purdue02 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 What is the worst draw in ticket round history? Where you had 2 top 3ish guys and a legitimate top 3 guy went home. Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, purdue02 said: What is the worst draw in ticket round history? Where you had 2 top 3ish guys and a legitimate top 3 guy went home. Camden Eppert vs Jimmy Schoettle back in 08 always comes to mind for me. ShawSki, Jayruss, No One Famous and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkraus Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Sawyer Miller vs Knapp Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Morgan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Rankings may be a little off #2 Brice Coleman WC vs #1 Elliott Rodgers Cathedral Brice beat #3 Cooper Noehre at sectionals, lost at Regionals and drew Elliott. Cooper might have been 2 and Brice 3. Either way. Jayruss and No One Famous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) The prior years State Champ vs. the prior years State Runner-Up (3x qualifier at that point). State champ was undefeated until regionals where he was upset in the finals by someone he has beaten several times prior. This created this epic ticket round battle of 1 vs. 2. The Runner-up may have been undefeated going into the ticket round clash. Runner-Up loses and goes home his Senior year empty handed and missed out on being a 4 time qualifier. State champ goes on to somewhat seamlessly run through the state competition on his way to repeating as champ. Including beating the regional wrestle he was upset by in the semi-state finals and state finals match. I was fortunate enough to be right at matside for this one. Just going to leave the names out because at this point in the matches legacy it won’t take long for someone to point out who they are. This one is always the go to poster-child response for those calling for wrestlebacks at semi-state. Edited February 9, 2022 by MattM TripleB, MUSKEEWRESTLER, MitchRobb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, mikemorgan said: Rankings may be a little off #2 Brice Coleman WC vs #1 Elliott Rodgers Cathedral Brice beat #3 Cooper Noehre at sectionals, lost at Regionals and drew Elliott. Cooper might have been 2 and Brice 3. Either way. Brice was #4 that year, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) #2 Wes Bernard vs. #3 Georgio Blades in 2013 Edited February 9, 2022 by blueandgold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Ben Dalton vs. Gavinn Alstott in 2020 No One Famous, Rugger44, Steven Sandefer and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Jankowski Vs. Rossbottom (sp?) Much debate over this match. Jayruss, TripleB, boilergrappler and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Kendrick Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I think there are really only 2 answers to this question- they may have happened the same year. Dan Jankowski-Robert Rosbottom Andrew Bradbury-Josh Birge. boilergrappler, oldfat119, EliteAthleticClub and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, nkraus said: Sawyer Miller vs Knapp Rematch of the state 3rd place match the year prior. And just the year before that, same weight, was Schuyler Phillips vs. Forrest Glogouski. Returning runner-up vs. returning 6th placer, I’m pretty sure both ranked top 3 at the time. Phillips was upset at regionals and gave Forrest his only loss of the season in the ticket round. Forrest came back the next year and was the runner-up to Chad Red. Edited February 9, 2022 by Caleb Spires Jstephenson1356, No One Famous and MUSKEEWRESTLER 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, blueandgold said: #2 Wes Bernard vs. #3 Georgio Blades in 2013 And wasn’t that match set up because one of them had lost to the #1 ranked wrestler at regionals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, Caleb Spires said: And wasn’t that match set up because one of them had lost to the #1 ranked wrestler at regionals? Yes. Georgio lost to Donte Winfield 10-3 in the Regional final that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paycheck141 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Jacob Covaciu vs Jake Fuqua in 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easytofind Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Rooks vs Garcia 2016 dawsdad, Coach Nieman, ShawSki and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Brobst Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 In 2020, at 120, Jacob Simone of HSE was ranked #4 or 5 (I don't recall exactly) and drew #1 Zeke Seltzer (Who won state) in the ticket round after having lost by 2 to #2 and eventual runner up Carson Eldred from Westfield at Regionals. I believe that Diaz from Wheeler took 3rd that year and he and Simone had split that offseason in two tight matches. Obviously no way to predict what he would have placed, but worst draw I've ever had dealt to a wrestler in my program for sure. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Some ECCSS matches that I remember...not too long ago. Colza vs Lemley Triana vs Cummings Bates vs LaPlace Haskins vs Tolin Moreno vs Rodriguez indianmorg and CoachDC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) As you can see by the numerous examples being given here, this pretty much happens yearly at one of the Semi-States. All it takes if for (2) of the top guys in the state to be at the same regional. One of them has to lose & if they draw into one of the other regionals that has a top guy then unfortunately someone who is capable of placing doesn't even get to go to State. Edited February 9, 2022 by SIACfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 02/03 James from Pike vs Thompson from franklin county 2 years in a row. Thompson entered both match unbeaten on the season. James went on to be runner up at semi-state in 02 and Semi-state champ in 03. Pretty tough draw there. Also 2018 Parris and Guhl, At least worse draw for Guhl. This was a rematch of the Semi-state Championship match from the year before. Any other Draw he has a shot at making it and maybe even placing. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awill0352 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I’m new to HS wrestling, but why don’t they do wrestle backs starting from the ticket/blood round? Wouldn’t this prevent these issues? formercollegekid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TysonNisley Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, awill0352 said: I’m new to HS wrestling, but why don’t they do wrestle backs starting from the ticket/blood round? Wouldn’t this prevent these issues? haha we wish. no wrestle backs until you make it past the ticket round. formercollegekid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, awill0352 said: I’m new to HS wrestling, but why don’t they do wrestle backs starting from the ticket/blood round? Wouldn’t this prevent these issues? you would think so, im not sure why its never been implemented, but its very talked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, awill0352 said: I’m new to HS wrestling, but why don’t they do wrestle backs starting from the ticket/blood round? Wouldn’t this prevent these issues? The IHSAA pretty much said they don’t have it for any other sport, so it’s not necessary for wrestling. Although I’d point out that in several other individual sports cross-country, track, golf, swimming, gymnastics there is a pretty clear cut advancement group due to those athletes topping the entire field of competition. Where as for wrestling at the semi-state and state level you get put into a group based on a random formula then only compete against one individual at a time. Thus you could be eliminated without having to prove where you would stack up against more of the field of competitors that happened to placed in a different section of that bracket. Edited February 9, 2022 by MattM formercollegekid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, MattM said: The IHSAA pretty much said they don’t have it for any other sport, so it’s not necessary for wrestling. Although I’d point out that in several other individual sports cross-country, track, golf, swimming there is a pretty clear cut advancement due to those advancing topping the entire field. Where as for wrestling you are only competing against one individual at a time and could be eliminated without having to prove themselves against more of the field of athletes. IHSAA should really pay attention to the wrestling state series then. Its clear every year that wrestle backs need in. Too many kids miss out due to drawing number 1s and there isnt much you can do about it, even winning the regional doesnt give you a sealed chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TysonNisley Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, The guy said: IHSAA should really pay attention to the wrestling state series then. Its clear every year that wrestle backs need in. Too many kids miss out due to drawing number 1s and there isnt much you can do about it, even winning the regional doesnt give you a sealed chance. I always find it funny when a kid pulls an upset at a sectional or regional and gets punished for it. I remember my senior year, Ty Haskins had upset Malik Hall at regionals, and Malik Hall got an easy draw while Haskins pulled Bettich in the ticket round. Even this year, Kaptur Nowaczyk beat Johnny Cortez for the first time this year at sectionals, and now Kaptur has to wrestle the #10 in the state while Cortez gets a much easier road to state. formercollegekid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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