TeamGarcia Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TeamGarcia said: Yup, with holes in their lineup to “develop” wrestlers. Top 3 have zero time to develop wrestlers . They expect their National Recruits Wrestlers to fill the void ASAP. Most step right in and fill in nicely . I think this is difference between the Tiers of the Elite to the Bottom of the B1G Wrestling Conference. Edited January 13, 2022 by TeamGarcia Picture edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 20 hours ago, TeamGarcia said: Yup, with holes in their lineup to “develop” wrestlers. Top 3 have zero time to develop wrestlers . They expect their National Recruits Wrestlers to fill the void ASAP. Most step right in and fill in nicely . While mostly true, it's not 100%. During the Iowa/Purdue dual, I believe Gibbons said that Drake Ayala is only the 2nd true freshman to start at Iowa under Tom Brands, Spencer Lee being the first. And Ayala obviously wouldn't be in the line up if Lee were there. Bo Nickal, vincenzo joseph and Jason Nolf redshirted their true freshman seasons at Penn St. Nick Lee essentially took a redshirt when he arrived at Penn St his sr year of HS. Sasso and Karchala took a redshirt at Ohio st. So the top 3 are taking time to develop their guys, even if it is only during a reshirt year. Some guys are ready right out of the gate (Spencer Lee, Kyle Snyder, Gable) others aren't and either need a year in the room or they get redshirted to get the strongest possible line up going for the maximum amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 10:28 AM, Disco said: And these matches will only tell the tale if all the starters show. Not likely. The Ohio st. Coach is especially good at ing wrestlers. OSU wrestled all their starters & Michigan dominated them (29-8) with one of their starters (165 Cameron Amine) not wrestling. I think it is safe to say that the match was pretty telling. It will now be interesting to see how they stack up with PSU next Friday. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 Yes the wolves have a lot of fire power. Ryan’s team is a little down from previous year but they seem to Aways be in the hunt at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 7:48 AM, ReformedPoster said: While mostly true, it's not 100%. During the Iowa/Purdue dual, I believe Gibbons said that Drake Ayala is only the 2nd true freshman to start at Iowa under Tom Brands, Spencer Lee being the first. And Ayala obviously wouldn't be in the line up if Lee were there. Bo Nickal, vincenzo joseph and Jason Nolf redshirted their true freshman seasons at Penn St. Nick Lee essentially took a redshirt when he arrived at Penn St his sr year of HS. Sasso and Karchala took a redshirt at Ohio st. So the top 3 are taking time to develop their guys, even if it is only during a reshirt year. Some guys are ready right out of the gate (Spencer Lee, Kyle Snyder, Gable) others aren't and either need a year in the room or they get redshirted to get the strongest possible line up going for the maximum amount of time. I believe the reference was that these guys are ready as soon as they hit the lineup. They aren't developing for a couple of years as starters. Maybe I misinterpreted it, but that's how I did. That allows for redshirts. The depth means there aren't holes in the lineup until they're ready. That said, Penn St. has been able to remain there with a hole or two in the lineup, mainly 125 (until last week) and 157/165 this year. Sadly, Joe Lee, thought to be able to step right in has struggled to do so. 3xStateChamp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3xStateChamp Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, SWINfan said: I believe the reference was that these guys are ready as soon as they hit the lineup. They aren't developing for a couple of years as starters. Maybe I misinterpreted it, but that's how I did. That allows for redshirts. The depth means there aren't holes in the lineup until they're ready. That said, Penn St. has been able to remain there with a hole or two in the lineup, mainly 125 (until last week) and 157/165 this year. Sadly, Joe Lee, thought to be able to step right in has struggled to do so. Wooooooooo…. Bang ! Bang ! Bang ! Pistol Agrees wit this hur . Oklahoma State, John Smith ain’t waitin, dis Freshman comin N grappin the bull by it’s horns ! Pistol tells John Smith Get da fire ready an burn dem redshirts . Wooooooo….. Bang ! Bang ! Bang ! Pistol Pete Edited January 18, 2022 by 3xStateChamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 For the life of me, how can indiana not have hammers at all the lower weights? Especially 125! Tsirtis and Angel ,two of the most popular and successful lightweight wrestlers ,from the state coaching. MUSKEEWRESTLER and MrsTeamGarcia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 The Hoosiers are going to have alumni day this Sunday vs Chattanooga to finish the regular season home stand. Two years ago, pre shutdown, they started this and had quite the showing of past team members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Disco said: The Hoosiers are going to have alumni day this Sunday vs Chattanooga to finish the regular season home stand. Two years ago, pre shutdown, they started this and had quite the showing of past team members. Hopefully, Cottey and Boarman can get one of the extra matches. Who wouldn't want to see a potential Freeman vs Boarman match? SWINfan, Disco and MUSKEEWRESTLER 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/16/2022 at 8:11 AM, ReformedPoster said: Hopefully, Cottey and Boarman can get one of the extra matches. Who wouldn't want to see a potential Freeman vs Boarman match? Boarman hasn't seen the mat much this year. He had 2 matches in Nov listed as a MF and FF. He didn't wrestle again until Jan 29 where lost twice at the Appalachian Open. Then he came back last weekend at the Newberry Open and lost his first match 12-11, then won by fall and MFF his last match. So don't know if he just bowed out of the tourney or if there was an injury? Cottey lost by Tech Fall twice at the Southern Scuffle and then did not wrestle again until the Newberry Open last weekend. He won 3 matches, all by fall. Much of the competition there was against smaller schools so not sure what we can glean from that. Alec Freeman has been wrestling at 149 since Dec. so not likely to see a matchup with Boarman. ReformedPoster and Disco 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 It was good news to see Washington in the lineup for the match. But a lot of close matches that could of gone the way of the Hoosiers. They are still fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Big Ten pre seeds are out. For the Hoosiers Hudkins and Washington look good for getting an automatic NCAA bid. Bullock at Hwt. G. Rooks at 49 and maybe Wilhelm at 97 ,have an outside chance to get an invite. Or wrestle above their pre seeds and wrestle in. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Big Ten pre seeds are out. For the Hoosiers Hudkins and Washington look good for getting an automatic NCAA bid. Bullock at Hwt. G. Rooks at 49 and maybe Wilhelm at 97 ,have an outside chance to get an invite. Or wrestle above their pre seeds and wrestle in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 As a comparison. purdue 25 Schroeder 33 Ramos 57 Coleman 65 Lohrey 74 Nijenhuis 97 Penola Should all get in the big dance. Lyon at 84 with a chance to get invited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 pts in Big Ten Championships Jayruss, MUSKEEWRESTLER and Disco 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, PhillyFanMD said: 4 pts in Big Ten Championships Not a good look for any recruit. It is getting to be a catch-22 with the program. MUSKEEWRESTLER, MrsTeamGarcia, Easytofind and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 The NCAA card’s for Indiana fell pretty much according to seed placement. Hudkins and Washington. Hope they have success in Detroit. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Disco said: The NCAA card’s for Indiana fell pretty much according to seed placement. Hudkins and Washington. Hope they have success in Detroit. Washington could make some noise if he's healthy. He just looked FAR from healthy last weekend. Not sure what kind of success Hudkins could have. Will have a little better idea tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 I don’t se Hudkins getting past 2nd round. He would have to beat myers from Virginia Tech. So getting into wrestle backs ,he has a good chance to win his first 2 matches. Then it gets a little blurry. 33 is a meat grinder this year. Easytofind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 Now Washington got hosed, from that knee injury from Lyon. He faces Romero from Ohio state first match. Healthy, he can stay with Romero. Second match he would likely face Venz. From Nebraska. Don’t see him getting out of there with a victory. That’s what happens when you are seeded 26 or so, you have to fight thru your conference foes ,who you’ve seen several times, to get to some out of conference meat. Going from 8th at one time to limping into the NCAA is a travesty. MUSKEEWRESTLER and Easytofind 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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