TysonNisley Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Thought I'd be fun to do an East Chicago P4P ranking. I worked on this with @igotcaught to eliminate some the bias that inevitably comes when making these types of rankings. Feel free to debate! Top 10: 1: Sam Goin- 5th at 106 2020, 4th at 126 2021, 1st at 152 2022, IHPO 2nd 2019, IHPO 1st 2021, IHPO 1st 2022, #7 in the nation (per MatScouts) 2: Logan Frazier- 3rd at 113 2020, 2nd at 120 2021, 1st at 126 2022, #17 in the nation (per FloWrestling), #19 in the nation (per MatScouts), IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 3: Ashton Jackson- 1st at 106 2021, 1st at 113 2022 4: Orlando Cruz- Qualifier at 145 2020, 5th at 160 2021, 2nd at 182 2022, IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 5: Cole Solomey- 7th at 120 2020, 6th at 132 2021, 2nd at 138 2022, IHPO 1st 2022 6: Aidan Torres- 6th at 126 2020, 8th at 126 2021, 3rd at 145 2022 7: Anthony Bahl- 5th at 113 2021, 2nd at 132 2022 8: Cody Goodwin- 4th at 160 2022 9: Landon Hawkins- IHPO 3rd 2021, IHPO 3rd 2022 10: Gavin Jendreas- 2nd at 106 2022 HM: Will Clark- 5th at 195 2022, Fargo AA 2021 Paul Clark- 4th at 220 2022 Hayden DeMarco- 6th at 113 2021, 7th at 120 2022 AJ Steenbeke- Qualifier at 160 2020, Qualifier at 160 2021, Qualifier at 160 2022\ Anthony Rinehart- 7th at 152 2022, IHPO 3rd 2022 Zar Walker- 6th at 132 2022 Paycheck141, igotcaught, Misty Kendrex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Top 10: 1: Sam Goin- 5th at 106 2020, 4th at 126 2021, 1st at 152 2022, IHPO 2nd 2019, IHPO 1st 2021, IHPO 1st 2022, #7 in the nation (per MatScouts) 2: Logan Frazier- 3rd at 113 2020, 2nd at 120 2021, 1st at 126 2022, #17 in the nation (per FloWrestling), #19 in the nation (per MatScouts), IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 3: Ashton Jackson- 1st at 106 2021, 1st at 113 2022 4: Orlando Cruz- Qualifier at 145 2020, 5th at 160 2021, 2nd at 182 2022, IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 5: Cole Solomey- 7th at 120 2020, 6th at 132 2021, 2nd at 138 2022, IHPO 1st 2022 6: Aidan Torres- 6th at 126 2020, 8th at 126 2021, 3rd at 145 2022 7: Anthony Rinehart- 7th at 152 2022, IHPO 3rd 2022 8: Will Clark- 5th at 195 2022, Fargo AA 2021 9: Gavin Jendreas- 2nd at 106 2022 10: Cody Goodwin- 4th at 160 2022 MUSKEEWRESTLER and Misty Kendrex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loggcabin11 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Top 10: 1: Sam Goin- 5th at 106 2020, 4th at 126 2021, 1st at 152 2022, IHPO 2nd 2019, IHPO 1st 2021, IHPO 1st 2022, #7 in the nation (per MatScouts) 2: Logan Frazier- 3rd at 113 2020, 2nd at 120 2021, 1st at 126 2022, #17 in the nation (per FloWrestling), #19 in the nation (per MatScouts), IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 3: Ashton Jackson- 1st at 106 2021, 1st at 113 2022 4: Orlando Cruz- Qualifier at 145 2020, 5th at 160 2021, 2nd at 182 2022, IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 5: Aidan Torres- 6th at 126 2020, 8th at 126 2021, 3rd at 145 2022 6: Cole Solomey- 7th at 120 2020, 6th at 132 2021, 2nd at 138 2022, IHPO 1st 2022 7: Hayden DeMarco- 6th at 113 2021, 7th at 120 2022 8: Gavin Jendreas- 2nd at 106 2022 9: Will Clark- 5th at 195 2022, Fargo AA 2021 10: Cody Goodwin- 4th at 160 2022 Misty Kendrex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Top 10: 1:Logan Frazier- 3rd at 113 2020, 2nd at 120 2021, 1st at 126 2022, #17 in the nation (per FloWrestling), #19 in the nation (per MatScouts), IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 2: Sam Goin- 5th at 106 2020, 4th at 126 2021, 1st at 152 2022, IHPO 2nd 2019, IHPO 1st 2021, IHPO 1st 2022, #7 in the nation (per MatScouts) 3: Ashton Jackson- 1st at 106 2021, 1st at 113 2022 4: Orlando Cruz- Qualifier at 145 2020, 5th at 160 2021, 2nd at 182 2022, IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 5: Aidan Torres- 6th at 126 2020, 8th at 126 2021, 3rd at 145 2022 6: Cole Solomey- 7th at 120 2020, 6th at 132 2021, 2nd at 138 2022, IHPO 1st 2022 7: Will Clark- 5th at 195 2022, Fargo AA 2021 8: Gavin Jendreas- 2nd at 106 2022 9: Cody Goodwin- 4th at 160 2022 10: Hayden DeMarco- 6th at 113 2021, 7th at 120 2022 Reason I have Logan at #1 is because I always think back to his matches with Lemley. If Illinois doesn't