mishawaka LaVille From Bloomington North to Southridge Paoli Sectionals 1. East Chicago Central (9): East Chicago Central, Gary West Side, Hammond Bishop Noll, Hammond Central, Hammond Morton, Lake Central, Merrillville, Munster, Whiting 2. Portage (8): Andrean, Calumet, Griffith, Highland, Hobart, Lake Station Edison, Portage, River Forest 3. Crown Point (10): Boone Grove, Crown Point, Hanover Central, Hebron, Illiana Christian, Kankakee Valley, Lowell, North Newton, South Newton, Wheeler 4. LaPorte (7): Chesterton, Glenn, Knox, LaPorte, Marquette Catholic, Michigan City, New Prairie, Valparaiso 5. Mishawaka (9): LaVille, Mishawaka, Mishawaka Marian, Penn, South Bend Adams, South Bend Clay, South Bend Riley, South Bend Saint Joseph, South Bend Washington 6. Plymouth (10): Bremen, Caston, Culver Academies, Culver Community, North Judson-San Pierre, Plymouth, Rochester Community, Triton, Warsaw Community, Winamac Community 7. Twin Lakes (12): Benton Central, Frontier, Logansport, North White, Pioneer, Rensselaer Central, Tri-County, Twin Lakes, West Central 8. Lafayette Jefferson (10): Attica, Carroll (Flora), Delphi Community, Faith Christian, Harrison (West Lafayette), Lafayette Central Catholic, Lafayette Jefferson, McCutcheon, Seeger, West Lafayette 9. Elkhart (8): Concord, Elkhart, Fairfield, Goshen, Jimtown, Northridge, NorthWood, Wawasee 10. West Noble (9): Angola, Central Noble, DeKalb, East Noble, Fremont, Lakeland, Prairie Heights, West Noble, Westview 11. Carroll (Fort Wayne) (9): Carroll (Fort Wayne), Churubusco, Columbia City, Eastside, Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger, Fort Wayne Concordia Lutheran, Fort Wayne Northrop, Garrett, Whitko 12. TBD (10): Fort Wayne Bishop Luers, Fort Wayne North Side, Fort Wayne Snider, Fort Wayne South Side, Fort Wayne Wayne, Heritage, Homestead, New Haven, Leo, Woodlan 13. Peru (10): Lewis Cass, Huntington North, Maconaquah, Manchester, North Miami, Northfield, Peru, Southwood, Tippecanoe Valley, Wabash 14. Oak Hill (11): Eastbrook, Eastern (Greentown), Kokomo, Madison-Grant, Marion, Mississinewa, Northwestern, Oak Hill, Taylor, Tri-Central, Western 15. Jay County (9): Adams Central, Bellmont, Blackford, Bluffton, Jay County, Norwell, South Adams, Southern Wells, Union City 16. Delta (10): Cowan, Daleville, Delta, Monroe Central, Muncie Central, Randolph Southern, Wapahani, Wes-Del, Winchester Community, Yorktown 17. Crawfordsville (10): Covington, Crawfordsville, Fountain Central, North Montgomery, North Vermillion, Parke Heritage, South Vermillion, Southmont, Western Boone, Zionsville 18. Frankfort (10): Carmel, Clinton Central, Clinton Prairie, Fishers, Frankfort, Hamilton Southeastern, Lebanon, Rossville, Sheridan, Westfield 19. Elwood (10): Alexandria Monroe, Anderson, Elwood Community, Frankton, Guerin Catholic, Hamilton Heights, Lapel, Noblesville, Pendleton Heights, Tipton 20. Indianapolis Arsenal Technical (10): Brebeuf Jesuit Preparatory, Indianapolis Arsenal Technical, Indiana School for the Deaf, Indiana School for the Blind, Indianapolis Bishop Chatard, Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter, Indianapolis Cathedral, Indianapolis Crispus Attucks, Indianapolis George Washington Community, Providence Cristo Rey, 21. Southport (10): Beech Grove, Christel House, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, Mt Vernon (Fortville), North Central(Indianapolis), Perry Meridian, Roncalli, Southport, Victory College Prep 22. Shelbyville (9): Franklin Central, Greenfield-Central, Indianapolis Lutheran, Indianapolis Scecina Memorial, New Palestine, Purdue Polytechnic, Shelbyville, Triton Central, Warren Central 23. Centerville(11): Blue River Valley, Cambridge City Lincoln, Centerville, Eastern Hancock, Hagerstown, Knightstown, New Castle, Northeastern, Richmond, Shenandoah, Tri 24. South Dearborn (11): Batesville, Connersville, East Central, Franklin County, Greensburg, Lawrenceburg, Milan, Oldenburg Academy, Rushville Consolidated, South Dearborn, Union County 25. Avon (12): Avon, Ben Davis, Brownsburg, Covenant Christian (Indianapolis), Danville Community, Greencastle, North Putnam, Pike, Plainfield, South Putnam, Speedway, Tri-West Hendricks 26. Mooresville (11): Cascade, Center Grove, Cloverdale, Decatur Central, Eminence, Greenwood Community, Martinsville, Monrovia, Mooresville, Whiteland Community 27. Bloomington North (12): Bedford North Lawrence, Bloomington North, Bloomington South, Brown County, Edgewood, Northview, Owen Valley, Sullivan, Terre Haute North Vigo, Terre Haute South Vigo, West Vigo 28. Southridge (10): Floyd Central, Forest Park, Jasper, Mitchell, New Albany, North Knox, Paoli, Pike Central, Southridge, Tell City 29. Jennings County (13): Columbus East, Columbus North, Eastern (Pekin), Franklin Community, Indian Creek, Jennings County, Madison Consolidated, Salem, Scottsburg, Seymour, Southwestern (Hanover), Switzerland County, West Washington 30. Jeffersonville (13): Borden, Charlestown, Clarksville, Corydon Central, Crawford County, Henryville, Jeffersonville, New Washington, North Harrison, Providence, Rock Creek Academy, Silver Creek 31. Castle (10): Boonville, Castle, Evansville Bosse, Evansville Harrison, Evansville Reitz Memorial, Heritage Hills, South Spencer, Tecumseh, Washington, Wood Memorial 32. Evansville Central (9): Evansville Central, Evansville F.J Reitz, Evansville Mater Dei, Evansville North, Gibson Southern, Mt Vernon, North Posey, Princeton Community, Vincennes Lincoln Regionals 1. Hobart: Feeder Sectionals: East Chicago Central, Portage. 