bbulldog152 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just curious, and maybe I missed something, but is there a reason sectional seeding meetings aren't until Wednesday this year? In the past its always been on the Monday before I just didn't know the reasoning if there is one. Coplen187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julio Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I don't understand it either. Lineup needs to be in track by tonight, but meeting not until Wednesday. Makes no sense, but then again it is the IHSAA. HeadLocksWinChampionships 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Mikesell Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) In some sectionals, teams compete this Monday or Tuesday. In the past those matches would've made a difference in seeding. Edited January 24, 2023 by Coach Mikesell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 I thought all meets were complete Saturday and weigh-ins were to be completed today. tangarrray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 OICU182, jwilly and nkraus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 IHSAA Tryn to control Indianamat from having brackets avail before them!!!! Still don’t matter because Indianamat will beat em to the punch everytime! Lawdiggity, Bigtoe19, McWrastlePants and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The decision was either made after the Winter Bulletin was released or someone forgot to update it from last year because it still indicates Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog89 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 What I heard from our coach this past Saturday at our Conference meet, it was Wednesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julio Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Weight Management Plan ends Monday, not Wednesday. Look at your myIHSAA profile. tangarrray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pug Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 hours ago, MattM said: The decision was either made after the Winter Bulletin was released or someone forgot to update it from last year because it still indicates Monday. Page 78 of the Winter Bulletin X Pairings and Seeding A. Sectional pairings and seeding will be made at 7:00 p.m. at the center school on the Wednesday preceding the sectional tournament. OICU182 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I am just speculating, but since the weight management program ends on Monday, Wednesday was the best possible day to have the meeting. If a team decided to have a meet on Monday, that would give us a whole day, Tuesday, to update records and head to head. Last year was the first year that the weight management program was extended to Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, XCard said: I am just speculating, but since the weight management program ends on Monday, Wednesday was the best possible day to have the meeting. If a team decided to have a meet on Monday, that would give us a whole day, Tuesday, to update records and head to head. Last year was the first year that the weight management program was extended to Monday. I'm pretty sure it had to be submitted today but the last weigh-in had to take place before today. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, bbulldog152 said: I'm pretty sure it had to be submitted today but the last weigh-in had to take place before today. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Submitted today, yes. Look at each individual's weekly weight program, this week is #12 and you can enter a weight for today. The way I interpreted is an extra day for a qualifying green weigh-in. I may be wrong, and hope to be corrected if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Pug said: Page 78 of the Winter Bulletin X Pairings and Seeding A. Sectional pairings and seeding will be made at 7:00 p.m. at the center school on the Wednesday preceding the sectional tournament. That was updated very recently. Likely due to the questioning of the change. If you internet search and find a previous version of the 22-23 Bulletin posted via the IHSAA website the meeting date show Monday. 10/26 Edition Pairings and Seeding A. Sectional pairings and seeding will be made at 7:00 p.m. at the center school on the Monday preceding the sectional tournament. Point being that Wednesday was not the originally posted plan by the IHSAA, and it was not the norm from past year. Thus why some people were unclear/uncertain. I’m sure the IHSAA sent something with the Sectional information to ADs and coaches. As usually, with any notable change in the process, it is always best to communicate as early as possible and make sure the change is noticeable. Edited January 24, 2023 by MattM OICU182 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH-Coach Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Not that it really matters, but NH sectional received permission to move their meeting up. We'll have it tonight at 7:30. Bulldog89 and MUSKEEWRESTLER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 hours ago, XCard said: Submitted today, yes. Look at each individual's weekly weight program, this week is #12 and you can enter a weight for today. The way I interpreted is an extra day for a qualifying green weigh-in. I may be wrong, and hope to be corrected if so. That may have changed from last year then because I know last year the weigh-in had to take place before the Monday it was due. I know because the situation came up last year and we were told by the IHSAA that all weigh-ins had to take place before the Monday they had to be submitted. XCard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Gard Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I'm more interested in hearing about the Seeding Call last night and what criteria all sectionals are supposed to follow. OICU182 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Young Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Clint Gard said: I'm more interested in hearing about the Seeding Call last night and what criteria all sectionals are supposed to follow. Just that head-to-head doesn't really mean head to head...for our sectional anyway. nkraus and OICU182 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Gard Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, Trev Young said: Just that head-to-head doesn't really mean head to head...for our sectional anyway. That's what I've heard...how does anyone that reads what head to head means think it means anything other than head to head. I've said it multiple times. I've been a part of 27 conference and 27 sectional seeding meetings and it has NEVER meant what the guy on the call last night said it meant...EVER! I'm dumbfounded. Trev Young 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, Clint Gard said: That's what I've heard...how does anyone that reads what head to head means think it means anything other than head to head. I've said it multiple times. I've been a part of 27 conference and 27 sectional seeding meetings and it has NEVER meant what the guy on the call last night said it meant...EVER! I'm dumbfounded. Care to elaborate??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Young Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, AJ said: Care to elaborate??? wrestler A is 6-1 against the sectional field at the weight class. wrestler B is 3-0 against the field with a win over wrestler A. Wrestler A is the one seed for having most wins against the sectional field. "wrestler with the most WINS against opponents in the bracket gets the one seed. It does not matter if Wrester A lost to wrestler B in the bracket as long as wrestler A has the most wins in the bracket. Wrestler A gets the seed." MUSKEEWRESTLER, BrodyHardcastle, Justin Ratliff and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodyHardcastle Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Trev Young said: wrestler A is 6-1 against the sectional field at the weight class. wrestler B is 3-0 against the field with a win over wrestler A. Wrestler A is the one seed for having most wins against the sectional field. "wrestler with the most WINS against opponents in the bracket gets the one seed. It does not matter if Wrester A lost to wrestler B in the bracket as long as wrestler A has the most wins in the bracket. Wrestler A gets the seed." LOL I have never heard head to head explained like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Trev Young said: wrestler A is 6-1 against the sectional field at the weight class. wrestler B is 3-0 against the field with a win over wrestler A. Wrestler A is the one seed for having most wins against the sectional field. "wrestler with the most WINS against opponents in the bracket gets the one seed. It does not matter if Wrester A lost to wrestler B in the bracket as long as wrestler A has the most wins in the bracket. Wrestler A gets the seed." I remember about 5 years ago that idea was a possible suggestion, wins agains the field that is. It was going to be after commons but before record on the criteria list, but it was never brought up again after that. Clint Gard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Young Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, bigballerb said: LOL I have never heard head to head explained like that. Same. So, you guys (OH) wrestle Miss in three duals, Eastbrook in 2 and MG in 2. Thats 7 wins against the field for a lot of your guys. In most cases it won't matter if my guy beat yours at that western invite because we won't have that many "wins against the bracket". BrodyHardcastle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Trev Young said: wrestler A is 6-1 against the sectional field at the weight class. wrestler B is 3-0 against the field with a win over wrestler A. Wrestler A is the one seed for having most wins against the sectional field. "wrestler with the most WINS against opponents in the bracket gets the one seed. It does not matter if Wrester A lost to wrestler B in the bracket as long as wrestler A has the most wins in the bracket. Wrestler A gets the seed." That's insane. I have a spreadsheet of what I think seeds will be for the Jay County sectional, and this would change a ton of my brackets, when really it should be pretty cut and dry. Clint Gard, MUSKEEWRESTLER and Trev Young 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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