shutdown, Logan is a 2x State champ already. Also Sergio is now #1 in the nation. Logan was in every match with him. I put Will Clark in there because the kid is a beast. Fargo AA is tough! Honestly the kid might deserve to go higher on the list. If he wasn't in football he might have won IHPO...8/9/10 were hard to decide, I dropped DeMarco to 10 because Goodwin and Jendreas had better state performances last year. Jendreas placed higher than Goodwin so he gets the 8 spot. Aidan Torres goes above Solomey because of head to head. MUSKEEWRESTLER and Misty Kendrex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TysonNisley Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, brickfor6 said: Top 10: 1:Logan Frazier- 3rd at 113 2020, 2nd at 120 2021, 1st at 126 2022, #17 in the nation (per FloWrestling), #19 in the nation (per MatScouts), IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 2: Sam Goin- 5th at 106 2020, 4th at 126 2021, 1st at 152 2022, IHPO 2nd 2019, IHPO 1st 2021, IHPO 1st 2022, #7 in the nation (per MatScouts) 3: Ashton Jackson- 1st at 106 2021, 1st at 113 2022 4: Orlando Cruz- Qualifier at 145 2020, 5th at 160 2021, 2nd at 182 2022, IHPO 4th 2021, IHPO 1st 2022 5: Aidan Torres- 6th at 126 2020, 8th at 126 2021, 3rd at 145 2022 6: Cole Solomey- 7th at 120 2020, 6th at 132 2021, 2nd at 138 2022, IHPO 1st 2022 7: Will Clark- 5th at 195 2022, Fargo AA 2021 8: Gavin Jendreas- 2nd at 106 2022 9: Cody Goodwin- 4th at 160 2022 10: Hayden DeMarco- 6th at 113 2021, 7th at 120 2022 Reason I have Logan at #1 is because I always think back to his matches with Lemley. If Illinois doesn't shutdown, Logan is a 2x State champ already. Also Sergio is now #1 in the nation. Logan was in every match with him. I put Will Clark in there because the kid is a beast. Fargo AA is tough! Honestly the kid might deserve to go higher on the list. If he wasn't in football he might have won IHPO...8/9/10 were hard to decide, I dropped DeMarco to 10 because Goodwin and Jendreas had better state performances last year. Jendreas placed higher than Goodwin so he gets the 8 spot. Aidan Torres goes above Solomey because of head to head. I definitely think there's an argument for Frazier over Goin, especially seeing how his state runner-up finish was a 3-2 loss to Sergio Lemley. However, I put a little more weight in terms of these rankings on their more recent head-to-head, where Frazier lost 10-2. Additionally, Goin has not lost to an Indiana wrestler since his sophomore year at state, while Frazier suffered a loss at IHPO 2021 to Elijah Anthony, and Goin had a 9-5 match with the current #4 in the country at this year's Fargo, so we have a 10-2 loss to the #1 versus a 9-5 loss to the #4. It's still a tough pick, but I personally think Goin earns the top spot here. Will Clark is definitely a stud and a Fargo All-American placement is really impressive, but with only one 5th place to his name in the state series, it's hard for me to put him over Jendreas. I think there's an argument for Clark to be above Goodwin, but it's tricky for me to place someone that took J Conway into OT in the Honorable Mentions. Lastly, I did a little bit of looking around and could not find the head-to-head of Torres and Solomey. What tournament was this at? Edited September 16, 2022 by TysonNisley Misty Kendrex and MUSKEEWRESTLER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 11/28/2020 vs. Chesterton 132 Varsity - Aidan Torres (Chesterton) over Cole Solomey (Kankakee Valley) (Dec 3-1) 02/13/2021 IHSAA Semi-State @ 1 132 Semifinals - Aidan Torres (Chesterton) over Cole Solomey (Kankakee Valley) (Dec 3-1) jcs12402 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TysonNisley Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, brickfor6 said: 11/28/2020 vs. Chesterton 132 Varsity - Aidan Torres (Chesterton) over Cole Solomey (Kankakee Valley) (Dec 3-1) 02/13/2021 IHSAA Semi-State @ 1 132 Semifinals - Aidan Torres (Chesterton) over Cole Solomey (Kankakee Valley) (Dec 3-1) Hmm. We didn't see this when making the list. The result is definitely a little dated, but I might have been willing to put Torres over Solomey had I seen this result. I do still feel like Solomey's overall state placements have been better though, and with a 10-0 tech fall over Anthony Bahl (who in the same tournament