2. Crown Point: Feeder Sectionals: Crown Point, LaPorte. 3. Penn: Feeder Sectionals: Mishawaka, Plymouth. 4. Logansport: Feeder Sectionals: Lafayette Jefferson, Twin Lakes. 5. Goshen: Feeder Sectionals: Elkhart, West Noble. 6. Carroll (Fort Wayne): Feeder Sectionals: Carroll (Fort Wayne), TBD(Former New Haven). 7. Peru: Feeder Sectionals: Peru, Oak Hill. 8. Jay County: Feeder Sectionals: Delta, Jay County. 9. North Montgomery: Feeder Sectionals: Crawfordsville, Frankfort. 10. Pendleton Heights: Feeder Sectionals: Elwood, Indianapolis Arsenal Technical. 11. Perry Meridian: Feeder Sectionals: Shelbyville, Southport. 12. Richmond: Feeder Sectionals: South Dearborn, Shenandoah. 13. Mooresville: Feeder Sectionals: Avon, Mooresville. 14. Bloomington South: Feeder Sectionals: Bloomington North, Southridge. 15. Jeffersonville: Feeder Sectionals: Jeffersonville, Jennings County. 16. Castle: Feeder Sectionals: Castle, Evansville Central Semi-States 1. East Chicago Central: Feeder Regionals: Crown Point, Hobart, Logansport, Penn. 2. New Haven (Allen County War Memorial Coliseum): Feeder Regionals: Carroll (Fort Wayne), Goshen, Jay County, Peru. 3. New Castle: Feeder Regionals: Frankfort, Pendleton Heights, Perry Meridian, Richmond. 4. Evansville F. J. Reitz (Ford Center): Feeder Regionals: Bloomington South, Castle, Jeffersonville, Mooresville. View full article Coplen187 and OICU182 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Of course they ship out one of Fort Wayne’s best teams HeadLocksWinChampionships, Coplen187, ZZ TOP and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodyHardcastle Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) I feel bad for the new teams that are joining the Ft. Wayne SS. Edited August 24 by BrodyHardcastle alee1022 and Coplen187 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Someday they will let people that know what they’re doing do the realignment…. BrodyHardcastle, rdrodd1, Coplen187 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron10483 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I saw the big “state series changes” and was anxiously opening it to see they’d implement wrestle backs. I should’ve known better. HWTDAD, ZZ TOP and Keepitlegal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZ TOP Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 49 minutes ago, TripleB said: Someday they will let people that know what they’re doing do the realignment…. No kidding they have always been a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formercollegekid Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Some quick thoughts/questions that come to mind right after reading this news..... Soooo just not gonna fix the Mooresville (semistate) problem? Just gonna keep two of the nation's best teams in the same regional. How does franklin community get to move clear down to Jeffersonville. Indian Creek goes to Bloomington. Center Grove, Greenwood, and Whiteland go to Mooresville. All from the same county. Some sectionals still have 8 or 9 teams in it while others have 12/13. 13+13= 26 (Jennings county/ Jeffersonville) 8+9= 17 ... that's a whole sectional worth of teams difference. Honestly I know it'll never be "perfect" just seems like a missed opportunity. The indy school shake-up is also interesting with Cathedral and Perry/Southport. Makes the "city tournament" matches a little more relevant. Poor Rochester I feel like they have moved back and forth several times. I know they are right on the border... but still. Ft Wayne Snyder lost some hammers, Rochester leaving as a team... we will get a new semistate team champ. Jimtown? Tippe valley and Rochester are really close. Speaking of small team HAMMER'S tell city goes clear up to Bloomington.... but franklin goes to Jeffersonville. Do high-school coaches sit on this board? Lawrenceburg should go to Evansville (maybe not) Brownsburg should be in Ft. Wayne semistate. (Maybe not) Gonna be fun year..... wonder how this changes the coaches association team state race. CoachJoyce, Coplen187, indypharmd and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Brobst Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 The Indy school shake up will create a very deep regional at Perry Perry Warren Greenfield Central New Pal (gonna be really good really soon) Mount Vernon Lawrence North North Central