Jayruss Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 That title may now belong to Delaney Ruhlman with 3 runner-ups losing to Mendez, Goin, and Goodwin under the lights. Honorable mention: Brandon James and Craig Macke. Unknown Caller, Cricket21 and MUSKEEWRESTLER 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortunatlyGreat Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Cheaney Schoeff 2,2,3,3 always enjoyed watching him wrestle. sslaymon, MUSKEEWRESTLER, Unknown Caller and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Jayruss said: That title may now belong to Delaney Ruhlman with 3 runner-ups losing to Mendez, Goin, and Goodwin under the lights. Honorable mention: Brandon James and Craig Macke. Vinny Corsaro should probably be in that conversation, along with Tristen Tonte. ILUV2PIN, Unknown Caller, Jayruss and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket21 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Mater Dei bias here: Craig Macke was the best wrestler to never win a title. #BringBackTheTights mdtodd, IU89, Paycheck141 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coplen187 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Damon Hummel, Rochester 94' Qualifier 189 Freshman year 2nd 189 Sophomore year 2nd Hwt Junior Year 3rd Hwt Senior Year (both year his only losses to Andy Schneider) Weighed 210, and they instituted the 215lb weight class the year after he graduated. He would have dominated that class twice. ZZ TOP, piscis1956 and oldfat119 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoonVegas Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, Coplen187 said: Damon Hummel, Rochester 94' Qualifier 189 Freshman year 2nd 189 Sophomore year 2nd Hwt Junior Year 3rd Hwt Senior Year (both year his only losses to Andy Schneider) Weighed 210, and they instituted the 215lb weight class the year after he graduated. He would have dominated that class twice. I wrestled at Southwood around the same time as Damon. He was a couple years ahead of me, but I remember watching him wrestle...the guy was crazy good. Super athletic. I agree with you...he would have rolled through a 215 weight class more than once. Coplen187, piscis1956 and ZZ TOP 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Allan Grammer - 2x D1 AA and D2 national champ / he even beat John Smith BoonVegas, boilergrappler, RAJR and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Perry Meridian bias here: Brandon James and Tristen Tonte James 4× All-State (3rd, 5th, 2nd, 3rd) FloNationals All-American (3rd, defeated Chad Red, only Indiana wrestler to beat him during high school career) NHSCA Senior All-American (4th) 3× Fargo All-American 172-8 record Tonte 3× State Runner-Up 2× NHSCA All-American (5th, 6th) 157-18 record Bschjoll, FCFIGHTER170, Cricket21 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) No Brenden Campbell mention yet? 2x runner-up, third place finish, and an injury default out of the tourney as a freshman while ranked first. Only losses in his career at 201-6 were to runner-up Paul Beck, 3x champion Kyle Ayersman, champion Mason Todd(2x), champion Paul Petrov, and sadly one more as a sophomore I can’t track down. Edited February 20, 2023 by Caleb Spires More context Jayruss, Disco, RAJR and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) NC Trojans Alone B. Campbell-3, 2,2 Fargo AA #8 all time Indiana wins@201-6 C.Mullins-4x placer- 5, 3,2,8 20+ ISWA state titles, Super 32 AA #16 all time wins@191-11 AJ black-2x Runner up didn't even get wrestle senior year Matt Jagger's-state runner up 4xSQ/3xplacer 7,5,2, #5 all time@210-12 Terrell Coatie Perry/NC-didn't start wrestling until High School, and became one of the most feared athletic specimens I've ever seen, went on to be a new Castle semi-state Champion pinning two time state champ Danny Williams, and then beating the state runner up Conkling and the same season, placing at the state finals himself and hardly three years of training. Mac Taylor -4x medalist 6,5,3,3, held national wins record And now #4 in Indiana @221-8 Then A few my favs from other schools.. Aaron Sessa-2x runner up and who Tylin reminds me of doing stuff you can't teach, and fireworks every time he was on the mat. Then here's few my other favs. Andy Uhl, Nick Hobbs, Logan Boe, RayRay Rioux, Timmy Bradley Edited February 23, 2023 by FCFIGHTER170 formercollegekid, RAJR, Coplen187 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 33 minutes ago, Caleb Spires said: No Brenden Campbell mention yet? 2x runner-up, third place finish, and an injury default out of the tourney as a freshman while ranked first. Only losses in his career at 201-6 were to runner-up Paul Beck, 3x champion Kyle Ayersman, champion Mason Todd(2x), champion Paul Petrov, and sadly one more as a sophomnore I can’t track down. He lost it the conference Finals when he was very sick but no excuse he was beaten by Huntington Norths Nick/logan Randle at the NCC championships keeping BC from being a four-time conference champion! BC had beaten him pretty handily earlier in the season for losing to him at conference. What's even crazier is that was Randall's only loss going into State at 41-1 and he would lose a heartbreaker 4-3 to Mason Todd in the first round... That 112 bracket is one of the most loaded brackets I've ever seen in the state finals history... What's even more wild is semi state that year Campbell won, the top four were Campbell, Todd, McKinley and Harvey. That is three state champs and a two-time runner-up all in the same semi state LOL.. Campbell lost to the state champ back 2-0, but that bracket had so many legendary guys that I'm going to have to post it. JayinSTL, RAJR, MUSKEEWRESTLER and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Cricket21 said: Mater Dei bias here: Craig Macke was the best wrestler to