won a criteria match over Solomey) it's still pretty tricky to place them. I think that Bahl, Solomey, and Torres could all be switched around in someway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotcaught Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Making this with @TysonNisley was not easy. But I just don’t see how the 3 responses all decided to take Bahl completely out of the Top 10. He has won head to head vs Ashton Jackson, Cole Solomey, and somewhere around 3 or 4-1 against demarco. The way he dominated his way to the finals last season at 132 (tech, pin, major) at one of the most loaded weight class last year just to fall short against Zeke Seltzer (who he took down!). I can confidently say Bahl would be a 3x placer if he could of cracked the lineup freshman year but CP had Goin at 106, Frazier at 113, Bettich at 120, Roberson at 126, Mendez at 132, etc. Misty Kendrex, MUSKEEWRESTLER, brickfor6 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) On 9/16/2022 at 5:33 PM, igotcaught said: Making this with @TysonNisley was not easy. But I just don’t see how the 3 responses all decided to take Bahl completely out of the Top 10. He has won head to head vs Ashton Jackson, Cole Solomey, and somewhere around 3 or 4-1 against demarco. The way he dominated his way to the finals last season at 132 (tech, pin, major) at one of the most loaded weight class last year just to fall short against Zeke Seltzer (who he took down!). I can confidently say Bahl would be a 3x placer if he could of cracked the lineup freshman year but CP had Goin at 106, Frazier at 113, Bettich at 120, Roberson at 126, Mendez at 132, etc. Clinton Shepard is not on the list either, He just beat Jendreas 5-1 EDIT: Just realized that he is only in 8th Grade nevermind! Edited September 19, 2022 by brickfor6 Misty Kendrex and jshep86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty11 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 What does cp line up look like? Somebody really good like a state qualifier or placer may be a back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotcaught Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 12 hours ago, brickfor6 said: Clinton Shepard is not on the list either, He just beat Jendreas 5-1 EDIT: Just realized that he is only in 8th Grade nevermind! Shepard is a stud. Excited to see how he he does at Super 32. Ch1StyleZ84, jshep86, Misty Kendrex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, igotcaught said: Shepard is a stud. Excited to see how he he does at Super 32. He took 3rd last year and will be a favorite to be in the finals this year. Ch1StyleZ84, MUSKEEWRESTLER, jshep86 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealRosey Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 This team is gonna be just plain Nasty this year-projected weight class this year 2 returning state champs Frazier-126/132 Goin-160/170 3 returning state runner ups Jendreas-113/120 Bahl-138/145 Cruz-182/195 2 returning 4th Goodwin-160/170 Clark-285 1 returning 5th Clark-220 1 returning 7th Rhineheart-152/160 Other returning notables Kaptur N-120ish? Cruz-138ish? Freshman impact- 106-not sure of his name, but heard he is pretty good 132ish-Landon Hawkins Looking forward to see how this line up shakes out.... MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionQuest87 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Wow. CP has nine returning state placers (5 of which wrestled under the lights) and then add Hawkins (my guess is he's top 2 at any weight) and you have 10 state placers. Can not wait to see what happens at State this year. They will set a new scoring record. Paycheck141 and MUSKEEWRESTLER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, RealRosey said: This team is gonna be just plain Nasty this year-projected weight class this year 2 returning state champs Frazier-126/132 Goin-160/170 3 returning state runner ups Jendreas-113/120 Bahl-138/145 Cruz-182/195 2 returning 4th Goodwin-160/170 Clark-285 1 returning 5th Clark-220 1 returning 7th Rhineheart-152/160 Other returning notables Kaptur N-120ish? Cruz-138ish? Freshman impact- 106-not sure of his name, but heard he is pretty good 132ish-Landon Hawkins Looking forward to see how this line up shakes out.... 138 should have a good battle at 138 with Cruz, Griffin Van Tichelt, and Christian Washington. 