Roncalli Beech Grove LC Franklin Central plus other schools that have decent size too How would you like to be tiny Lutheran or Triton Central, or Purdue Polytechnic? even if Perry and Warren never return to the programs they were in 2003-2019, the sheer depth is going to make that a tough road for those teams just to make Semi-state Maybe (emphasis on the maybe) even deeper than Mooresville overall who has Brownsburg Center Grove Avon Ben Davis Plainfield Decatur Central Pike Mooresville Martinsville Greenwood Whiteland The edge at the top would certainly go to Mooresville but I’d put the 2nd-5th placers at this regional up against any in the state. No One Famous, Jen Bayliss, indypharmd and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 This is brilliant. The Tech Sectional has Cathedral and... Southport Sectional has Beech Grove, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, Mt. Vernon (Fortville), North Central(Indianapolis), Perry Meridian, Roncalli, and Southport. Cathedral will pretty much always have 14 sectional champs. Coach Brobst, formercollegekid, gsmith58 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Brobst Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Just now, matts said: This is brilliant. The Tech Sectional has Cathedral and... Southport Sectional has Beech Grove, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, Mt. Vernon (Fortville), North Central(Indianapolis), Perry Meridian, Roncalli, and Southport. Cathedral will pretty much always have 14 sectional champs. Chatard is gonna benefit from this as well a lot more kids to Semi -State for the Trojans who were already building piscis1956 and Nate Spangle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Spangle Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 59 minutes ago, matts said: This is brilliant. The Tech Sectional has Cathedral and... Southport Sectional has Beech Grove, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, Mt. Vernon (Fortville), North Central(Indianapolis), Perry Meridian, Roncalli, and Southport. Cathedral will pretty much always have 14 sectional champs. Cathedral and… throw a little respect on our guys come on. Coach Newton and Chapdaddy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Gard Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Anyone want to swap schedules that was going to EC? LOL...we have no one on our schedule that wrestles in the Plymouth Sectional. Coplen187 and formercollegekid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 11 minutes ago, Clint Gard said: Anyone want to swap schedules that was going to EC? LOL...we have no one on our schedule that wrestles in the Plymouth Sectional. Yeah not the best timing for those needing to get matches against new sectional opponents. Jen Bayliss, OICU182, Clint Gard and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randalllynch Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 New Albany and Floyd Central are still going to Southridge formercollegekid and Coach Newton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 11 hours ago, Clint Gard said: Anyone want to swap schedules that was going to EC? LOL...we have no one on our schedule that wrestles in the Plymouth Sectional. The Al Smith would be a great event for your guys to get tested against the best in the state. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Gard Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: The Al Smith would be a great event for your guys to get tested against the best in the state. I contacted Coach Sandefer about 11 days ago when I started hearing rumors. We are on the wait list and we'd have to get out of a contract we are locked in to...not as easy as people think it is. But yes, that is on our list. We still need to change many dates in our schedule to see sectional opponents. Edited August 25 by Clint Gard BrodyHardcastle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 22 minutes ago, Clint Gard said: I contacted Coach Sandefer about 11 days ago when I started hearing rumors. We are on the wait list and we'd have to get out of a contract we are locked in to...not as easy as people think it. But yes, that is on our list. We still need to change many dates in our schedule to see sectional opponents. Most AD's are very lenient with contracts especially when it comes to changes like this that are late. With the team you have had recently, I personally have been eager to see them at an event like the Al Smith. Tenser310, Coplen187, MUSKEEWRESTLER and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodyHardcastle Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Clint Gard said: I contacted Coach Sandefer about 11 days ago when I started hearing rumors. We are on the wait list and we'd have to get out of a contract we are locked in to...not as easy as people think it is. But yes, that is on our list. We still need to change many dates in our schedule to see sectional opponents. Would