never win a title. #BringBackTheTights Craig was the man, and a good dude to boot. Cricket21, IU89 and boilergrappler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyAbbott Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Jeff Pease. Look him up! RAJR, Jayruss, littlevito and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyGonzo Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Rickie Elkins - Portage Shannon Stout - Delta Randy Baker - Bellmont All of these guys beat multiple State Champs, some in the same season... RAJR, Coplen187 and Jayruss 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdue02 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Statistically speaking is Schoeff the “best” to never win it? His finishes are 2, 2, 3, and 3. Does any other non-champ have a finish total of less than 10? (2+2+3+3) I know Corsaro was 2nd three times but his finish total adds up to 12 (6+2+2+2) because of his 6th place finish his freshman year. formercollegekid and Unknown Caller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Caller Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Connor Knapp- SQ, 4th, 3rd, and 4th. 164-13. Had Boston, Micic, Red, and Nick Lee in his weight every year. Wrestles only 5 consolation matches in his entire career. Jayruss and Evan Smiley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyGonzo Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 15 hours ago, FCFIGHTER170 said: He lost it the conference Finals when he was very sick but no excuse he was beaten by Huntington Norths Nick/logan Randle at the NCC championships keeping BC from being a four-time conference champion! BC had beaten him pretty handily earlier in the season for losing to him at conference. What's even crazier is that was Randall's only loss going into State at 41-1 and he would lose a heartbreaker 4-3 to Mason Todd in the first round... That 112 bracket is one of the most loaded brackets I've ever seen in the state finals history... What's even more wild is semi state that year Campbell won, the top four were Campbell, Todd, McKinley and Harvey. That is three state champs and a two-time runner-up all in the same semi state LOL.. Campbell lost to the state champ back 2-0, but that bracket had so many legendary guys that I'm going to have to post it. Only due to my relative being involved... Randle's only loss that season was to Steven Gonzales at the first dual tournament of the season, I believe to score was 3-1 or something close to that. Randle avenged it at Semi-State with a last second TD. The regular season of this weight class was insanely back-and-forth and went something like an old Freestyle round-robin tourney: Gonzales beat Randle Randle beat Campbell Todd beat Gonzales Campbell beat Todd I'd hate to have been the rankings guy that year FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 20 hours ago, regionrat1 said: Allan Grammer - 2x D1 AA and D2 national champ / he even beat John Smith SEASONSCHOOLTOURNAMENTWEIGHTPLACE 1986 SIU-Edwardsville Division II 126 1 1986 SIU-Edwardsville Division I 126 5 1985 SIU-Edwardsville Division I 134 3 1985 SIU-Edwardsville Division II 134 1 1984 SIU-Edwardsville Division II 134 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 World placer Alex Dolly. Indiana 5, 3, 2 2001 lost to eventual 2 by 1 point. 2002 lost to eventual champ by 1 point. 2003 match of the century. Rugger44, mdtodd, Jayruss and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstark Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Jeff Pease, Muncie Southside-1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I loved Alex Dolly, but what does "world placer" mean? Everyone is assigned a place. I think he did get 9th or 10th once for Ireland when he won two matches in the 32-man bracket. Maybe that's what you mean. Penn04 and Coplen187 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Logically... it should go to whoever was a 4 time runner up. If no one, then a three time runner up. So... Delaney Ruhlman and Tristan Tonte are both three time runner ups. They are the only wrestlers to my knowledge who have made the finals three times without winning. M109R, Jayruss and Cricket21 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, maligned said: I loved Alex Dolly, but what does "world placer" mean? Everyone is assigned a place. I think he did get 9th or 10th once for Ireland when he won two matches in the 32-man bracket. Maybe that's what you mean. That’s precisely what I meant. Regardless of the process and being “assigned” a place, never winning state and being a participant at the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS seems pretty incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJR Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, navy80 said: Logically... it should go to whoever was a 4 time runner up. If no one, then a three time runner up. So... Delaney Ruhlman and Tristan Tonte are both three time runner ups. They are the only wrestlers to my knowledge who have made the finals three times without winning. I get what you are saying, but with the format of the state finals, sometimes the second best wrestler loses before the finals. Draw can impact the strength of the path so to speak. Sometimes the "finals" happen in the semis. I don't think it's as clear cut as you would initially think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, navy80 said: Logically... it should go to whoever was a 4 time runner up. If no one, then a three time runner up. So... Delaney Ruhlman and Tristan Tonte are both three time runner ups. They are the only wrestlers to my knowledge who have made the finals three times without winning. Agreed , but wasn't Vinny C a 3 time runner up as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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