120 multiple kids fighting for spot. 106 is not a lock as Rianne Murphy there now also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, RealRosey said: This team is gonna be just plain Nasty this year-projected weight class this year 2 returning state champs Frazier-126/132 Goin-160/170 3 returning state runner ups Jendreas-113/120 Bahl-138/145 Cruz-182/195 2 returning 4th Goodwin-160/170 Clark-285 1 returning 5th Clark-220 1 returning 7th Rhineheart-152/160 Other returning notables Kaptur N-120ish? Cruz-138ish? Freshman impact- 106-not sure of his name, but heard he is pretty good 132ish-Landon Hawkins Looking forward to see how this line up shakes out.... Line up looks pretty full. 106: Up for grabs 113: Jendreas 120 Up for grabs 126: Frazier 132: Hawkins 138: Up for grabs 145: Bahl 152: Rinehart 160: Goin 170: Goodwin 182: Cruz 195: Up for grabs 220: Clark, W 285: Clark, P MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TysonNisley Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Barn Burner said: Line up looks pretty full. 106: Up for grabs 113: Jendreas 120 Up for grabs 126: Frazier 132: Hawkins 138: Up for grabs 145: Bahl 152: Rinehart 160: Goin 170: Goodwin 182: Cruz 195: Up for grabs 220: Clark, W 285: Clark, P My guesses for your "up for grabs" weight classes are: 106: Rianne Murphy 120: Kaptur Nowaczyk 138: Evan Cruz 195: Anthony White Barn Burner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Either way going to be a great line up and plenty of good practice partners which is the most important part of high school season in my opinion. You got to keep improving especially during the grid of High School season. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotcaught Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 39 minutes ago, Barn Burner said: Line up looks pretty full. 106: Up for grabs 113: Jendreas 120 Up for grabs 126: Frazier 132: Hawkins 138: Up for grabs 145: Bahl 152: Rinehart 160: Goin 170: Goodwin 182: Cruz 195: Up for grabs 220: Clark, W 285: Clark, P 145-182 is a scary “death row” All 5 can be under the lights, and even win it. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennwrestling Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/20/2022 at 11:11 AM, Barn Burner said: Line up looks pretty full. 106: Up for grabs 113: Jendreas 120 Up for grabs 126: Frazier 132: Hawkins 138: Up for grabs 145: Bahl 152: Rinehart 160: Goin 170: Goodwin 182: Cruz 195: Up for grabs 220: Clark, W 285: Clark, P Looks like there gonna be studs again this year, but im exited for the semi state this year to see our kingsmen try to chase down the bulldogs. We bring a few studs to the table though. Jendreas vs Bennett, Harper vs Frazier, Denton vs Hawkins, Steenbeke vs Goin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 9/27/2022 at 7:46 AM, Pennwrestling said: Looks like there gonna be studs again this year, but im exited for the semi state this year to see our kingsmen try to chase down the bulldogs. We bring a few studs to the table though. Jendreas vs Bennett, Harper vs Frazier, Denton vs Hawkins, Steenbeke vs Goin Yes, EC Semi State should be pretty good this year. We will see how weight classes shake out as season begins. Misty Kendrex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julio Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 What grade is little Sessa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 7 hours ago, julio said: What grade is little Sessa? Freshman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwise Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 9/27/2022 at 8:46 AM, Pennwrestling said: Looks like there gonna be studs again this year, but im exited for the semi state this year to see our kingsmen try to chase down the bulldogs. We bring a few studs to the table though. Jendreas vs Bennett, Harper vs Frazier, Denton vs Hawkins, Steenbeke vs Goin Those matches won't even be close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotcaught Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) On 10/28/2022 at 11:48 PM, julio said: What grade is little Sessa? Edited November 2, 2022 by igotcaught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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