love to see the Zebras back at the Al Smith! You have some absolute hammers and all of them have motors on them! Edited August 25 by BrodyHardcastle Jen Bayliss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 The Southport sectional and Perry regional both get a lot stronger/deeper while the Arsenal Tech sectional and Pendleton regional get a lot weaker. Don’t understand those swaps at all. Chapdaddy, RAJR and gsmith58 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 3 hours ago, Clint Gard said: I contacted Coach Sandefer about 11 days ago when I started hearing rumors. We are on the wait list and we'd have to get out of a contract we are locked in to...not as easy as people think it is. But yes, that is on our list. We still need to change many dates in our schedule to see sectional opponents. Just curious why you want to see Sectional opponents during the season? I believe we only had two in ours and that was because both in our conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 37 minutes ago, JORVILLE said: Just curious why you want to see Sectional opponents during the season? I believe we only had two in ours and that was because both in our conference One reason for a team like Rochester that's wrestling a tough schedule now compared to that sectional is that they get unfairly underseeded when there are no head-to-heads. Then they have unnecessarily higher risks for kids getting upset at sectional or for placing lower and getting bad bracket slotting for regional. McWrastlePants, Clint Gard, IU89 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Gard Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, JORVILLE said: Just curious why you want to see Sectional opponents during the season? I believe we only had two in ours and that was because both in our conference #1 Criteria per Robert Faulkens - Seeds are based on how many wins you have against the kids in your bracket, if you don't wrestle any of them then your chances of getting a good seed are pretty low. Why would I not want to put my kids in the best position I can to move on in the state series? Now, I also understand we can't see everyone in our sectional and that's ok, but we need to see some of them. Some coaches don't do it that way and that's ok. Just not the way I think. IU89, Cricket21 and MUSKEEWRESTLER 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 8 minutes ago, Clint Gard said: #1 Criteria per Robert Faulkens - Seeds are based on how many wins you have against the kids in your bracket, if you don't wrestle any of them then your chances of getting a good seed are pretty low. Why would I not want to put my kids in the best position I can to move on in the state series? Now, I also understand we can't see everyone in our sectional and that's ok, but we need to see some of them. Some coaches don't do it that way and that's ok. Just not the way I think. Ya I agree with that some as last year year it really mattered to one of our kids from Sectional on but I’m not sure if mattered much to most the other kids. In my opinion with a strong team like yours don’t think I would want to wrestle the smaller programs and just take our chances. But ultimately you have to do what you feel sets them up the best . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Gard Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 28 minutes ago, JORVILLE said: Ya I agree with that some as last year year it really mattered to one of our kids from Sectional on but I’m not sure if mattered much to most the other kids. In my opinion with a strong team like yours don’t think I would want to wrestle the smaller programs and just take our chances. But ultimately you have to do what you feel sets them up the best . I don't disagree and if this would have been last year, I would not have made any changes to the schedule or very minor ones. This year we have some young kids and it could matter for them. We've got some studs but at the end of the day my job is to help kids win, get our team qualified for team state, get as many kids as possible as far as I can in the state series, and help our studs hit some big goals at the state tourney. And yes, I know my job is much more than that...those are just outcomes we set our sights on. JORVILLE and Coplen187 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 8/24/2023 at 5:18 PM, BrodyHardcastle said: I feel bad for the new teams that are joining the Ft. Wayne SS. I’m excited about the changes. What can I say I love green and gold or yellow. I get both. My former Capo and his Zebra’s will not be missed: no offense. Get them up outta here. Now all I have to contend with is Jay County and Delta. We lost some guys so I wasn’t very optimistic until this was announced. I’m not saying we are winning Semi-State: but with Rochester gone we should be a wrung higher on the ladder. BrodyHardcastle, Coplen187, Clint Gard and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now