blueandgold Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 How were Griffith and New Castle wrestling 60+ matches in one season? MUSKEEWRESTLER and DrunkJoeNamath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Rules were different at that time. You could get in more matches without going over your points. Some teams used it to max out their schedule with as many multi-duals as possible. DrunkJoeNamath, FCFIGHTER170, MUSKEEWRESTLER and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Morgan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 10 dual weekends plus the extra 7 matches from the team state series DrunkJoeNamath, MUSKEEWRESTLER, blueandgold and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, blueandgold said: How were Griffith and New Castle wrestling 60+ matches in one season? Diff rules bk then .Wrestling 5 matches every Saturday, we Attended few 2 day Tourneys that you get 7-10 matches a weekend and Peck loved to get us as many matches as possible and wanted us seasoned for tourney time...Back then we also had good numbers every year with HOFer Sparky Griffiths pipeline, so that even our JV was tough and we would let them get 10-15 varsity matches in place of us Decent guys. Matt Jaggers (210-12) or Mac Taylor(Mac held HS national Win record at one time 221-8, between him and Jaggers that have 8 state appeances 7 medals between them) Guys like them made deep runs every year and had too wrestle the matches they did get, any mat time was crucial cuz they were being ducked a lot.. I seen so many teams FF to Jaggers not only cuz he was nearly automatic bonus points, it was his ruthless style being so Relentless and mean, that guys wouldn't want to get their head snapped down off the mat again and teched like he done to them inthe past.. So They had to get the matches they could, and it got so bad jaggers senior year he went up from 125 to 135 to get tested in the form of multiple time placer/qualifier Brandon Gonzales of Delta who took 6th at 35 that same season.. Jaggers only beat Gonzo by a point , which is exactly how every match they had growing up ended !@NavyGonzo it's still the man though I obviously wasn't on that level, most matches I got in a year was 47 my senior year and around 150 total, which is still plenty..I didn't make deep runs either being a few times over a ticket round choke artist so I didn't get to the 50s like many of my peers at New castle did. Jaggers vs Escobedo actually is the most combined wins going into the finals with 56-0 Jaggers and Angel 61-0... Matt was 50 something a 0 going into state his junior year as well.. With today's rules coach Peckinpaugh wouldn't have been able to break the national record for Dual meet wins by a coach with him running a staggering 1003 dual meets in his career with a pair of State runner up team finishes among countless other accolades.. There isn't hardly a dozen schools with 1000 wins in their school history let alone 1 coach... I know all those guys from New Castle are proud of being top 10 career wins in state history, but they would much rather have a state title and team state titles... That was the longest answer ever, Ruth this being a very loaded question, I rambled a answer lol Edited March 11, 2022 by FCFIGHTER170 blueandgold and NavyGonzo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyGonzo Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I was always envious of those 2-day tournaments. At Delta (2001 - 2004), I think we only had four, six team dual meets @ 5 matches per. The rest of our matches consisted of single dual meets, county, and conference... I think the most matches we ever had going into sectional was 31, which seems to be about the state average. blueandgold and FCFIGHTER170 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 At MD in 95 I got beat in the first round of semistate and had about 30 matches. We got snowed out for Indiana's best and I missed a few matches early so if a guy went to state and won 1st round I'd say he'd have about 40 matches in. We did a lot of tripple and quad duals and a couple tournaments. blueandgold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 18 points 1 point for a single dual 2 points for any event with 3+ teams You could basically do 9 events with 5 matches each to get 45 matches. Sectional would add 3, regional would add 3, semi-state(if regional champ) 3, then state 4. That is 58 matches. Lastly you could add in team regional 2 matches, team semi-state 1 match, and then team state with up to 3 matches. So if they went to team state that's 62. That doesn't even include the potential 10 way super dual that would add 5 matches to the total. I like to refer to this era as the juiced match era as we won't see these types of numbers again with the current rules in place. blueandgold and FCFIGHTER170 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 it's always interesting when you talk to a few move in wrestler/parents/coaches from certain states where you can still have huge match totals in a season. They are a little perplexed how 30 something matches is enough for some teams before the state tournament series starts. MUSKEEWRESTLER and blueandgold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Ahawkeye said: At MD in 95 I got beat in the first round of semistate and had about 30 matches. We got snowed out for Indiana's best and I missed a few matches early so if a guy went to state and won 1st round I'd say he'd have about 40 matches in. We did a lot of tripple and quad duals and a couple tournaments. At MD in '91 I finished with 27 matches (got beat in regional after breaking my hand in the sectional semis). in '92 I finished with 39 matches, wrestling on Saturday at state. And we wrestled every weekend from the first of December through State. Throw in a mid-week dual in the SIAC and that was plenty of matches. Couldn't imagine wrestling 60 matches in a season. Tough to find that many quality matches, so there may have been some stat padding back when guys were getting 50-60 matches in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, ReformedPoster said: At MD in '91 I finished with 27 matches (got beat in regional after breaking my hand in the sectional semis). in '92 I finished with 39 matches, wrestling on Saturday at state. And we wrestled every weekend from the first of December through State. Throw in a mid-week dual in the SIAC and that was plenty of matches. Couldn't imagine wrestling 60 matches in a season. Tough to find that many quality matches, so there may have been some stat padding back when guys were getting 50-60 matches in a year. I agree completely, with that many matches it would be difficult to get quality opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Showing my age … When I wrestled we were allowed 12 dual meets plus 2 Saturday tournaments (county and conference in our case). That was just a bit before the advent of multi-team duals. My cousin wrestled just a few years before me and I think he had 10 duals and no tournaments before sectionals. My how things have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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